bhaijan, in order to set KP govt on its way, IK & his team has to oversee things and take their hands off when right direction has been set.
Initiatives like educational and health reforms, Necessary but revolutionary laws like RTI, Conflict of Interest, Right to services and all important Local government elections will not happen as effectively if IK does not oversee the proceedings. Bureaucracy is not directionless, they are annoyed and rightly so but that's the only way they will perform. KP is PTI's chance to show and this is why its IK's job to ensure it functions as per his vision.
Having said that, I expect this micromanagement to make way for more handoff approach once a direction is set and govt has made enough visible progress to gain confidence.
well hopefully the micromanagement approach in beginning works fine and does not rattle the local politics
of course..any column which criticzes PTI has "no substance", "on nawaz sharif payroll", "trash talker", "without mush sense"....
If there was substance I would have discussed that, this article is more about whining and crying, its more like bee-amma discussing one neighbor at another neighbor's house.
you even used a bad word in your post #287 in respond to hasan nasar column above and mods had to edit your post to make it more civilized...
so? I didn't even realize that this article was written by "Hassan Nisar", it was such a piece of trash, he wants IK to walk along his thoughts otherwise everything is badly done.
i wonder why dont you feel the same about anti-PMLN columns? i posted a very strong column against PMLN in post 303 but apparently that columnist must be a noble prize winner!
I didn't read article in that post, feel free to award the highest prize you want to give ;)
I think this election has proven one thing for sure. Those who used to say that Karachiites are being forced to vote for MQM are proven false. Army was deployed inside and outside polling stations, and yet it had no influence on votes cast in MQM's favor.
As a clarification, this post is not in praise of MQM. It is just another truth, even though an inconvenient one. It is like saying that Lahore's majority supports PMLN, or Peshawar's majority supports PTI.
Just facts. Just a truth.
I think this election has proven one thing for sure. Those who used to say that Karachiites are being forced to vote for MQM are proven false. Army was deployed inside and outside polling stations, and yet it had no influence on votes cast in MQM's favor.
As a clarification, this post is not in praise of MQM. It is just another truth, even though an inconvenient one. It is like saying that Lahore's majority supports PMLN, or Peshawar's majority supports PTI.
Just facts. Just a truth.
bhahahaha
I think this election has proven one thing for sure. Those who used to say that Karachiites are being forced to vote for MQM are proven false. Army was deployed inside and outside polling stations, and yet it had no influence on votes cast in MQM's favor.
As a clarification, this post is not in praise of MQM. It is just another truth, even though an inconvenient one. It is like saying that Lahore's majority supports PMLN, or Peshawar's majority supports PTI.
Just facts. Just a truth.
hahah munh pe tamacha bardasht nahi hua
btw when hazrat IK vistr karachi? as his BIG MOUT claim from hospital was
Soon I recover I visit Karachi first ehhhhhhhhh
from a national HERO towards a hatered person such a shame
I can’t understand the biases and nepotism people have on this forum. MQM got 85 percent of Assembly seats and got around 75 percent of cast votes. Such overwhelming majority even PMLN did not get in Punjab or PPP in interior Sindh. No doubt that even with such majority, Karachi with population of around 20 million one would have people opposing MQM, but that is true everywhere in democracy that a minority is always opposing majority.
So, why people get so upset when one talks about letting MQM have administrative, policing, and governmental power in Karachi.
What is happening is that those who do not represent Karachi or represent with their 5 to 10 percent mandate (for instance PPP) rule Karachi and think it is their right and then do everything to make trouble for majority of people living in Karachi and bring policies to exploit Karachi. It is just like after last election results PPP is given right to administer, police and rule Punjab or PMLQ is given right to administer, police and rule KPK.
I think as long as people’s mandate would not get accepted, Karachi would not see any peace. Worse is that, since MQM is getting mandate in Karachi years after years and by one way or another they are getting deprived of governmental power in Karachi, time is not far when such situation would backfire and if that would happen, it would not be good for anyone. ... then people would cry about loyalty towards Pakistan ... but it is not loyalty towards Pakistan that to be loyal one should stay unrepresented and exploited.
