can urdu be our national language?

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we pakistanis have lost our one wing just due to the a language urdu.
which is a mixture of punjabi persian and english etc
will we be ever able to make it national language practiacally?
i think it is not possible

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Re: can urdu be our national language?

I'm not sure that one wing lost, just because of the language. But i don't think Urdu should be the national language of Pakistan, since Urdu is the language of a small minority and not viable option looking at cultural variations of peoples of Pakistan.

The major regional languages(Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashto and Balochi) should be given the status of national languages, because those are the languages which truly represent the people who live in this country.

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Re: can urdu be our national language?

I have given up on us Pakistanis to ever be united on any issue. Why should this be any different?

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Re: can urdu be our national language?

^ Dont sweat it, theres more to just language thats binding us. Other countries are united and have more than just a single national langauge too.

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Re: can urdu be our national language?

urdu already is.

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Re: can urdu be our national language?

so do u want to replace it with punjabi or sindhi now?

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Re: can urdu be our national language?

sindi or pashto so indans can't understand it, and we make fun of them,.

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actually that was a general statement.

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Re: can urdu be our national language?

GulsitaN ko Lahoo ki zarooRat pari
sab se phelay hi gardan humari kaaTii
phir bi kehtay hain muj se yea ahl-e-chaman
yea chaman hai humaRa TumaRa nahii

Ninja ki Shadi
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Tang Kamray, Ghar bhee chotay kia hawa tazaa lagay
Ham chalain jitna bhee jhuk kay sar ko darwaza lagay

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Urdu mein ek kha'wat hai ' Jinhay haaThii palnay ka shoq ho , unhain Ghar kay darwaz'Y Onchhay rakne cha'he hai ' :)

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Why don't you address my argument, rather than just shouting "UNITY" towards sky, because mere shouts don't make people change their mind.

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:lol: Sindhi and Pashto is also spoken in some parts of India.
We should switch to French , Spanish , Italian , or Swahili very few Indians understand any of those languages.

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I hope you got its actual meaning as well :)

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Because its not an argument. That's your opinion. I m not looking to change anything. You are.

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Wow , very sensible reply. :k:

I can use it from time to time.

Punjabi kuRi accepts challenge to learn Sindhi
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I guess i have to make it even more simpler so that you can understand it.

Here is what i wrote in earlier post, Please read it.

*But i don't think Urdu should be the national language of Pakistan, since Urdu is the language of a small minority and not viable option looking at cultural variations of peoples of Pakistan.

The major regional languages(Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashto and Balochi) should be given the status of national languages, because those are the languages which truly represent the people who live in this country*

Now since an argument consists of the conclusion and premises that support that conclusion. In short form my conclusion is this.

The major regional languages(Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashto and Balochi) should be given the status of national languages

Now what are the premises for this conclusion **

1***. Urdu is the language of a small minority and not viable option looking at cultural variations of peoples of Pakistan.*

**2. *those(mentioned in conclusion) are the languages which truly represent the people who live in this country*

There is a hidden premise as well which you can get from looking at above premise.

3. The national language/languages of a country should be the language/languages of its majority, and true representative of its culture.

If you find it still difficult to get than i'll recommend some introductory stuff on logic. It would be nice if you address this argument and take the discussion forward.

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Re: can urdu be our national language?

i don't think it is quite possible to fully implement it as a national language in all corners of Pakistan.

I don't think there is one language that can be considered spoken by a majority on national level.

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Pakistan as a country is very different than your 'basic' logical sense can understand.

You want one or more parts to be separated?

1- Urdu is a mixture of many languages ( I don't need to explain this) and can easily add local languages words. And has for the most part accepted many local words already.

2- Urdu which is called hindi in India is different than what is spoken or written in Pakistan.

3- Urdu can be written and understood still by many non-urdu speaking citizens and loved by them

4- Great poets of Urdu also came from local areas such as Faraz, Iqbal and Faiz etc.

