Bush Mush da phone nayee chokda!

Resign or face the consequences, Musharraf told
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So things are looking pretty bad for Musharraf, and the talk of the town is how great President Bush is no longer coming to the rescue! Thank you Bush! Read part in bold please.*

ISLAMABAD: The top PPP leadership has clearly told important Western diplomatic emissaries, who recently met the party’s Co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari in Islamabad, that if President Musharraf did not resign by Monday evening, the government would not be in a position to provide him a safe exit and he may be placed on the Exit Control List (ECL).

Deputy Chief of Mission of the US Embassy Peter Body called on Zardari along with two other important officials who had come from Washington to discuss Musharraf’s fate two days ago, competent sources told The News.

Though media reports claiming that US Ambassador Anne Patterson had met Asif Zardari proved to be incorrect as she was outside Pakistan and was expected to return late on Sunday, US Embassy sources confirmed Peter Body met the PPP leader as the charge d’Affaires in her absence.

Lou Fintor, press attache of the US embassy, told The News: “We cannot confirm or deny the meeting but we regularly meet with a variety of Pakistani officials, though we do not generally discuss the substance of these meetings.”

Diplomatic sources say the coalition leaders have cautioned Western capitals that any effort or appeal from their governments in favour of a dictator would not be welcomed. There are reports in Washington that an urgent message has been sent by the Pakistani authorities to the US president through unidentified diplomatic channels that Musharrafís name would be put on the ECL immediately after the impeachment and the new elected government would not be in a position to provide him with a safe exit.

Musharraf still has one safe option. He must resign from his office before 5pm on Monday (August 11). In that case, the media and the civil society would not press too hard to produce him in a court of law. If he is not willing to resign and the proceedings of parliament start at 5pm, he would have to face not only the impeachment motion but also trial on a number of criminal charges.

The top leaders of the new ruling coalition in Islamabad have informed some Western diplomats that they had solid evidence of corruption and embezzlement against the president and some of his close family members.

A large number of PPP members also want to investigate Musharraf for his alleged role in the assassination of Benazir Bhutto. One PPP member of the National Assembly is ready to show an e-mail of late Benazir Bhutto sent to CNN’s Wolf Blitzer that if anything happens to her, Musharraf should be held responsible.

Coalition leaders Asif Ali Zardari and Nawaz Sharif are determined to turn the most trusted friend of America in Pakistan into an example because they are sure that the Army is no longer supporting Musharraf.

They understand that if the Army is claiming to be neutral, nobody except Bush is in a position to save him. They would like to send a clear message to Bush, and may already have sent it through discreet channels, that his interference in the politics of Pakistan will spread more anti-Americanism in the only Muslim nuclear power in the world, so he should not call anyone in Pakistan to save Musharraf.

**But the key question as to why US President George W Bush is refusing to take phone calls by his ‘tight buddy’ General (retd) Pervez Musharraf, making him a really angry man, is being discussed at every private sitting and every drawing room in Islamabad. The president is not just disappointed with Bush, he is also not happy with some of his old friends in uniform.

Informed insiders say Musharraf has tried to call his American buddy many times in the last few days but in vain as Bush is not available. Why Bush is not coming on the line may be obvious to all those who know how Washington changes its policies, and turns its eyes away from people who are no longer in a position to serve its interests.

They know that Musharraf would not have good news of the arrest ofOsama bin Laden or Mullah Omer when he calls. He would only have some bad news about himself and would want to tell Bush that Al-Qaeda, the Taliban and the ruling coalition in Pakistan have united against him. He would ask Bush to help him in the name of the war against terror but the lines to the US president are not responding.**

A prominent leader of the pro-Musharraf Pakistan Muslim League-Q disclosed that Pervez Musharraf was disappointed not only with Bush but also with the Army leadership which is not coming out openly to rescue their “supreme commander” from the “dirty hands of ‘bloody civilians’.î

PML-Q sources claimed that initially Musharraf was thinking of resigning from office and wanted to become the president of the PML-Q. A lady member of the National Assembly started campaigning within the party three days ago that Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain should resign from the party presidentship and offer to make Musharraf head of the party which was actually created in 2002 by Musharraf with the help of the ISI. A big majority of the PML-Q leaders rejected this proposal and advised Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain to stay away from Musharraf who was no longer an asset but a liability.

