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The more precise and specific your questions are the easier it is for members to answer you.
In your first link, I think you want to talk about finality of Prophet Hood?
In second link, you want to talk about His grandfather?
in third link , you want to talk about his truthfulness ?
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Mr. Popat
It is very simple and easy approach adopted by me. Let me facilitate you and others what I am asking from you guys.
1- Mirza said only window remains open of Prophet Hood is “Sirah-e-Siddiq”. This is the only way someone can become Prophet according to Mirza. I asked questions about it; please look at the first post by me and my subsequent answers to one of the members. It is spelt out very clearly what I am asking.
2- We do not find any one in the Islamic Ummah who has claimed Prophet Hood following the Sirah of the Siddiq; we do not find this Siddiq either, so I am asking the questions already listed twice on this thread. Sirah means how a person spent his life, to follow the Sirah of a Siddiq, Siddiq has to be a person with his life ethics to use as an example, who is this person?
3- In the absence of evidence for any such person (H Abu Baker Siddiq RA never claimed the Prophet Hood, therefore, no one can be a prophet in his foot steps) , I have included the topic of Sadiq in my first article, which in essence what Siddiq means too. But it is also a condition set out in the Holy Quran for all the past Prophets of Allah SWT. Therefore, I am asking you the questions how Mirza was a Sadiq? The issue of Gallantry of his grand father was part of it, that’s why I have included all three relevant articles for discussion in this thread; they all are interlinked to the topic of “Sadiqoon” a condition even for the believers in the Holy Quran. Mirza failed this condition set out in the Holy Quran miserably. I want you to defend Mirza and prove it to us Muslims how he could even be a believer according to the Holy Quran, let alone a Prophet?
4- Mirza also based his Prophet Hood on the false notion that he received the knowledge of the unseen. I have provided Quranic evidence, which demonstrate categorically that no one has the knowledge of the unseen. Can you prove it from the Holy Quran to us how Mirza given knowledge of the unseen?
5- It is a common mantra of the Qadianis based on the writings of Mirza that he is the second advent of Prophet Muhammad SAW and even better then Prophet Muhammad SAW. It is proven from the Quranic verses that Prophet Muhammad SAW did not have knowledge of the unseen. How did Mirza get this knowledge of the unseen, when Prophet SAW didn’t have it? Remember Mirza said his prophet hood is from the fountain of the Prophet Hood of Prophet Muhammad SAW.
6- Prove it from the Holy Quran, concepts of Zil, Barooz, hulhul etc. etc. There is absolutely no concept of re-incarnation in Islam, or above three concepts. It is your job to prove it to us Muslims from the Holy Quran, how he has claimed these titles when there is absolutely no evidence in the holy Quran. On the contrary Quran provides evidence to the opposite. I have every intention to write an article on this, Inshallah, proving the fallacy of the claims of Mirza, God willing.
7- Prophet Muhammad SAW was known as As-Sadiq amongst his SAW peers, even before his SAW call. Now tell me how Mirza was like Prophet Muhammad SAW on the point of being Sadiq?
8- In the articles I have listed numerous examples where Mirza deliberately misquoted the Holy Quran, or deliberately tried to introduce the meanings, which were not there. This is a clear cut deception. Defend Mirza on his deceptions against the Word of Allah SWT, the Holy Quran. This is the first condition of being a Muslim.
9- Prove that Mirza can be Messiah of the Jews and the Christians traditions according to his claims? Remember he wrote very nasty things about Isa As and claimed he As never fulfilled the conditions for the Jewish Messiah foretold in the old testament. I want you to prove how Mirza fulfilled these conditions? If he didn’t then how did he become “Promised Messiah”?
10- I have also provided the evidence of Mirza claim that he is the only one in the Ummah who has received 23 years of revelations like Prophet Muhammad SAW. Claiming that the test of cutting the vein mentioned in the Holy Quran for Prophet Muhammad SAW also apply to him. His veins would have been cut by Allah SWT if he introduced his own words to the Words of Allah SWT. I produced evidence after evidence from your cult’s resources which demonstrate that Mirza did introduced his own words for alleged Word of Allah SWT. He therefore failed the test. Defend Mirza and prove that the test applied to him and he passed the test.