5- Urdu language IS a national language so original question is based on lack of knowledge.

If it was meant that will it ever be implemented as national language, the one will ask** why not?**

6- None of the language has ability to join people of Pakistan but Urdu can and has at least in west Pakistan.

7- When question was raised on same ground west Pakistani outrightly called former East Pakistani Bengalis as traitors.

So why should we not call those who call for majority language becoming national language as traitors?

Now, I just wanted to present a counter logic since you asked for it. This does not mean I agree with the notion that anyone asks for majority language as national language to be called a traitor.

West Pakistan was wrong then and people will be wrong now to call anyone traitor.

8- Urdu is understood even outside Pakistan and India and has more reasons and ability to convey Pakistani message outside with better understanding.

9- Urdu is not owned by few people in Pakistan. It enjoys love and respect from majority people of Pakistan and few extremists/nationalists just try to bring this issue for inciting people. What is funny is that these so called nationalistic minded people would rather speak broken english than speak Urdu when talk to even a fellow Pakistani.

10-** Look for the reasons and rectify why Urdu language is not national language in full sense. **

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Wow kia zabardast post hai Masha Allah.

Pehli baat to yay hai kay jub Pakistan banaya un minority nain to majority walon ko Pakistan mil gaya. Ub wo chahtay hain Urdu language kay bajaay unka language National language bun jaay to kia Qaid e azam ya Pakistan bananay walay leaders Pagal thay jo Urdu language nafiz kia?

Itnay saal ho gaay aaj tuk aap logon ka tassub barqarar hai. Mujhay naheen pata kub say urdu raij hai Pakistan main kia itnay saal honay kay bawajood bhi aap logon say urdu hazam naheen ho rahi. Masha Allah wah kia baat hai Thread opener ki.

Sawal parh kar to mujhay aisa laga jaisy hukumat e Pakistan sawal kar rahi hai kia Urdu ko National language banaya ja sakta hai ya naheen. Mazhaka baat yay hai kay kai dahaniaan beet gaeen. LOL

AGar aap kay tassubi zahan ko hawa denay kay liaay sawal poocha jaay kay kon sa lnguage National language banana chahyay Pakistan ko to aik alag jhagra ho ga kay har qaum kahay gi kay hamara language ziada bola jata hai. Mera jawab to yay ho ga kay "HAAN AAP KAY PIND MAIN ZIDA BOLI JAANAY WALI LANGUAGE HO GI AAP KI LANGUAGE" Laikin Urdu her qaum bolti hai Pakistan ki + Indian boltay hain (thora mukhtalif hai per wo koi bari baat naheen.

Agar aap apny chotay say zahan ko zara sa jagain aur ankhain khol kar dekhain to wo din door naheen jub English ki tarha Urdu bhi aik bari language ho gi insha Allah kaisay.

Aisay kay Aaap ka ya site Urdu main hain. Owner mera naheen khiaal kay uski mother tongue urdu ho gi. Mera khiaal hai Punjabi. See the difference. Many websites open by Punjabi, Pathan and may be sindhi or balochi (agar wo site kholain gay to urdu main hi.

Is liaay kay Agarr aaj Site owner Punjabi main kar day site to yay site pay anay walay Urdu speaking (Pakistani, Indian) to samajhnay say qasir hon gay is kay ilawa bohat say Pakistani Yani Sindhi balochi waghaira haan sirf unkay pass wo rah jain gay jo sirf Punjabi bolnay walay hain Yani wo khud aur Indian Punjabi.

Urdu ki wajah say kai loag site main aa kar zum ho jaatain hain sirf aik language ki wajah say hi. Urdu + apna culture.

Yay urdu hi hai jis nain bidais main bhi hum sub ko GS kay zariaay jora huwa hai.

Agar zara sa aql istamal kar lia jata to aisa ahmaqana sawal hi naheen uthta.