Re: Can a Choudhry boy marry a Syed girl?
The more important question is do your horoscopes match? If not…it’s a no-go. Sorry. 
Now if they DO match…do you really want to marry someone who has more faith in the man-made caste system as opposed to the stars in the heaven? 
Tis a lose-lose situation, OP. Also, you calling yourself a “boy” is a far more pressing issue than you being a Choudhary. Again…
Re: Can a Choudhry boy marry a Syed girl?
Our preferred method of marital discrimination is religion, not caste.
Re: Can a Choudhry boy marry a Syed girl?
Tauba Tauba!
Yeh Shaadi Nahin Ho Sakti! :D
Troll?
Re: Can a Choudhry boy marry a Syed girl?
hmm m syed too well in my family they also dont let us marry in any other caste even they say dont even think about that.. now i dont wanna say anything else :)
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I am a Choudhry born and raised in the U.S and she is a Syed born in Pakistan and raised in the U.K. She's afraid to tell her parents about me because they look at people's castes. Is a Choudhry as high as a Syed when it comes to this?
WE ARE SET BACK DUE TO LOTS AND LOTS OF STUPID THINGS AND ONE OF 'EM IS THIS CASTE CRAP :)
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Re: Can a Choudhry boy marry a Syed girl?
**Once there was a very handsome, pious, well educated young man, whose parents emphasized for him to get married. They had seen so many marriage proposals, and he had turned them all down.
The parents thought it was becoming a little ridiculous or suspected that he may have someone else in mind.
However every time the parents left the girl's house, the young man would always say "She's not the one!"
The young man only wanted a girl who was religious and practicing. (Which was hard to find).
However one evening his mother arranged for him, to meet a girl, who was religious and practicing.
On that evening, the young man and girl were left to talk and ask each other questions (as one would expect). The young man, being a gentleman that, he allowed the young lady to ask first.
The young girl asked the young man so many questions. She asked about his life, his education, his friends, his family, his habits, his hobbies, his lifestyle, his enjoyment, his time pass, his experiences, his shoe size and his likes and dislikes. Basically everything!
And the young man replied to all of her questions, without tiring and politely with a smile. Young girl took up nearly all of the time, over an hour and felt bad and asked the young man "Do you have any questions?"
Young man said, "Yes, I only have 3 questions..."
Young girl thought, wow, only 3 questions okay, go ahead and shoot.
Young man's first question was, (1) Who do you love the most in the world, someone whose love nothing would ever overcome? She said, "this is an easy question! Answer to your question is my mother."
Young man smiled and asked second question, (2) You said that you read a lot of Qur'an, could you tell me which Surahs you know the meaning of?
Hearing this she went red and embarrassed and said "I do not know the meaning of any yet, but I am hoping to soon Insha'Allah. I have just been a bit busy."
The third question the young man asked, was (3) I have been approached for my hand in marriage by girls that are lot more prettier than you, why should I marry you?
Hearing this, the young girl was outraged, she stormed off to her parents with fury and said I do not want to marry this man he is insulting my beauty and intelligence.
And the young man and his parents once again left without an agreement of marriage. This time, the young man's parents were really angry and said "What did you do to anger that young girl, the family was so nice and pleasant, and they were religious like you wanted. What did you ask the girl? Tell us!"
Young man said, firstly I asked her, who do you love the most? She said, her mother. The parents said so, what is wrong with that?
Young man said, "No one, is Muslim, until he loves Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'alaa) and his Messenger (SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) more than anyone else in the world." If a woman loves Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'alaa) and Beloved Prophet Muhammad (SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) more than anyone, she will love me and respect me and stay faithful to me, because of that love and fear for Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'alaa). And we can share this love, because this love is greater than lust for beauty.
Young man said, then I asked, 'You read Holy Qur'an a lot, can you tell me the meaning of any Surah?' And she said 'no'. because I haven't had time yet.
So I remembered the saying of Imam Shafi'i, "All humans are dead except those who have knowledge ... And all those who have knowledge are asleep, except those who do good deeds .. And those who do good are deceived, except those who are sincere ... And those who are sincere are always in a state of worry (for others)."
She has lived 20 years on this earth and not found any time to seek knowledge, why would I marry a woman, who does not know her rights and responsibilities, and what will she teach my children, except how to be negligent, because the woman is the Madrasah (school) and the best of teachers. And a woman, who has no time for Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'alaa), will not have time for her husband.
The third question I asked her was, that a lot of girls, more prettier than her, had approached me for marriage, why should I choose her? That is why she stormed off, getting angry.