Result of Karachi by-election with army inside and outside the polling station and also in control of ballet papers and boxes … as demanded by PTI and other day-dreamer political parties, who do not get tired doing propaganda that MQM wins Karachi seats due to rigging, and wet-dreaming that under army they would win seats:
Above is result of by-election (with PEC website as reference) … and similar results were seen in general election too … so no big deal that MQM won seats in Karachi hands down.
Overall … MQM got:
17 out of 20 NA Karachi seats
33 out of 41 PA Karachi seats
And MQ got over 75 % of cast votes from Karachi … that includes votes of Muhajir, Sindhi, Pakhtun, Baloch and Punjabis living in Karachi.
So, it is obvious that only party that can bring peace in Karachi is MQM that has people supporting them on ground at most places in Karachi, and thus should have administer, policing and governing control of Karachi so that they can bring peace in Karachi.
And MQ got over 75 % of cast votes from Karachi … that includes votes of Muhajir, Sindhi, Pakhtun, Baloch and Punjabis living in Karachi.
So, it is obvious that only party that can bring peace in Karachi is MQM that has people supporting them on ground at most places in Karachi, and thus should have administer, policing and governing control of Karachi so that they can bring peace in Karachi.
MQM has a representation in Karachi, no doubt, but a lot of it is under duress.....Even Taliban could get 75% votes using tactics employed by MQM. Gen Zia got 99% votes in his referendum....Musharraf got a similar result.
MQM is a major presence in Karachi, but they need to sort themselves out, and quit their thuggery..and more importantly, quit crying when their rival gangs hit them the same way they do.
MQM has a representation in Karachi, no doubt, but a lot of it is under duress.....Even Taliban could get 75% votes using tactics employed by MQM. Gen Zia got 99% votes in his referendum....Musharraf got a similar result.
MQM is a major presence in Karachi, but they need to sort themselves out, and quit their thuggery..and more importantly, quit crying when their rival gangs hit them the same way they do.
You mean ... with army inside and outside the polling stations and also control of ballet papers and ballet seats ... people voted MQM under duress. :)
If you were talking about rural voters than there could be some sense but here you are talking about Karachi where people have free will and are educated and are willing to oppose what they do not like and is the only city that stood Ayub Khan or Bhutto (even though in 71 election they mostly voted PPP). So, do not make jokes, as in your this joke you overwrite every logic. :)
It is just like me saying that people voted PTI in KPK under duress. :)
You mean ... with army inside and outside the polling stations and also control of ballet papers and ballet seats ... people voted MQM under duress. :)
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Army was there to prevent disorder, not to serve as ROs. In any case, MQM's threatening behavior is not limited to polling stations only. It goes into people's homes, and that is no secret. You can defend the party all you want, but I am a first hand witness to the crimes of this party, so I do have authentic views about them.
Army was there to prevent disorder, not to serve as ROs. In any case, MQM's threatening behavior is not limited to polling stations only. It goes into people's homes, and that is no secret. You can defend the party all you want, but I am a first hand witness to the crimes of this party, so I do have authentic views about them.
Pata nahi ... MQM might be entering your home and threatening you ... but I and 1000s of my relatives and friends live in Karachi, but none got threatened.... and I also know 100s of people living in Karachi from various part of Pakistan and none I know complained that they get threatened by MQM visiting their home.
Anyhow ... can you put some light on what happened to PTI, JI, PMLN and PPP voters in May election or by-election ... why they did not turned up to vote?
Is it not shame that PTI got only 5000 votes compared to MQM who got over 50000 votes in NA 254 ... was their some sort of virus that was keeping them at home? :)
Yea kiya hua
Kaisay hua
Kewn ker hua kay
Kay ... PTI got only one-tenth of MQM votes ... on seat they wanted to win and thus made sure that no rigging happens with army in and out of polling stations? :)
Was it that MQM duress was effecting PTI voters even when army was there to save them? :)
