Can a King over rule the verdict of Shoura ?

Wife forcefully divorced by Shoura council - and now the only way out is to have the King talk to the highly Learned Ulema - e - Karaaam](http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=104471&d=10&m=12&y=2007&pix=kingdom.jpg&category=Kingdom)

Found this article on the arab news website.
Yet another pathetic display of the so called “PURE” islam…

I am not even concerned about this incident being taken up by the International media and using it as yet another baton to bash Islam, at present that is a matter of secondary importance.

My real worry is about the rest of the islamic world who follow the PURE islam practiced in Saudi Arabia, God help us !!!

Some quotes from the article, for those who dont want to read the whole thing

“…a Saudi judge nullified Fatima’s marriage to Mansour Al-Timani, 37, on July 20, 2005. The court decision was issued after Fatima’s half brothers filed a divorce case saying that Mansour had lied about his tribal background

“*…The only legal way to end this family’s misery is for the king to intervene by asking the Supreme Judicial Council, the highest judicial authority in the Kingdom, to look at the case again..”

" … *In the same way that Fatima is suffering, Mansour is also. In July he was made to sign two gag orders by Dammam police preventing him from speaking to the press. When being made to sign the second gag order, Mansour was also detained with Noha (his daughter) "

and most importantly;

… provide sayings from the Prophet (peace be upon him) as well as Islamic scholars negating the Al-Jouf judge’s decision to nullify Mansour and Fatima’s marriage…

My question is, if the king finds that the shoura council screwed up the whole thing, will he announce some punishment for the Mohtarim Ulema e Karaam ?

Re: Can a King over rule the verdict of Shoura ?

:hmmm: it is me only or someone else is also seeing these SA news now revolving more often than king Fahads time. :hmmm:

Re: Can a King over rule the verdict of Shoura ?

well to force anything in Islam is HARAAM for instance forcing a non believer to become muslim is Haraam so that person will not be classified as a muslim....

so the same thing applies here rulers or judges cannot force someone to divorce so personaly for breaking up a marriage they should get punished...

and according to an HAdith from Mishkaat ul msabih

.................the best act done by saitan is of the act of breaking the bond between husband and wife.......

marriage and divorce is a very delicate matter and divorce its there for anyone to do but still in the eyes of God its the most haited thing...

Re: Can a King over rule the verdict of Shoura ?

pretty basic and fundamental
I wonder what justification was given by them to nullify the marriage

Re: Can a King over rule the verdict of Shoura ?

its saudi they like to mix and match....they will go with whatever suits them better....

Re: Can a King over rule the verdict of Shoura ?

well at what level of shoura council does this judge presides? if at lower/middle level then kings involvement to ask supreme shoura council for a review of case won't be a big issue. thats similar to asking supreme court to review a case done at lower/high court level. i see no alarming signs if king were to get involved.

Re: Can a King over rule the verdict of Shoura ?

oh ho kings can change religion, shura council ki ruling kon si barri bat hai…
tum log bhi baywaqufana sawaal poochtay ho :halo:

Re: Can a King over rule the verdict of Shoura ?

well just like majority of ppl don't know about their rights and the constitution of the country they belong to, similary majority of the ppl don't know much about islam either. that is why a king amongst muslims is like ANDHER NAGRI MAIN KANA RAJA. he's got ulema at his disposal to right his wrongs and ppl will accept it as is.

Re: Can a King over rule the verdict of Shoura ?

aight x2 bahi , exactly same as The doctrines of the Reformation or The change of fiqa by Lucknovi newababs !

Re: Can a King over rule the verdict of Shoura ?

Not that I'm a fan of the Saudi Monarchy, but the article seems to make it clear that all the King can do is refer the case to another court. That other court, not the king, would overrule the Shoura.