Temper, temper Mr. Popat, I have given the answers for the word Qadiani. Do you want to strip Mirza of his prophecy? Remove Qadiani from his name and he is not the addressee of so called, prophecy. Now why do you blame me for something Mirza said, allegedly came from God?
The verse you quoted, I just explain the meaning that it was the discussion amongst human, not the knowledge of the unseen; which you can not deny. So you should try again. Don’t blame me for your injure knowledge.
Calling Ahmadis as Qadianis : Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) was His name and because He (AS) was from Qadian, hence He used to add Qadiani as the last name. Lahories are people from Lahore, Multanis are people from Multan, and so on and so forth.
Its like calling all Muslims as Maccans, when Muslims are found everywhere in the world. Would you not point to anyone if someone calls Muslims as Islamis ?
Lets be a bit more mature and write what you want to write here instead of directing me to your blogs. Let me put your question forward and please do correct me if my question is not actually your question.
Question : How did Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) get the knowledge of unseen when Muhammad PBUH didnt get it?
Answer : I will once again quote the Quranic verse taken from Surah Al-Jin.
[72:27/28] 26/27 for some.. " He is the Knower of the unseen; and He reveals not His secrets to any one Except to him whom He chooses, namely a Messenger of His. And then He causes an escort of guarding angels to go before him and behind him"
Now, lets have discussion on this topic for now. You say Prophet Muhammad PBUH did not know the knowledge of unseen. May I please ask you to provide me with your understanding on the verse I quoted above ? What did Allah mean when He says that He discloses/reveals His secrets to no one BUT someone He chooses? Was Muhammad PBUH not a chosen one? If you say He was not chosen one, then me and you will surely have difference of beliefs. But, if you say He SAW was the chosen one, then Allah has revealed His secrets / knowledge of unseen to Prophet Muhammad PBUH.
Surely, the matter of unseen is something only Allah SWT knows as mentioned in other verses of Quran but Allah do tell some knowledge of unseen to the messengers HE choose, as is said in first quoted verse.
Knowledge of unseen is something a human being is completely unaware of. It does not consist of events in the future but ALSO events took place in past as well. We see in Quran that it is filled with events that took place in the past. Now, I know Quran is the word of Allah, but Prophet Muhammad in 6:50, the verse i quoted above says that He (SAW) only follows/believe whatever is revealed to HIM. In other words, if you examine those verses thoroughly, and read ahadith regarding the signs of the end of the world etc.. you will know that Prophet Muhammad PBUH surely was given the knowledge of 'unseen' which ONLY Allah knew, which Allah wanted the humankind to know through His messenger, namely , Muhammad PBUH.
Another verse to ponder upon :
[3:180] Allah would not leave the believers as you are, until He separated the wicked from the good. **Nor would Allah reveal to you the unseen. But Allah chooses of His Messengers whom He pleases. **Believe, therefore, in Allah and His Messengers. If you believe and be righteous, you shall have a great reward.
The knowledge of the future is only with God Almighty. However, He may favor whomever He pleases with some part of this knowledge. If a man is convinced about the news he gives concerning the future, he can only be a Messenger of God.
The Prophet Muhammad, upon him be peace and blessings, made numerous predictions about the future, and history has not contradicted them. Like the information he gave about the past, his predictions are also to be found in the Quran and in books of Tradition.
Ohhhhhh, this is nothing, I will show you some specimen what your cultist do when they can not defend Mirza with reasons. I understand your frustration, but it is all writings of Mirza. Why don’t you blame Mirza for writing such things? See your responses and be a judge for yourself who are the kids here. Frustration is a sure sign of defeat.
I wouldn’t come to your level and become personal, but read the evidence I provided and prove it to me that Mirza knew Quran. You want to try?
I even provided you a long summary on your insistence, but alas, you probably didn’t find any crumbs of comfort in it, so you are still bitter because you are just helpless to defend Mirza.
Frustration is what I find in you when you have nothing to say in issues of Khatam e nabuwat or the death of Isa (AS). Frustration from my side is due to the fact that you are writing paragraphs over paragraphs, praising your own self, instead of bringing your questions one at a time. You ask me to prove Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS)'s truthfulness. Which scale do you want to measure His truthfulness? Where do you want me to start? What topic of discussion to which I reply will prove His truthfulness is what I am asking from you?.. and there u are keep praising your own blogs.
Prove it that Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) knew Quran? He (AS) knew Quran that none else understood it in the past 1400 centuries. Isnt that what your future Imam Mahdi should be an expert of ? He (AS) knew Quran and based on that He (AS) has proven Isa (AS)'s death. Such thorough was His research that He (AS) in one of His research actually counted the word "mutawaffi" (that other Muslim take as raised up alive) in the entire Quran. Proved that the word means death. Knowledge of Quran by Him (AS) was such that He made Muslims see Quran in a completely different way which no one has ever shown. His (AS) knowledge was not JUST limited to Quran but was an expert of other religious scriptures such as Bible. Knowledge of other religions was such that He (AS) used to have munazraas with Arya Samaaj and Christian missionaries of His time and used to defeat them single handedly.
When I talk about ur beliefs, you start jumping here and there. Your belief is that Imam Mahdi will not claim His mahdi-ship but rather people will find Him and insist that He is the one. Will you test Him on his knowledge of Quran so that you can accept Him or like, what you do ..let ur ullamas be satisfied and if they are .. you'll accept them? What if Imam Mahdi (AS)'s way of understanding Quran is different from what you've have been believing? how will you go about finding Imam Mahdi (AS)? Will you take the word of someone who is not divinly guided over someone who is ?? what if He is already gone without anyone recognizing Him ?
Nothing is discussed because you all are looking at the angles you can come up against me, but you simply can not find these angles. That’s what I call job well done, don’t you think so? It is only 2 pages, but if it goes to 20 pages or 200 you still would be at the same place and spot, because you are just not capable of putting any arguments forward. Admit it there is no shame in it.
Shall I accumulate all the nasty comments all of you have written in these 2 pages? I am just playing with you like one play with kids. If you didn’t pay attention to my comments that nothing would help you, then it is not my fault. Don’t worry slowly you will realise it, it is only the beginning.
Your comments shows disrespect towards Ahmadiyya jamaat. You keep callin us Qadiani hurt us. You know very well that this term is what Ahmadis dont like calling themselves with. Yet, if your intentions were right, you would have appologized and used Ahmadis in your replies.. but you did not. Nasty comments can be reported to mods, but be careful of your own replies because they leave an impression of offensive mode rather than an impression of learning from Ahmadis here.