Can You Marry Your Adopted SOn's Wife in Islam?

Andhra · March 20, 2002, 12:58pm

Can You Marry Your Adopted SOn’s Wife in Islam?
I mean if she wants you to!!
Is it allowed?

kumarakn · March 20, 2002, 12:59pm

Genetically, it shouldn't matter, but God (and His messengers) know best!

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Akif · March 20, 2002, 1:03pm

Yes Andhra bhai. Yes you can. Yes the Prophet SAW did so. Yes you continue to be petty.

Andhra · March 20, 2002, 1:25pm

Yes Andhra bhai. Yes you can. Yes the Prophet SAW did so. Yes you continue to be petty.<<

Akif, man my methods are getting obvious on this forum.

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Well, as a Muslim do you find it acceptable?

By the Way don’t call ME petty. I am not the one who married my ex daughter-in-law!!!

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armughal · March 20, 2002, 2:36pm

Quran 33:4-5
4) Allah has not made for any man two hearts in his (one) body: nor has He made your wives whom ye divorce by Zihar your mothers: nor has He made your adopted sons your sons. Such is (only) your (manner of) speech by your mouths. But Allah tells (you) the Truth and He shows the (right) Way.
5) Call them (the adopted children) by (the names) of their fathers: that is juster in the sight of Allah but if ye know not their father's (names call them) your Brothers in faith or your Maulas. But there is no blame on you if ye make a mistake therein: (what counts is) the intention of your hearts: and Allah is Oft-Returning Most Merciful.

yes marrying the women divorced or widowed by your adopted children is allowed....
and the reason as obvious in the above verses is THEY R NOT REALLY UR CHILDREN BUT JUST SO-CALLED children....

like if u wud call (as common in india and pakistan) ur cousin as ur sister and then later u get married, it doesnt mean u have married ur sister....

marrying an ex-dauther-in-law is NOT ALLOWED in Islam....

"Our Lord! forgive us our sins and anything we may have done that transgressed our duty; establish our feet firmly and help us against those that resist faith." **Quran(3:147)

Andhra · March 20, 2002, 2:46pm

armughal you said

“marrying an ex-dauther-in-law is NOT ALLOWED in Islam…”

But Akif here is saying..

“Yes Andhra bhai. Yes you can. Yes the Prophet SAW did so. Yes you continue to be petty.”

since both of you are Muslims, please decide among yourselves and tell me.
Me, I am just a curious Brahmin!!

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Edcuate me!!!

By the way armughal for your information, Prophet Mohammed did marry his daughter-in-law after his adopted son divorced her.

Here is what your Koran has to say about this.

‘The Confederate Tribes’ 33:36 - 33:40
“And when Zeid divorced his wife, We gave her to you in marriage, so that it should become legitimate for Trur believers to wed the wives of their adopted sons if they divorced them”

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This my dear armughal is YOUR religion.
When you pass comments about my intentions next time, please remember one thing. I DID NOT invent any of this!!

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ahmadjee · March 20, 2002, 2:49pm

Andhra, if I give you the reasoning, would you accept my word for it?!

Just wanted to clarify that before I waste some of my time.

aishaA · March 20, 2002, 2:51pm

sheesh!

Read the full post. When armughal said, "marrying an ex-dauther-in-law is NOT ALLOWED in Islam...." he means the wife of your adpoted son is not your daughter-in-law.

And why do you ask questions of which you know the answers? It is not like you are asking questions to learn about Islam.

moona · March 20, 2002, 2:52pm

Andhra, u seem so bitter about Islam, the religion of peace and love, the religion of Propher Muhammad PBUH. Why are you so mistrusting? Better to leave the forum than
pick out quirks in our religion. Hinduism from what I know of it, is very demeaning and caste-conscious religion...it's very old-fashioned and may fit the uneducated masses who still to this day, year 2002, practice it by worshiping idols, worshiping money and cows, and treating women like **** for heaven's sake!!! Now you tell me, where in the world is the logic in THAT?

Andhra · March 20, 2002, 2:57pm

Ahmedjee,
Assalam Alaikum

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Let me oblige you with a few more winkies

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You said

Andhra, if I give you the reasoning, would you accept my word for it?!
Just wanted to clarify that before I waste some of my time.<<

I will accept ANY reason EXCEPT LUST for marrying your adopted son’s divorced wife.

I am willing to have an open mind in this regard.
Especially considering that you are an Ahmadi !! . I like minority Muaslim sctes

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moona, don’t drag Hinduism into this. You are welcome to glorify or trash Hinduism as much as you like. We don’t believe ion Fatwas!!

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Akif · March 20, 2002, 3:00pm

[quote]
Originally posted by Andhra:
**armughal you said

"marrying an ex-dauther-in-law is NOT ALLOWED in Islam...."

But Akif here is saying..