Another friend of Musharraf recently proposed to him to join the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) of Altaf Hussain. This party is capable of providing him some political cover. Some of his close relatives are already reported to be MQM members.

This MQM link of Musharraf was reinforced by Benazir Bhutto as well when she wrote in her autobiography: “I first encountered Musharraf when he acted as a Turkish interpreter during visits by the Turkish military. I declined to make him my military secretary. We initially refused him a promotion because of his suspected links with the MQM. The final time I recall meeting with him was the most important, when in 1996 he presented to me a war scenario for Kashmir.”

One thing is clear that the main strength of Musharraf was not his enlightened moderation but his military uniform and after taking off this uniform he is now a burden for everyone. It was Musharraf who assigned General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani to get in touch with Benazir Bhutto two years ago when Kayani was DG of the ISI.

Kayani realised soon that the involvement of Army officers in politics was not good for the institution and for the country. Though Musharraf also said the same thing but his actions always contradicted his words.

He is no more Army chief but he is still living in the Army House of Rawalpindi. He has declared it as the President’s Camp Office. He is continuously meeting leaders of the PML-Q there even after their humiliating defeat in the February elections. He never respected the verdict of the people expressed through the ballot. His “forced” stay in the Army House is generally not liked by many Army officers.

Many officers think that Musharraf’s meetings with anti-government politicians in the Army House are meant to give the impression that the Army is still with him, which is not a fact.

According to reliable sources, Army circles have informally sent messages to Musharraf that his time was over and he must resign now in the “supreme national interest”.

Many Army officers support the non-political approach of their new chief and think that Musharraf was their leader for eight years due to his rank and position, not because of his person. As he has lost the rank, he must leave the position of president.

One of Musharraf’s close friends, who is also an important officer, recently advised him privately that though he may still be very popular in Washington and New Delhi but he is no more popular in his own country and now is the time that he must resign as the Army could not support him for another five years. Army officers want a total de-politicisation of their institution and want to contribute to the making of a new democratic Pakistan.

Re: Bush Mush da phone nayee chokda!

dost dost na raha, pyar pyar naa raha!

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:rotfl:

The master is no longer helping his puppet?

Mush is making a big fool of himself before he is kicked out

:D

WASHINGTON: The opening ceremony at the Beijing Olympics could well mark the closing bell for Pakistan’s beleaguered military](Friend in need? US may've had enough of Mush - Times of India) strongman Pervez Musharraf, unless his chief patron in Washington intervenes. No sign of that.

The Bush administration kept a tight silence on Thursday as Pakistan’s bumbling civilian leaders moved to impeach their nemesis in a situation fraught with suspense. All action on the international front seemed confined to the background, especially in Washington, where Musharraf still has loyal support for the services he is said to have rendered in the war on terror.

Expectations that Musharraf would metaphorically fall at Bush’s feet in Beijing at the Olympic opening ceremony looks unlikely since the once-powerful military ruler has had to scrub his trip - either because the civilian government forced him to or because he was too afraid to go lest he not be allowed to return. The reports out of Islamabad are confusing to say the least, with even the Pakistani foreign office seemingly caught between the dictates of the military presidency and the civilian government.

The latest reports indicate that PM Yousaf Raza Gilani, who met Bush in Washington only last week, would represent Pakistan in Beijing. A Bush-Gilani meeting could decide Musharraf’s fate one way or the other, if the civilian prime minister follows up on his message to the US president in Washington last week that the military ruler is now “irrelevant” to Pakistan.

The Bush administration has strongly backed Musharraf for several months now although the support has noticeably cooled off following the electoral rout of Musharraf and the PML-Q party that he patronized. But as recently as June, US assistant secretary of state Richard Boucher, whose dozen visits to Pakistan in less than a year marked him out as the country’s new ‘viceroy,’ (a nickname once given to US ambassadors) advised Pakistan’s newly-elected leadership to let Musharraf be and concentrate on issues of governance.

