Re: Butcher of Lal Mosque
Did I wrote anything there that is wrong and not fact?
Can you please be kind enough to point out and tell me what I wrote is wrong?
Re: Butcher of Lal Mosque
Can anyone tell me what those armed guys were doing in the madrassa Hafsa (that was suppose to be only for girls)? Was it co-education going on there in Madressa? Were those guys mehram of girls there? What you think? What were those two brothers (Abdul Aziz and Avdul Rasheed) doing in that Madrassa amongst non-Mahram girls?
What were arms doing in that girl madrassa? Is it right to have arms (even few guns) in girls madrassa? (Or even in any madrassa?).
These girls (or na-mahram guys living with them and representing them) kidnapped men and took them to that girl's madrassa, so what they kidnapped men for? Is it allowed in Islam that girls kidnap na-mahram men and take them to their Madrassa? What type of hanky panky these girls wanted to do (or did) with kidnapped men they took to their girl madrassa?
To stop their this faihashi of kidnapping men and taking them in their madrassa, living with na-mahram men in there madrassa, what people of the area should have done? Was it duty of people of the area to kidnap these girls and ask them to repent, release na-mahram men they kidnapped for whatever reason, finish all their fahashi, and expel all guys from their madrassa?
Can anyone put some light on what was really going on in that girl madrassa behind the eyes of all decent people living in that area? What that madrassa was up to and what was happening to those girls living in that madrassa full of na-mahram young and healthy men? What hanky panky was going on inside? Is all whatever happening there was Islamic? Can anyone clear this ambiguity?
Seriously this post of yours need to be posted in the Lahore Zoo.
Re: Butcher of Lal Mosque
Seriously this post of yours need to be posted in the Lahore Zoo.
Well, I asked questions .. give answer, point out what I wrote is wrong, or keep quite. Why avoid valid questions? To say that my post need to be posted to lahore Zoo, means answer is given? :) Surely you cannot brush my questions aside, they are all valid questions.
Re: Butcher of Lal Mosque
U need serious help - blaming piousness of so many women with ur supposed hate..
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U need serious help - blaming piousness of so many women with ur supposed hate..
You mean to say that these girls had all the right to ask questions regarding others and when anyone is asking question about them, they became pious and so .. no question should be answered? .. Are you trying to tell jokes?:)
Yes, I do need help. I need help from their spokespersons to answer all the questions I asked.
Re: Butcher of Lal Mosque
saleem, on the face of it, they were putting up defences to fight the army. speculations do not allow us to think that they were having illegal relations with the girls.
But the thread is not about defending what they were doing but why government choose to take the most bloody option. once the agreement was being inked by the negotiators. why mush destroyed it. why kill so many people once you can get better results with less blood?
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^ Saleem also needs help where to post answers.. the thread is about killing on last day and hes stuck on girl!
Re: Butcher of Lal Mosque
The message is clear, government will only negotiate with you if you are strong enough to defy government otherwise you will be killed. That is the difference between Waziristan and Lal Mosque
Re: Butcher of Lal Mosque
saleem, on the face of it, they were putting up defences to fight the army. speculations do not allow us to think that they were having illegal relations with the girls.
But the thread is not about defending what they were doing but why government choose to take the most bloody option. once the agreement was being inked by the negotiators. why mush destroyed it. why kill so many people once you can get better results with less blood?
I never said or am speculating that these girls have/had any illegal relations with those guys there. I am Muslim and not like those retards, and thus do not accuse anyone without solid proofs. Neither I have any right or desire to accuse or assume such for anyone. That is why, since I do not like to assume or speculate, I asked questions.
Re: Butcher of Lal Mosque
The message is clear, government will only negotiate with you if you are strong enough to defy government otherwise you will be killed. That is the difference between Waziristan and Lal Mosque
On this I do agree, we need to hand Waziristan to America if we can't do the job ourselves. Hopefully they can also kill butcher of Karachi Nasrullah Babar.
Re: Butcher of Lal Mosque
well, it would be advisable that you raise the questions be opening another thread as the topic of the current thread is about last day savagery and killngs.
No sane person can defend what they were doing but is killing the only solution?
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As for killings .. well, to me those in that complex (Lal building and Madrassa) were criminals. What I can see from all news, that government did not wanted to kill them but wanted them to surrender. These criminals did not surrender even after number of days and then government had to act. Siege could not have lasted indefinitely. It was causing lot of mayhem in the area just because government was accommodating criminals for nothing.
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On this I do agree, we need to hand Waziristan to America if we can't do the job ourselves. Hopefully they can also kill butcher of Karachi Nasrullah Babar.
Great answer. Hand over Waziristan to USA. Karachi to India. etc etc.
So you accept what happened in karachi was buthchery
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On this I do agree, we need to hand Waziristan to America if we can't do the job ourselves. Hopefully they can also kill butcher of Karachi Nasrullah Babar.
You must belong to terrorist group MQM.
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Great answer. Hand over Waziristan to USA. Karachi to India. etc etc.
So you accept what happened in karachi was buthchery
I think Khehkeshan was talking about butchery in Karachi that happened in the hand of Naseer-ullah Baber against MQM :). I feel that the butchery you have in mind is different than of what Khehkehshan is refering too.
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As for killings .. well, to me those in that complex (Lal building and Madrassa) were criminals. What I can see from all news, that government did not wanted to kill them but wanted them to surrender. These criminals did not surrender even after number of days and then government had to act. Siege could not have lasted indefinitely. It was causing lot of mayhem in the area just because government was accommodating criminals for nothing.
I think you were not following the whole incident. Few hours before the negotiations, they reached a deal with Chaudary Shujat. But when he went to President House to get a final approval, Musharraf rejected it.
Re: Butcher of Lal Mosque
Instead of listening to the government, its better to read what ladies who were inside the Madrassah have to say about it.
http://www.dailyausaf.com/ausaf_new/detail.asp?category=qomi&id=10
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I think you were not following the whole incident. Few hours before the negotiations, they reached a deal with Chaudary Shujat. But when he went to President House to get a final approval, Musharraf rejected it.
That's anotehr lie of mullahs just like the lie of 14 rifles in madrassah.
Re: Butcher of Lal Mosque
No answer to my questions yet … Seems that there are many supporters of Lal complex terrorists but none are willing to stand for them by answering my valid questions 
Re: Butcher of Lal Mosque
No one needs to be spoon fed lies from pro mullah newspapers.