"Yes Andhra bhai. Yes you can. Yes the Prophet SAW did so. Yes you continue to be petty."
**
[/quote]

Do you see the difference between son and adopted son?
Consequently, do you see the difference between wife of son and wife of adopted son?

armughal · March 20, 2002, 3:06pm

Muhammad(pbuh) had NO SON…
all his sons died as infants…
dont u even read history ???

i thought u had some knowledge but u proved to be a complete idiot

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“Our Lord! forgive us our sins and anything we may have done that transgressed our duty; establish our feet firmly and help us against those that resist faith.” Quran(3:147)

aishaA · March 20, 2002, 3:06pm

[quote]
Originally posted by Andhra:
*I will accept ANY reason EXCEPT LUST for marrying your adopted son's divorced wife.
*
[/quote]

You have made up your mind. Nothing is going to convince you otherwise.

BTW, you did not answer me. Why do you ask questions of which you know the answers? It is not like you are asking questions to learn about Islam.

Andhra · March 20, 2002, 3:17pm

Muhammad(pbuh) had NO SON…
all his sons died as infants…
dont u even read history ???<<

armughal I do read history. It seems to be you can’t even read the posts in a thread you are participating in.!!

I asked is it OK to marry the ex-wife of an ‘Adopted’ Son!!

I know Mohammed had no male issue.

Akif, what’s the big deal between son and adopted son? If you are not willing to treat somebody as son, why adopt him as a son?
Did Mohammed adopt this guy without any intention of treating him as a son?

aishAA

You have made up your mind. Nothing is going to convince you otherwise. <<

No I have not. I just said LUST is not an acceptable motive for marrying your adopted son’s divorced wife, who in all cultures is looked upon as a daughter of the house.

BTW, you did not answer me. Why do you ask questions of which you know the answers? It is not like you are asking questions to learn about Islam.<<

I ask questions because

1.I want to know the answers.
2.It amuses me to people doing all kinds of somersaults trying to defend the indefensible and trying to drag Hinduism into discussing Islam at some point.

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Since you asked that question, go through all my threads and see how many straight answers to the point I get!!

system · March 20, 2002, 3:20pm

Andra, u need to chill out and stop dissin Islam!
Why dont you try questioning ur own religion for once, godknows that there are many questions hindus need to ask themselves!

armughal · March 20, 2002, 3:27pm

Islam does not accept any relations uttered by your tongue…
call someone ur mother, father, son, daugther, uncle, aunt, anything u like, he/she will remain to u what he/she is in fact…

i love to see u tryong to twist things and putting in stupid comments trying to somehow find something wrong in Islam…
and when u cant do anything else, just

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and still have no shame and stay here proving that u still dont have a good brain…
go and play with toys boy, u r not up to the job of even trying to such a thing…
and hey if u cant figure out how to put a jigsaw puzzle together, always remember to put it on a side and

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“Our Lord! forgive us our sins and anything we may have done that transgressed our duty; establish our feet firmly and help us against those that resist faith.” Quran(3:147)

Andhra · March 20, 2002, 3:30pm

PAKIO PRINCESS,
I am not trying to Diss Islam as you call it.
Just asking questions.
I am a Brahmin you see, and we regard knowledge as Divine.
We like to Know.
SO I am just curious!!

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Marrying the divorced wife of your adopted son is a questionable thing to do whatver be the religion and time period in Human History and whichever society.

Why can’t people come right out and face facts? Does the Truth Hurt?

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NYAhmadiX · March 20, 2002, 3:33pm

Andhra, Woody Alan married his adopted daughter. So what’s such a big deal? Marrying someone not related to you by birth (as in father-daughter, mother son, first uncles/aunts, grandparents, etc.) is allowed in Islam. It does not mean that everyone ends up marrying their sons’ ex wives. I am sure there are similar provisions in other religions.

Akif · March 20, 2002, 3:37pm

[quote]
Originally posted by Andhra:
*Akif, what's the big deal between son and adopted son? If you are not willing to treat somebody as son, why adopt him as a son?
Did Mohammed adopt this guy without any intention of treating him as a son?
*
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The difference between a son and an adopted son is the same as that between you and intelligent life.

An adopted son is not your flesh and blood. Yes, you can be nice to someone, yes, you can raise them and provide for them, yes you can give them as much love as you would give to your own flesh and blood, but all that will not make that person your biological son. And hence, since hes not biologically related to you, his wife will not be your daughter in law.

Next time, just put a whining icon on the top. That serves as a universal topic for all your threads.

system · March 20, 2002, 3:38pm

What facts Andra? What rubbish r u comin out with now huh? Just because YOU say something about Islam, it does not mean that it is a fact, okay?!!
If there is anyone that needs to face facts its the hindus. You just cannot except the fact that you are worshipping nothing but mere stones- which r made into statues by humans!