A- There were many in the Muslim Ummah who claimed they received revelations according to the article on your own Jamat’s web site, they also passed the test of longevity set by Mirza. Why they were not Prophets?
B- There were non-Muslims who claimed to be Messiah and recipients of revelations why were they not prophets? Would you accept them as prophets if only condition is to have 23 years of revelations, according to Mirza?
C- Mirza said this is the condition set out in the earlier scriptures and by all the Prophets of Allah SWT. Could you show us the evidence from the scriptures?
D- Mirza said this test is the barometer to judge all the true Prophets of Allah SWT. Tell us John the Baptist i.e. Yaha AS, and Jesus i.e. Isa As were not true Prophets of Allah SWT?
They didn’t last for long and failed (nauzobillah) the barometer set by Mirza. Yaha As were killed by the people, and ISA As according to Mirza, were put on the cross, i.e. crucified but some how survived. Even though Quran categorically says, the Jews neither crucified him (AS) nor killed him (AS). Any how, according to Mirza he As almost died. After 33 AD there is no evidence for the continuation of revelations to Isa AS, which suggests that the revelations discontinued. You have 2 choices either to show us undeniable proofs that the revelations continued or tell us that Isa As were not the true Prophet of Allah SWT according to the condition set by Mirza; because the revelations did not last for 23 years for him AS.
I hope the tasks facing you are clearer to you now. These issues are fundamental to the claims of Mirza and his credibility as an honest person or Sadiq; the claims of Mirza are based on these arguments. I am sure you want to prove it to us Muslims how Mirza was a prophet. I am only using his own arguments which he has listed in his support. I find all of his arguments contrary to the Quranic/Islamic teachings and not proven from the history, in the context of “Siddiq” or Sadiq and as a consequence he failed miserably in his claim to be a Prophet. Funnily he has failed every test he himself set out.
You can try to prove otherwise, I have already provided undeniable proofs in my articles. It is not very easy to twist the evidence I have produced, nor there any chance for you to use the arguments listed in your pocket books. You will have no joy in the literature of your cult either. Books of Mirza would be useless too. Holy Quran would be no help either, I have already displayed Quranic evidence on all the major issues proving Mirza wrong.
One piece of advice, please don’t try to push this idea that it was not about H Abu Baker Siddiq RA, because I have the evidence available in the writings of Mirza. Also I have other evidence available which proves Mirza wrong from his own writings.
Good luck, I am waiting for your answers.
This is my sincere advice to all Qaidanis on this forum, Please don’t think that issues like death of Isa As would benefit you an iota. Unfortunately for you, Mirza has committed blunders after blunders; I am in the process of writing three articles on these very issues. Once these articles are ready, the evidence would be presented covering all aspects in this matter. I will cover both scenarios, his As death, which some Muslims believed 1000 years before Mirza, with one exception; no Muslim said he As died at the age of 120/125 in Kashmir. Mirza has left you with a heavy burden of proof. I can petty much destroy his book “Jesus in India” with proofs; show you factual fallacies committed by Mirza. Death of Isa As according to Mirza is actually your worst and weakest point not the strongest. You are mistaken to think that death of Isa As is such a big problem for Muslims. Your perception is about to change forever. Doesn’t worry; when my articles are ready, you will understand what I mean, until then wait patiently.
I will also cover believe of majority of Muslims that he As was lifted alive by Allah SWT. In either case I can provide undeniable proofs that Mirza was absolutely wrong, in either of these scenarios. Mirza has committed very grave errors indeed.
Probably it is started to dawn on you all, what I said in my initial posts was accurate. You may have succeeded against few Muslims, but now is the time for rude awakening. Good luck to you all in your endeavors to defend Mirza. You certainly face an uphill task.
