can anything be done?

My first cousin recently died, and as much as it is Allah’s will, its also due to some criminal incompetance or worse from the doctors who treated him. I was wondering if anything can be done about it, aside from writing a beykaar letter to some newspaper.

He was 2 years old and 4 months, and had a hole in his heart, a condition diagnosed when he was less than 10 days old. about two weeks ago he had persistent pneumonia, which made it hard for him to eat. That was all that was wrong with him, not very serious, he had had it for about two weeks and aside from having coughs and stuff, nothing very major. otherwise he was a perfectly happy kid. we took him to a private medical clinic run my national institute of child health (NICH)'s director, and there they gave him a medicine contraindicated in his condition (this is the clinic that has been treating him since he was born) that had the effect of increasing the thickness of his blood, and caused his condition to significantly deteriorate. since the child was in visible pain, and the doctor from NICH was having a happy ramzaan and had taken the day off with his cellphone turned off while instructing his staff not to let patients leave. we forcibly had him discharged from there after 3 hours, and rushed him to the National Institute of Cardiovascular Diseases (NICVD), because by now, the problem was in his heart.

Prior to this I had always thought NICVD to be a very respectable place. Since it was iftaar time, there was nobody to help the child in the emergency ward for an hour. Then, the doctor on call had him admitted. They gave him a painkiller and he went to sleep which then became a coma.

At this point, because his blood had become very thick, his blood oxygen count decreased very rapidly, progressively decreasing before our eyes. My sister, who is a paediatrician, and two other doctors in my family thought that at this point a ventilator was necessary, when his oxygen levels were first around 50, then 40 then 30 percent. The doctors kept telling us that a ventilator is not necessary. Over a period of time over the next two days they kept telling us that, as the lack of oxygen caused brain damage to him, and eventually his death.

As the end came closer, we were told that they actually didnt have a ventilator.

Had they told us before, we would’ve taken him somewhere else. But they treat patients like such garbage, they would rather give easy answers than take on criticism even if it means a life. 15 minutes after the death, my mamu who at that point had no means of transportation, that even though he paid for the room for the day, the room had to be vacated because the specialists were doing their rounds, and didnt wish to see dead children. It was not their problem, where the father is supposed to take his precious child now wrapped in a sheet.

As you can imagine, we are all very angry, and want to do something atleast to make sure that children rushed to the city’s largest dedicated cardio hospital dont suffer this fatal mistreatment. im not a doctor, so I cant do anything about it directly, and understand that its probably very easy to wriggle out for them now, based on whatever little evidence we have. i dont know, i might even be wrong about it.. but i dont think i am. Can anything tangible be done?

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Inna lillahe wa inna elaihe rajeooN.

I am very sorry at your loss.

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In Pakistan, pray Allah swt for sabr, I wish justice was easy to get.

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Very sad :(

Tell these GEO/ARY ppl so they can show it on their news. Atleast that will get the hospital a bad name and they may review their procedures. Don;t think there's much u can do to get justice or sue them or anything.

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getting it on GEO/ARY is a good idea femme, i'll see what we can do about that. i dont know how receptive they will be seeing as there is no child anymore to show, there is scarcely any documentation, its their words against ours.

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Thats so sad to hear. I hope Allah gives alot of sabr to your mamo and your family.
Something similar happen to an aunt of mine and her daughter, they died because of a doctor's and a hospitals negligence and they couldnt do anything about it.

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Sorry to hear that. :flower2:
Pakistan may system kabhi nahi badal sakta.

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Sorry for your loss :flower2:
Can’t you take the medical evidence and file a complaint with the authority that certifies doctors?

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Ravage u did have three doctors from ur family there too right? It would be their word against the hospital doctors too. They didn't give a medical report or anything?

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thanks everyone..

aishaa.. im not sure the kind of medical evidence at my disposal. nevertheless that is a very good idea.

femme, im not sure what they gave. he did have a file, although the readings they were taking of him were very non-systematic, only at our insistence was the pulse oxygen taken at all the second time, so no regular readings..

the specialist in our family doesnt live here, and unfortunately, wasnt able to be here when all this happened. paeds is very specialised so the other two doctors arent really much as sources. so its them against one specialist who lives in riyadh and is basing her judgement on the sketchy information we can give her based on the sketchy information the medical staff deigns to take whenever the fancy suits them..

i will review the medical records on our disposal or have them sent to a specialist, to see if we can say anything from them though..

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yaar ravage..so sorry to hear about your loss..i hope you can do something about this

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Inna lillahe wa inna elaihe raje'oon

Sorry to hear about your cousin. May Allah give the Pakistani doctors some hidaaya.

You should definitely talk to a lawyer in Pak and see if there is a case. It will not bring your lil cousin back but it might prevent these khabees doctors from repeating this.

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There are too many cases of this even in the US where ego overtakes humanity. Aren't there any independant watchdog groups that you can report them to, a doctors' union that can take action, or government agency that is responsible for such things? Maybe talking to and getting the testimony of nurses and other hospital staff would be a good idea as well. If it comes down to your word against theirs, try to collect any tangible evidence you can.

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And funguy, this is not just a Pakistani phenomenon, you will not believe the stats on medical malpractice in the States and how many lives have been lost because of incompetence, nondisclosure of information, and so forth. In fact, I think there is a national registry and if I remember correctly from some article I read, it is public.

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Inna-Lillah-e-Wa-Inna-Ilaih-e-Rajioon…:flower1:

I believe a hole in the heart (Don’t know the medical term for it) is incurable…

What many doctors do, to alleviate the pain of the parents, is to make them believe that they are working on the patient but that expectations should not be held…

That way the shock is lessened for the parents and the family…Wallah-o-Alam if that was the case in this case too…

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Lajo: hole in infant hearts seem to repair with time, have seen one exmple atleast.

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that’s the difference .. over here ravage would have had plenty of options to choose from, .. back in Pakistan.. it’s mostly sabr and pray for the deceased soul.

I think Ramzan is to be blamed too.. if people in life saving professions need to observe their religious duties.. they better be strong enough to perform while they are doing it.. there is no excuse to fast and then run away from your job cuz of it.

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Maybe they shouldn't fast? I wouldn't want to be operated on by a surgeon who is fasting.

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It is very curable. Larger holes require open heart surgery while smaller ones can be closed by a catheter surgery.

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my advice would be to consider making a formal complaint to Pakistan Medical and Dental Council PMDC..realistically don't expect much but that is the actual organisation for the regulation of Doctors.