Can you survive Marriage?

Sometimes I think I’m just not cut out to be a married person. Some things like being close to my family even if i’m a woman and if I get married to someone who hates my family or doesn’t like any holiday time or any time at all with my family or when someone is constantly disrespectful and treats me like crap or is verbally abusive, those things after a while, I won’t be able to take and I would want out of the relationship or if the person I’m with after marriage ends up being gay and so there isn’t a sex life that exists and that should exist in a marriage…

these issues actually came up with men that were potentials though. These were educated desi men

how much is your tolerance level for major issues before you fall through the cracks and you would want out of the institution of Marriage?

..there are also other realistic possibilities of the dude getting multiple wives, becoming a terrorist, or being an alien from another galaxy shape shifting to look like a human but actually being an alien insect.

I think you are making the right call, it's just too risky and you never know what is waiting around the corner.

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one potential said that all straight men after marriage will look for physical love elsewhere even if they have a successful sex life within the marriage............I can't handle a marriage like that

there was another one with whom It was almost finalized with, engaged and almost vowing to be together forever but he kept asking for money back for stuff I spent money on using his credit card and he would get angry and take away the credit card if I didn't give him money back on a timely fashion. I can't handle a life partner who would do that

the situations in the first post are ones i actually saw in men that were potentials though. These were educated desi men

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^ LOL! (@ x2)

OP: Almost everything you do in life involves taking a risk of some sort. So you work out your risk to benefit ratio, throw in some common sense and make a decision based on that. :D

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hahaha!

GG - who told you all this?

no wonder more marriages fail these days!

pre-conceived notions like these, serve as poison for marriage, most of us (especially women folk) happily take.

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these aren't preconceived notions. Actual situations i've been in with the ones that I met on the Marriage sites or ones that friends of the family introduced me to. Either I just have really bad luck in men that come my way or I'm just someone that has a low tolerance level.

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I get that everything in life involves some sort of risk and i'm willing to take it but I've searched long and hard, gone to several youth conventions, marriage sites, had friends of the family introduce me to potentials but I've just had the worst luck it seems. One potential wanted to get married within a few days of meeting b/c he was on H-1 visa and was in desperate need of a greencard, he even told this to my parents. Either men aren't how they were before with those solid values and morals of the yester years or I am someone who has bad luck that is not marriage material

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err can u say sleezeball..some men just think they have a god given right to prance arnd like wild sexual beings. not all men are like that..the right one will commit to you iA...yeah there is such a thing as libido...but cheaters/promiscuous ppl shouldnt justify themselves by saying "every man is like that"...just cuz one man is a murderer does not mean all men are...yes all men are capable of committing murder but not all men will...

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Ur friendship with PCG will go a long way :)

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I am also afraid :(

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Globalgal: If you don't mind me asking....how old are you? Surely you must know people close to you who're married....your parents, cousins, close friends, siblings? Don't you know women who're married to wonderful husbands which gives you hope that good men exist?

Just like anything else in life, marriage is a risk. If there are red flags that come up in the beginning, drop the guy and look for someone else that's compatible. Some people are lucky enough to find someone without much effort....and for others, it can take years. Clearly you haven't come across anyone you're compatible with, and if you're so afraid of making that commitment.......this also means you're not ready for marriage.

As far as the a guy cheating on you after marriage, turning out gay, being abusive etc......there is no guarantee that those things won't happen. That's why the option of divorce exists. Divorce isn't the end of the world. Different people have different expectations out of their marriage and different levels of tolerance when it comes to what they'll put up with.

Realistically, you only have 2 choices:

1) Stay un-married the rest of your life.
2) Find a man who has the same values/goals as you and seems compatible, marry him, and do your best to make it a successful marriage by making compromises that you're ok with. Meanwhile always continue to be financially independent so if he turns out to be gay, abusive, cheater, terrorist, murderer, rapist, transvestite, an alien...whatever.....you're not forced to stay in that situation and can get a divorce.

P.S. I know several non-desis and 3 desi people who chose never to get married (men AND women in their 50's/60's). I'm a firm believer that not everyone is cut out for marriage. So again, if you yourself truly believe that marriage isn't for you....then you certainly wouldn't be the only one.

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You keep saying that these were "educated" potentials....As if to imply that this trait alone should make them more moral, responsible, faithful, etc. Compatibility/character isn't solely based upon education.

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Can we please stop making her feel like she’s the culprit here, that she’s being selfish, or picky or ungrateful?

No one here would let their daughter 20 feet near the guys she just described. So the advice of well, take a chance, get married, and you can always get divorced later…PLEASE. Those of you giving that advice, are married to nice successful people, to people you had SECURITY knowing you wouldn’t divorce later, so why give another girl any different advice? You get to marry someone nice, but then sit here and give advice to girls on GS that we’re being ungrateful and should take these sort of offers?

Please be ashamed of yourselves and your armchair advice.

Global lady: To answer your question, no it’s not ok to marry any of the guys you described. They all have one thing in common. They have no character.

I have learned one thing, the hard way. Character does not correlate with education. How good you make yourself look on CV and how charming you can be on an interview correlates with education.

:slight_smile:

So, having said that. I have found one thing: You cannot go by education status anymore. If you sit there looking for guys educated beyond a bachelors, then you will miss out on great guys.

My dad has a bachelors degree, and as he came over from Pakistan and was hard working, he missed out on a graduate level of education, otherwise he would have done law. He was too stressed with the pressure his parents were putting on him so he failed his CPA exam, which is something he had the courage to admit to me after all these years when I failed sorely at something in my life.