The Bush administration now seems ready to dump the man it long regarded as a bulwark in the war on terror, particularly after recent reports about the ISI’s continued support for the Taliban and other terrorist elements in Pakistan. The ISI is currently headed by Nadeem Taj, a distant relative of Musharraf who the military ruler hand-picked to head the spy agency. The US has a long and rich history of dumping military dictators when their position becomes untenable.

The situation now boils down to which way another of Musharraf’s hand-picked minions, army chief Ashfaq Kiyani, swings. If Kiyani and his key corps commanders decide to support Musharraf, then he can stare down the civilian leadership and perhaps even dismiss them from office if push comes to shove.

If Kiyani decides that he and the military cannot face political and public pressure, and if Washington gives no signal, then they can talk and walk Musharraf out of office, in the same way Ayub Khan was. Pakistan’s fate once again rests between its army and America.

^^^He is lucky as his 'dost' has just asked him to resign. Normally Uncle Sam's 'dost' vanish in thin air while travelling in c-130.:D

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This further proves my point of view, as conveyed many times previously:

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/291393-86-per-cent-think-pakistan-headed-wrong-direction-post5950414.html#post5948918
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/291393-86-per-cent-think-pakistan-headed-wrong-direction-post5950414.html#post5950414

US only favors incapable rulers in Pakistan, and right now the new government seems to have fulfilled the role very well.

Is that why Mush was supported from 1999 till now? :D

After 8 years of favoring Mushys incapable Tushy, Bushy has had enough of him. This is because Mush’s love for his kursi was making him incompetent, for the US.

You should be the least of people bragging about this news. It was you on this forum for months crying about Musharraf being a puppet of US and US backing up Musharraf. Now here is official news directly contradicting your opinion, and suddenly you have a change in opinion.

The fact is, like I’ve mentioned many times, US thought that Musharraf would be another tyrant, so it gave Pakistan ally status along with loans. But after 2 terms economic boom & the fastest development rate in history, US had no choice but to find a way to dispose him.

We’ve seen US gradually distancing itself from Musharraf - its not something that happened over night. Your opinion however has changed over night.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/291393-86-per-cent-think-pakistan-headed-wrong-direction-2.html

You are pathetic!

Exactly! Well said :k:

Almost everyone in our political scene and military regime is a US puppet, that is a given. Now why US changed its mind about Mushy? It probably has to do more with his crocodile tears and double game than any economic gain Pakistan has made.

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hahaha! LKC, please calm down and no need to resort to personal attacks. After 8 years, there is no US to save Musharraf's kursi, atleast thats what it looks like now. Can you explain why Musharraf is making calls and hopeing Bush will answer? Maybe he wants advice to take care of his lisp right?

Which opinion changed? I said Musharraf was america’s pet months ago, and still saying the same. However, you need to realize sometimes pets arent given a royal treatment, especially if they become senile.

p.s. atleast you now admit that the US has distanced itself from Musharraf :hehe: previously musharraf was referred to you as some sort of khalifah acting in the itnerests of islam and pakistan.

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Zardari has now taken Mush's place as junior viceroy of Bush n co.

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why Bush is not picking up his phone?
Because Bush is in china.
why Musharraf not trying Bush's cell phone?
Because Bush did'nt have GSM ... so stupid of him. Phones not working in china anymore

Elaborate.

So what if he is making calls to US? Whats wrong with that?

This opinion:

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/293802-bush-mush-da-phone-nayee-chokda.html#post5991841

Not too long ago you were vigorously arguing with us that the US wants Musharraf to stay in power, as can be seen by your posts quoted above. Then suddenly you have a change in opinion. The only thing I can speculate is that you don’t even know whats going on and are here just to vilify Musharraf.

I’ve been saying for a very long time that the US doesn’t trust Musharraf & don’t want him in power.

Please provide proper referrences.

US wanted Mush to fight militants and AlQaida in FATA and stop any support they have from inside Pakistan but Mush 'd throw a bomb here and there making claims that he is fighting'em. If US had to stop Mush support because of too much economic growth then they'd had to do it somewhere in 2003-2005, not in 2007 and 2008 when things were going down already.

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LKC :hehe:

So how does that make Musharraf a US-puppet?

Why in 2003-2005?

Why don't you think about what would have happened to the coalition forces in land-locked Afghanistan, had US stopped supporting Musharraf?