Let presume I am your Governor , Governor of some so called Islamic Republic - I am a known Alcoholic and quite notorious for all ill doings prohibited by the religion I follow and the society I live in .
One day I got assassinated - for what ever reasons !
Should I get the safe exit by getting buried with all SarKari Taam Jhaam and labelled as a Shaheed !
or the nation should be brave enough by calling a spade a spade and disown me for all my ill doings .
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you should get sarkari protocol, yes... should you get the label "shaheed", NO... govt can announce some 'tamghaa' for you, yes.
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you should get sarkari protocol, yes... should you get the label "shaheed", NO... govt can announce some 'tamghaa' for you, yes.
Yes we got a history of burying our Yahayaz and Niazi with 21 topoN ki salami ... whats new !
But dont you think it should get end now ?
when we going to appreciate the real heroes of our nation - and start rewarding them !
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Ah, but here's the rub, by sinning as in drinking and being of a bad character, who did he hurt? In this worldy plane, probably very few. But, he did ruin his relationship with Allah and will be answerable on the day of qayamat for his personal sins. If he did right by his fellow citizens, then they can call him a hero, because they are calling his social acts heroic.
If on the other hand, his sins were against his fellow citizens, then yes, they have a right to judge him and condemn his actions and he does not deserve to be honoured by the people.
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Ah, but here's the rub, by sinning as in drinking and being of a bad character, who did he hurt? In this worldy plane, probably very few. But, he did ruin his relationship with Allah and will be answerable on the day of qayamat for his personal sins. If he did right by his fellow citizens, then they can call him a hero, because they are calling his social acts heroic.
If on the other hand, his sins were against his fellow citizens, then yes, they have a right to judge him and condemn his actions and he does not deserve to be honoured by the people.
Right on the mark - That's exactly what I feel
So why as an ummah - we Muslim have become so apologetic ?
One such person dies - we all start saying ' well he is gone now - so dont badmouth him ' ..
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Should I get the safe exit by getting buried with all SarKari Taam Jhaam and labelled as a Shaheed !
dont worry, we will make an exception in your case and let crows take care of the funeral.
khush!
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dont worry, we will make an exception in your case and let crows take care of the funeral.
khush!
Tamam UmaR saNg Zanii karte rahe Ahl-e-Watan
yea alaag baat hai Dafnaa'ain gey Ejaz k sath
and by ejaz I mean pride and honor - not your paRoos wala Ejaz khanzada :)
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On a serious note TLK - I am really Pissed today after seeing the sorrow state of our nation ! I didn't come back to this part of world for that !
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biraadar, maut ke ba'd Allah musif hai...kisi murde ko buraa bhalaa nahiiN kahnaa chaahiye kiuN k uskaa mo'aamila ab Allah ke Huzoor hai.
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lol. Welcome to Pakistan....Andher nagri chaupat raja, Taka ser bhaji, Taka ser khaja.
ps. do you care more about this world or the treatment of afterlife?
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On a serious note TLK - I am really Pissed today after seeing the sorrow state of our nation ! I didn't come back to this part of world for that !
extra-judicial killing is not the answer of any problem, period, be it murder, assassination or terrorism.
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It is unbelievable how many people are actually condoning this murder. Yes the governor may not have been the best Muslim and was used to spouting some BS here and there but he never actually hurt anyone. He did not deserve to be a victim of vigilante justice.
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biraadar, maut ke ba'd Allah musif hai...kisi murde ko buraa bhalaa nahiiN kahnaa chaahiye kiuN k uskaa mo'aamila ab Allah ke Huzoor hai.
So the same theory applies to yazid , Halakoo Khan and Hitler , right ?
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So the same theory applies to yazid , Halakoo Khan and Hitler , right ?
*islamically, YES! *
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extra-judicial killing is not the answer of any problem, period, be it murder, assassination or terrorism.
And as you got a judiciary to put such people on trail ?
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*islamically, YES! *
So all the verbal beating Yazid Ibn-e mawiyah receives from Muslims - is Islamically wrong !
right ?
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So all the verbal beating Yazid Ibn-e mawiyah receives from Muslims - is Islamically wrong !
right ?
EXACTLY, any doubt about it?
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So all the verbal beating Yazid Ibn-e mawiyah receives from Muslims - is Islamically wrong !
Your quote is factually wrong :D, not ALL the Muslims verbally beat him.
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It is unbelievable how many people are actually condoning this murder. Yes the governor may not have been the best Muslim and was used to spouting some BS here and there but he never actually hurt anyone. He did not deserve to be a victim of vigilante justice.
Here I again put the blame of Government's shoulder .. The current situation of this country is on verge of a revolution ..
May he didnt deserve to be a victim - but as they say ' GeyHooN k saTh GhuN bi Piss'jaya karta hai '
we need a massive shift of power in this country - real power to real owners - the nation !
or else we will all live to see the Bhatti gate becoming the next Place de la Révolution ! and people getting executed by Guillotine !
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Your quote is factually wrong :D, not ALL the Muslims verbally beat him.
how about majority ?
And in Democracy - It is the majority , who got the power:)