And he’s the best guy I know - and I don’t say that as his daughter, I say that objectively. He has good morals, he’s normal, he’s moderate, and he takes very good care of his family, and he cleans up well for my mom even at the age of 62, and even now takes her out on dates. He went to a local university in the States for his bachelors degree. He did not get any major degrees, he isn’t a doctor, and not only does he have an office job but he runs stores also - **something girls like us would wrinkle our nose at.

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Having said that…look for CHARACTER.

That means you might have to change WHERE you look.

-volunteer a lot for desi/pakistani/muslim causes - you’ll find people there that are somewhat more good hearted because if you’re a man in his 20’s / 30’s who volunteers for our community, then chances are you aren’t so superficial…

-keep looking on websites, but try to keep a keen look on their personality - skype early I have learned, and discuss these types of issues with them early on. I always ask about sex and their experience with it, makes you learn a lot about their character - i.e. the idiots will jump on you and want to have sex online, OR they’ll tell you they aren’t virgins and have no problem with it → another red flag, etc.

-do these community meetup’s and social group events - you’ll meet people there

-volunteer / participate in your masjid. Awful at times I know, cuz you’ll get all the taxi drivers, but you will find sincere people there too that aren’t newbie immigrants with not even a high school edu.

and most of all

-consider guys from other communities.

-professional desi meet-ups - the kind you get together and have a board game night or something. Douchebags don’t like that kind of thing.

Our community is very corrupt. Look at how Pakistan is running. Look at how people behave in the states and look how show-baaz everyone is. No one values simplicity, no one values charity, no one values their community, and very few guys participate in it. Dawats are to invade the buffet line and then leave with your buddies to go raid the clubs. Dawats and shaadis are places where you go show off the latest HSY jora you got not to make new connections with people in your community. Dawats and shaadis are places to show off your wealth and your “education”.

So why would you think these “educated” and “wealthy” people would be where you find a good man? These are not good people, these are corrupt people. So stop looking at these venues.

There are WAY more nice desi girls in our community , and the guys are completely out of control. The few that are good, get married very early, and so the smart girls were those who looked very early and found their spouses early like in high school and college. Those of us who kept going for higher studies and put marriage off - many of us are having trouble finding spouses.

I’m here for ya. PM me if you ever want to vent, I’m going through EXACTLY all of this, and so are many girls out there. It’s cuz we have raised our daughters well, and we let the guys run around, kyun ke aakhir “they’re larkay naa”.

:rolleyes:

I swear I hope I have like 5 sons, and I’m gonna beat them into shape as they grow up, so I can GIVE THE DESI WORLD CHARITY BY PROVIDING 5 NORMAL MEN.

:mad:

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You are right that you are not cut out to be married so don't get married end of problem.

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You sound a bit like me, I certainly do agree marriage isn't a one size fits all solution. Not everyone has to be married, hence why it's not farz.

There's a million and one things that COULD happen, worse yet these things that COULD happen will be out of your control at the time.
I see it as the following way, you get married to someone and your quality of life MAY improve or it MAY degrade. These will be influenced by decisions you have no control of.

Another thing is, people change. What's to say the person you marry today will be the same person in 5/10/20 years time?

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People change for the better and people change for the worse. It is a gamble.

But the examples you have given - a guy making an issue out of each time you purchase something using his credit card and you have to pay him back? How is that Islamic? Is that how you treat your wife?

Or telling her that you may possibly cheat on her later, and that's perfectly natural?

Who does that crap???

Sounds to me like YOU are cut out for marriage, but THESE GUYS are not.

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No one said that OP is being selfish or ungrateful. No one said that she should've gone ahead with any of the guys she mentioned she rejected. She needs to find someone who she feels compatible with...which is something that clearly has not happened so far.

Oh and btw.....ANYONE who believes that they will NEVER get divorced is a fool. No one can predict the future. Yes I married a man who's nice, successful, comes from a good family, who I feel compatible with blah blah blah. But I would be an idiot if I believe that there is 0 chance of us getting divorced. I have no way to guarantee that my husband is not going to cheat on me someday or turn out to be rapist or murderer or whatever. So far he hasn't turned out to be gay but that doesn't mean that 20 years from now, one day that won't happen. Maybe women you know can somehow predict the future but I can't. Which is exactly why I CHOOSE to stay financially independent so if for whatever reason if I feel divorce is the best option for me in the future, I can get it done without worrying where I'll get $$ to survive. I am not giving OP any advice that I wouldn't follow myself.

Look around at threads on Life1 or even the blogs. All the people that post about their marital issues.....I'm pretty sure none of them thought these things would happen when they chose their partner. Almost everyone gets married thinking that they will experience a happy marriage. They fool themselves into thinking that life will be just fine and don't prepare themselves for the worse case scenario. OP is afraid that her marriage might go sour and I'm telling her that yes, there is a possibility that might happen. No matter how nice, successful, good background etc. etc. etc. the guys has.....NO ONE can guarantee OP that she will have a happy marriage.

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While I understand your perspective on it, marrying early doesn't exactly mean a recipe for successful and happy life..you're going in 2 extremes here. You think those girls that got married young in HS/college, are any less unhappy than those who waited? It's just a different set of problems, that's all.

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When the time is right or you find someone suitable then marriage will just happened. However marriage is like a game, and if you are not prepared to play and lose then you cannot win.

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@OP

I hope you are not looking for perfection, a faithful husband may not be financially stable or a financially stable, faithful one may be an ultra conservative (for intimacy) etc. Find out your priorities (the less the better) and use them to filter potential guys but remember your every wish is not likely to be fulfilled.