Young man's parents said that is a horrible thing to say, why would you do such a thing; we are going back there to apologize. Young man said I said this on purpose, to test whether she could control her anger.
Holy Prophet Muhammad (SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) said "Do not get angry, do not get angry, do not get angry" repeatedly when asked how to become pious, because anger is from Satan.
If a woman cannot control her anger with a stranger she just met, do you think she will be able to control it with her husband? So, the moral of this story is, a marriage is based on: Knowledge not looks, Practice not preaching, Forgiveness not anger, Spiritual love not lust and compromise!
One should look for a person who (1) Has love for Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'alaa) and his Messenger (SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam), (2) Has knowledge of the deen (religion), and can act upon it, (3) can control her anger and another important and crucial factor that she be (4) willing to compromise.
And it goes both ways, so women seeking a man, should look for the same things.
May Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'alaa) make every marriage a success and let us create Love for Allah and his Messenger (SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) so that Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'alaa) can bless us, and create love in our lives, Ameen!**
Re: Can a Choudhry boy marry a Syed girl?
I am a Choudhry born and raised in the U.S and she is a Syed born in Pakistan and raised in the U.K. She's afraid to tell her parents about me because they look at people's castes. Is a Choudhry as high as a Syed when it comes to this?
You can marry absolutely anyone that is Muslim. Don't take the caste system overly serious! This is from the Hindus and has nothing to do with Islam. I usually compare it to a disease, the process about marriage and caste being a major player. I have no problems with culture.
As the prophet said "All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves."
Re: Can a Choudhry boy marry a Syed girl?
Yours is lower.
Syeds are considered to be the descendant of the Prophet (PBUH)
Caste range from my little knowledge 1. Syeds 2. The royals as Raja/Rana/Mughal 3. Zamindaars as Chaudhary, Malik, Arain 4. Workers as Chohans 5. Kammi as marasi, masali
Though, 2 and 3 consider each other as equal, but see one another as lower. Like a Raja will think Chaudhary is lower than him and Chaudhary thinks Raja is lower than him.
IMO, it is very difficult to figure out exactly how this caste system is build, because in Pakistan everyone see themselves as superior to the other whereas in India, it is more systematically ranged. Not that I think it is anything good.
Raja were not royals, The Rajputs which means servants of royals. This is what I have been told. Someone out there can correct me if I am wrong.
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^The rajas were royals like Raja Dahir. Not sure if the rajputs decsended from rajas or not.
PS: the guy (if he isn't trolling) asked if it could be a problem with the different castes and stuff... and the truth is it could, since people do consider castes in marriage even today. Whether it's correct or not is a completely separate issue but the truth is the girl's parents might have a problem with this match.
Re: Can a Choudhry boy marry a Syed girl?
**Once there was a very handsome, pious, well educated young man, whose parents emphasized for him to get married. They had seen so many marriage proposals, and he had turned them all down. The parents thought it was becoming a little ridiculous or suspected that he may have someone else in mind.
However every time the parents left the girl's house, the young man would always say "She's not the one!" The young man only wanted a girl who was religious and practicing. (Which was hard to find). However one evening his mother arranged for him, to meet a girl, who was religious and practicing.
On that evening, the young man and girl were left to talk and ask each other questions (as one would expect). The young man, being a gentleman that, he allowed the young lady to ask first. The young girl asked the young man so many questions. She asked about his life, his education, his friends, his family, his habits, his hobbies, his lifestyle, his enjoyment, his time pass, his experiences, his shoe size and his likes and dislikes. Basically everything! And the young man replied to all of her questions, without tiring and politely with a smile. Young girl took up nearly all of the time, over an hour and felt bad and asked the young man "Do you have any questions?"
Young man said, "Yes, I only have 3 questions..."
Young girl thought, wow, only 3 questions okay, go ahead and shoot. Young man's first question was, (1) Who do you love the most in the world, someone whose love nothing would ever overcome? She said, "this is an easy question! Answer to your question is my mother."
Young man smiled and asked second question, (2) You said that you read a lot of Qur'an, could you tell me which Surahs you know the meaning of? Hearing this she went red and embarrassed and said "I do not know the meaning of any yet, but I am hoping to soon Insha'Allah. I have just been a bit busy."
The third question the young man asked, was (3) I have been approached for my hand in marriage by girls that are lot more prettier than you, why should I marry you? Hearing this, the young girl was outraged, she stormed off to her parents with fury and said I do not want to marry this man he is insulting my beauty and intelligence.
And the young man and his parents once again left without an agreement of marriage. This time, the young man's parents were really angry and said "What did you do to anger that young girl, the family was so nice and pleasant, and they were religious like you wanted. What did you ask the girl? Tell us!"
