Re: Can someone please substantiate/confirm
its fairly concise anyway, if you do not have time - then i guess we will have to skip. I do not have the time to re-summarise unfortunately. It was not a long complicated post, three sections broken up with big gaps
That would mean its a disputed matter, and Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah do not need heavily authenticated narrations to believe in that virtue
You see the basic principle and possibility for it already exists for us, is established from elsewhere, so such a virtue can be believed through non fabricated Hadith and approval of Scholars. This is the principle we have in place for such virtues, and historical reports
I have not accepted there is difference of opinion on it however. I think of those Scholars acceptable to me who have commented none have disapproved, many have approved - which is a ijma. But thats one thing, the other reality is that it is a belief which is approved by Imams - so it is valid even if no ijmah exists. So the heavy criticism and hatred of those who believe in it - see page one/two - has no right to exist. And if there is ijmah as I think then obviously this has repercussions for those who are against it
I think the issue is that its seen as Aqeedah changing virtue for some people who are increasing in number, but not an Aqeedah changing virtue for Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah. No it does not need vigorously authenticated narrations to back it up according to our criteria, this is not an area that requires that
Those who hold such high authenticity standards for historical and reports of virtues would have not history nor any virtues of their predecessors in their religion.
Basically if we have a weak but accepted narration on a historical or fazail matter - and it is accepted - or its meaning is accepted - but it is not at all acceptable to some other people - it means we have a difference of opinion on what is established from our base texts
I believe in the Noor of The Prophet SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam, and that He SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam is Nur of Allah. This is my Aqeedah, and Im bound by it - so any texts which suggest otherwise would be interpreted by me to suggest pardah, times of lesser and higher pardah, some saw it, some did not, some were able to see it, some not able at all etc etc
And I believe Isa Alaihis Salaam is Ruhullah, Spirit of Allah, and as we know the spirit is one aspect of the trinity to christians, yet Isa Alaihis Salaam is not denied this virtue in Islam. the representatives of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala are given virtues to show their representation.
I see myself as the Believer that sees their Virtues, and this is important to me. I cant see the Prophet SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam [that would mean something] but I can see the ground around Him - there is no Shadow - the ground is smiling
‘‘O Ohud, be firm’’ meaning stop being excited ''for on you there is no more then a Prophet…"
Subahan Allah - The Creation of Allah interact with The Prophetic presence. Shadowless - ness is nothing for a Prophet