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Taken from a dawn blog article. Are people seriously bringing their maids to wait on their kids in restaurants in Pakistan??

I don’t remember seeing that growing up, is that some new thing? How awful! I don’t think I’d be able to eat seeing poor girls sitting next to tables waiting on the kids and not even being part of the meal.

Pakistani society has gotten super disgusting.

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I see it in Karachi all the time...the maid goes EVERYWHERE with the family to watch the kid(s)....shopping..restaurants...dawats

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Seriously? I've never seen this, well, at least never noticed it. But we also didn't go out much for fear that I'd get kidnapped, and we also don't have maids that stay with our families full time. Everyone takes care of their own kids, and maasi comes to help with morning safai at most.

I went to Pakistan and when I got to my daadi's house, my family there made sure that I had brought gifts for her, and that I sat and talked to her for a bit and then before leaving I was asked to give her some extra cash. I felt awful about her washing my clothes, felt it was not right to have her wash my undergarments so I did that myself.

Urgh.

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PCG..you'll be surprised. I have even seen same some posh Pakistani familities here doing same in Canada with having filipino maids. Why am i saying that..well..i have been to couple of dinners like that..where some other family had to bring their filipino maids.

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Interesting thread. I knew this already existed in super rich families in Pakistan. A lot of middle, upper middle class have maids but they don't take them everywhere. There are a lot of families in Mirpur who takes their maids everywhere even their families. PCG, it all depends on families as some respect their maids a lot, treating them like family while others are just opposite. So taking them out can be seen from different perspective.

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I think it is gud to take ur maid with u...for the maid's own sake
Firstly if I am keeping a girl to help look after my kids..I would look after her too And Not leave her alone at home.specially at night (When dawats or dinners happen) why firstlt because its not safe for a girl to be home alone.secondly because maids Also deserve to have Some outing

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Except this article describes how they're kept to a side, not allowed to sit with their matrons at the restaurant table, and not offered food...

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I saw this at a wedding once. Those people were obviously several rungs above us on the socioeconomic ladder. Maid took care of the kids, while the parents mingled. The maid did get to eat though.

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There is a news story almost every month, where some kid is tortured/killed by the lady of the house. These desi aunties can really be sadists....

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lolx, apko bht late pta lga iska :/:bummer:

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Yea its true. Happens all the time. Extremely sad.

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So sad. Ridiculous.

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To be fair taking maids everywhere with you is pretty common in the middle east too, so you can't just blame pakistanis. I've seen maids go with arab families on vacation to London, Malaysia, wherever they go. That being said I don't think the maids couldn't eat, they just had to take care of the kids while eating which is obviously tough. Believe the point is that the mum can eat in peace.

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Even if we estimate generously, those who can afford a full time maid in Pakistan are less than five percent of entire population, and not everyone who can afford something necessarily goes on to have it. Then there always are some decent people like OP who treat their servants well, no matter how bad the norms become.

So we are left with 1 to 2 % of Pakistanis, all rich, who lately have started ill-treating their servants which obviously is a pathetic trait. But this minority doesn’t represent or portray Pakistani society as a whole as its mindset and lifestyle is totally different from the poor and middle class Pakistani people.

I hardly get a chance to meet the elite. Do not often visit multinational fast food chains or multiple starred restaurants so not sure to what extent this story is correct. What I am certain about is, a great majority of the common people are yet to adopt this shameful behavior.

The moral of the speech is, a handful of wealthy families’ indecencies do not give us the right to negatively generalize an entire society with superlatives.

I have seen it even 12-13 years ago, in middle high class families. The family was invited at my sisters wedding. Lady entered the hall with maid following her, holding the back of gharara of the lady from dragging it on the ground

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Just a thought. How about if they have fed the maid and kids already?? What’s wrong with that in that case?

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But did you read the article? It's not about feeding or not feeding them in fact, it's about how they're treated like second class citizens. Not respected as employees, but rather, treated more like slaves. Except they get a little money for their hard work.

I mean these aunties sit there and talk about these girls, like a farmer would be talking about his cows. The dheet didn't give milk again this year!

I dunno, I mean, there are maid services in the US. Now I haven't ever used one, but I'm sure if I asked one to come in, she would come in for a few hours, charge me an arm and a leg, and she would not tolerate being talked to the way Pakistani women talk to their maids. You think a Mexican maid would deal with that attitude? She would give you a middle finger, crap in your toilet, and then leave you with a fat bill. And then her company would prolly threaten to take you to court if you didn't pay up.

I mean these little girls just get pushed around, and it's the smallest things that make them happy. I remember a little girl - a daughter of one of the maasis - that came over during the summer with her mom, and her mom would work her, and so I asked if she be spared, and let the girl play with my sister and cousin who were her age. Her mom made some faces, but reluctantly agreed, since we weren't ok with child labor. So, the little girl sat there with us, and my sister would teach her ABC's, and they would do pottery work together. I have NEVER seen such a HAPPIER kid.

And these basic things that we give our children, these maasis can't give their families. A nice dress, a perfume, a lipstick, they get so excited about this stuff.

I dunno, if someone talked to me like that and I was babysitting their kid, I wouldn't take it, and I'm sure you girls wouldn't either.

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That’s really pathetic. High Class logon ki Low Class baatain :disgust:

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Then why bring them along?

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Probably a security issue in leaving them at home without the people of the house, kids getting kidnapped for ransom, etc.