Asslam @ laquim
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What is NYA
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Should Ahmadies be consirded Muslims if yes why
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Is it allowed in Islam to marry your first cousins
1) no idea
2) no
3) yes
Re: Can any body help me
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**2) Should Ahmadies be consirded Muslims if yes why*
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How do we begin to judge who is, and is not, a Muslim? i think sadly enough - we have sufficient problems of our own to deal with; this one is really not that important IMHO. We don't have the time nor the resources to worry about whether every Hakim or Jamal on the street should be classified as a "Muslim" or not.
We should leave this particular aspect to Allah as He alone knows each of us best.
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some things r more obivous than that....
and we aint judging, we r just clarifying their position....
To Armghal:
Being an Ahmadi Muslim, I request you to not clarify my position. I would be very happy to do it myself.
You can only pray to Allah to show you the right path! Ameen!
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i pray to Allh that He may guide u to the right path and leave the unrightful path of the ahmadis :) Aameen
Re: Can any body help me
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2) Should Ahmadies be consirded Muslims if yes why
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Don't put the burden of proof on Ahmadis. He who asserts that Ahmadis are non-muslims needs to prove it. So your question should really be:
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Should Ahmadis be considered non Muslims, if yes, why?*
I advise you to read roohani khazain of Mirza, and you will find out yourself what they are.
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*Originally posted by ahmadarsalan: *
2) Should Ahmadies be consirded Muslims if yes why
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i reckon this is something muslims should not attempt to answer, who are we to say who is and isn't a muslim?
Allah will decide who is and who isn't.
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This just in: Allah (SWT) has already decided…He who doesn’t believe in the finality of the Holy Prophet :saw:, is not a Muslim…Check your Quran…
^ Lajawab, maybe I have a different copy of the Qur'an as yours.. mind pointing to where it says that anyone who doesn't believe in the finality of the Prophet is a non Muslim??
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Impressive reply.
Good for you, Ums :k:
Ahmadi's r considered muslims in west only, in Pakistan they r legally non-muslim.
infact there religion is very very self contradictory
mirza claims to be what rubish stuff.
may we all r blessed with rigth path
Who has the highest authority, Allah or the Pakistani National Assembly?
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*Originally posted by ahmadarsalan: *
2) Should Ahmadies be consirded Muslims if yes why
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No, because muslims are not allowed to change Quran, real muslims don't need to change Quran, they accept every single word in Quran. Ahmadies have their own version of Quran, to suit their false believe.
before saying anything proove your point. Who ever saying we have made our own religion (me talking as an ahmadi).
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^ Lajawab, maybe I have a different copy of the Qur'an as yours.. mind pointing to where it says that anyone who doesn't believe in the finality of the Prophet **is a non Muslim*??
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It's written on numerous places in Quran, that Mohammed (pbuh) was indeed the last prophet of Allah. Your "different copy of Quran" is only to suit Ahmadi believe. The fact that you have a 'different copy of Quran " tells a lot about your believe.... That's the whole problem I guess, the 'different copy'. When you carefully read whatever Mirza wrote or said, you find many contradictions, (as you also would find in the Bible btw).
You don't find any contradictions in the real Quran. It's writing alone is a miracle. Everyone through the centuries, muslim or non-muslim has agreed that the way it was written, the way the beautifull verses were composed, is like a miracle. So beautyfull, so perfect, artistically. Not only is it filled with tellings of real miracles, the composition itself alone is already a miracle.
Last time I read the Holy Quran, it was the same given to the Holy Prophet of Islam (Peace be upon him). And I also believe that its the same as yours.
If you have any ambiguity please go to the following website and read it for yourself. Read from the very start to the very end and then decide whether you are right on wrong that Ahmadis have a different Holy Quran.
With English Translation: Holy Quran with English Translation
With Urdu Translation:Holy Quran with Urdu Translation
Dear All Brother and Sisters Asslam-0-alaqum
here are few question arisn, which needed to be cleard for anyone who believe or not believe in religion.
reason of new religion came along time to time was to pass the right message to people around.
We Should Believe in 3 main things
a) ONE GOD (ALLAH)
b) LAST PROPHET (PBUH)
c) AND THE LAST DAY (DAY OF JUDJEMENT)When Prophet (pbuh) came along, was the reason to provide a better and unchangeable religion to ummah.
When people claim to have different, Quran's and Different Religions in Islam basically they are trying to cause a confilct btween them. It is said many time that All Mulisms are Brothers, ONE blood who get together on one voice. By causing all these differences we are showing other people that we are weak.
If the questions should be who should we call N0N-MUSLIMS.... I think again i would say the answer from "sayda" who are we to judge who is and who isnt. But one thing is clear who believe in One GOD (Allah) and His Last Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). CALL HIM MUSLIM
INFACT " There is a Quote in Quran " He who Think can wirte a worse like this make it and prove" (this quote is not complete)
i think there must be a reason when this quote was mentioed,
please 4giv if i am wrong somewhere
wa-salam
ur brother
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No, because muslims are not allowed to change Quran, real muslims don't need to change Quran, they accept every single word in Quran. Ahmadies have their own version of Quran, to suit their false believe.
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Dear sadya?
I presume you have read the quran?
Pls show me the verse re: STONING to death for married adulterers?
Or, the verse re: zakaat to be 2.5%?
or, the FIVE namaz and the correct way (hanafi, maliki, hanbali, shaefi or wahabi)?
If you cannot then you have CHANGED the quran?