Young man said, firstly I asked her, who do you love the most? She said, her mother. The parents said so, what is wrong with that?
Young man said, "No one, is Muslim, until he loves Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'alaa) and his Messenger (SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) more than anyone else in the world." If a woman loves Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'alaa) and Beloved Prophet Muhammad (SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) more than anyone, she will love me and respect me and stay faithful to me, because of that love and fear for Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'alaa). And we can share this love, because this love is greater than lust for beauty.
Young man said, then I asked, 'You read Holy Qur'an a lot, can you tell me the meaning of any Surah?' And she said 'no'. because I haven't had time yet. So I remembered the saying of Imam Shafi'i, "All humans are dead except those who have knowledge ... And all those who have knowledge are asleep, except those who do good deeds .. And those who do good are deceived, except those who are sincere ... And those who are sincere are always in a state of worry (for others)." She has lived 20 years on this earth and not found any time to seek knowledge, why would I marry a woman, who does not know her rights and responsibilities, and what will she teach my children, except how to be negligent, because the woman is the Madrasah (school) and the best of teachers. And a woman, who has no time for Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'alaa), will not have time for her husband.
The third question I asked her was, that a lot of girls, more prettier than her, had approached me for marriage, why should I choose her? That is why she stormed off, getting angry. Young man's parents said that is a horrible thing to say, why would you do such a thing; we are going back there to apologize. Young man said I said this on purpose, to test whether she could control her anger.
Holy Prophet Muhammad (SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) said "Do not get angry, do not get angry, do not get angry" repeatedly when asked how to become pious, because anger is from Satan.
If a woman cannot control her anger with a stranger she just met, do you think she will be able to control it with her husband? So, the moral of this story is, a marriage is based on: Knowledge not looks, Practice not preaching, Forgiveness not anger, Spiritual love not lust and compromise!
One should look for a person who (1) Has love for Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'alaa) and his Messenger (SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam), (2) Has knowledge of the deen (religion), and can act upon it, (3) can control her anger and another important and crucial factor that she be (4) willing to compromise. And it goes both ways, so women seeking a man, should look for the same things.
May Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'alaa) make every marriage a success and let us create Love for Allah and his Messenger (SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) so that Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'alaa) can bless us, and create love in our lives, Ameen!**
This guy had a serious superiority complex.
Re: Can a Choudhry boy marry a Syed girl?
^The rajas were royals like Raja Dahir. Not sure if the rajputs decsended from rajas or not.
PS: the guy (if he isn't trolling) asked if it could be a problem with the different castes and stuff... and the truth is it could, since people do consider castes in marriage even today. Whether it's correct or not is a completely separate issue but the truth is the girl's parents might have a problem with this match.
In that case I agree...
Re: Can a Choudhry boy marry a Syed girl?
Their hardware is not compatible.
Re: Can a Choudhry boy marry a Syed girl?
I thought Sayeds could only Marry among Sayeds... at least Islamically anyway.
Technically speaking though people are such that there will always be some thugs who push others round like cattle, thugs who force people to marry against thier will, thugs that wont let two lovers marry, lovers who dont honestly "love" each other.... the list is endless such is this terrible world.
Re: Can a Choudhry boy marry a Syed girl?
This guy had a serious superiority complex.
either that or he himself was an extremely pious man who was having trouble finding someone to match that perfection.
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I dont get it, how the hell are paki syeds decendants of the prophet? Does this mean they are ethnically arab?
Re: Can a Choudhry boy marry a Syed girl?
I dont get it, how the hell are paki syeds decendants of the prophet? Does this mean they are ethnically arab?
Yes all true Syeds are Arabs in that they have Arab blood in them somewhere... :)
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There’s no restriction in the Shariah. It’s just some rule people make up. http://fatwa.islamonline.net/livefatwa/english/Browse.asp?hGuestID=Uj2j26
My father is a Syed and my mother a non-Syed.
Anyways, people shouldn’t care about this caste nonsense. I’m glad my parents aren’t bothered about the caste thing, Alhamdullillah.
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I really don't care about this caste crap. Her dad's side just doesn't want low castes. Is mine low?
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^Hell no! Chaudry's is one of the top castes of Pakistan.
But you really have to find out yourself by asking the girl to confront her parents with it, cuz some syeds consider themselves tooo high for anyone except themselves.
Re: Can a Choudhry boy marry a Syed girl?
^Hell no! Chaudry's is one of the top castes of Pakistan.
But you really have to find out yourself by asking the girl to confront her parents with it, cuz some syeds consider themselves tooo high for anyone except themselves.
Are you Chaudhry?