Bush administration opposes Pakistan linked-aid bill

I think this is a great bill and hope it passes. Our generals need to have their strings pulled now and again, otherwise they will go back to supporting jihadism.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070201/pl_nm/pakistan_usa_dc_1

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - The U.S. administration is opposed to provisions of a bill now in the hands of Congress which would link military aid for Pakistan to its efforts to tackle the Taliban, the U.S. embassy said.
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Concern has mounted over Taliban sanctuaries in Pakistan, from where the Islamist militants last year orchestrated the bloodiest violence in neighboring
Afghanistan since 2001.

Pakistan says it is doing all it can to stop militants infiltrating Afghanistan, but the U.S. military says cross-border attacks in Afghan border areas increased sharply last year.

Both Pakistan and Afghanistan are major U.S. allies in the war on terrorism.

The U.S. bill, known as H.R. 1, calls for an end to U.S. military assistance to Pakistan if it fails to stop the Taliban operating from its territory.

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I think this is a great bill and hope it passes. Our generals need to have their strings pulled now and again, otherwise they will go back to supporting jihadism.
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Get over this jihad.mollah-o-pheobia, and while ure at it, try to get over that punjabo-pheobia too!

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It's called reality, notice the suicide bombings and attacks recently?

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so its the generals fault? lol seriously man, just because the army in the past phantified your beloved MQM doesnt mean you have to believe everything that 'the hindu' publishes about them.

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Still worried about the MQM and hindus when ISI sponsored mullahs are blowing up Pakistanis? It's been reported both in local and international media about Western Pakistan being a haven for Taliban and Al qaeda under the support of the military establishment. The reality does not get any clearer but some people will try to find other scapegoats like hindus, jews, or in your case, MQM.

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Its only a matter of time before America returns to its old ways... Soon the Democrats will take ovdr the White house and end their cooperation with Pakistan...
I see it as a good thing, if it happens we should extricate ourselves from this war on terror and leave to them to fight.

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Whenever the republicans have been in the white house, they have consistently suported pakistan in forms of miltary deals/aid, but whenever the dems take over, its all gone. so overall, replublicans in power are actually better for pakistan.

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all your anti-pakistani/punjabi rhetoric is all based on what your beloved leader thinks. Yeah if it makes you feel better, it was the ISI who perpetrated the WTC attacks. This amazing ISI sure has its danda up so many rears to make everyone cry in pain, I hope they continue to do that.

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Pakistan today is associated most with terrorism today because of:

a) MQM
b) Hindus/Jews
c) Army/ISI

Who is today making peace deals with Taliban? What good has come out of it? Think Spock, think!

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I dont care what Pakistan is associated with, do you expect me to believe all the Indians who associate Pakistan with all sorts of junk do it because of any credibility? No, and niether do you, you do it because of your leaders's views.

And yeah, its clear that taking pangaz with these tribals isnt the best thing to do, regardless of what the US (who is already getting an ass whooping on there on by the eye-Iraqiz) thinks, and the Government should infact carve out a peace process with the tribals, leave them in peace, and they'll stop harming the Government and its people. All you fundo-phoebic people, you can continue to shed tears though.

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LOL.. But I hate everything else they do… I dont know who to vote for!

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^ The best approach is to end our reliance on their aid, after that we wont care about who wins, but we have a long way to go if we are to get there.

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Is there a better solution? I mean, Pakistanis dont have the luxury of having an entire ocean seperating them from terrorists… Whatever Pak does in Waziristan effects the entire country. Fighting the taiban obviously wasnet working either, I mean you know as well as I do that fighting them would only lead to more civilian death and thus lead to even more problems.

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Oh yeah, Pakistan shouldnt have anything to do with this war on terror. Its a one sided battle. Pakistan needs to look out for its own intrests, and our intrests are to simply try to contain and eventually kill of the Taliban slowly, focus on the economy, education and other social indicators… At most we should try not to let anyone into Afghainstan, thats IT.

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You people just don't get it do you? Look at what is happening in Iraq and come to your senses. It will become a matter of life and death for many people and you are worried about what the Taliban will think of you? If you don't kill them now, they will only get emboldened and it will be too late when they start beheading and bombing your families and friends in our cities.

We have been down this road before, look what happened when we encouraged madrassa culture and what came of it. And now you all want to go back to appeasement? When will we learn from our history and listen to visionary leaders like Altaf Hussain who warned of the mullah threat while the whole country was parading mullahs on their shoulders like heroes. Who was right in the end? Get over your egos and think of the danger that is looming.

You can’t win the hearts and minds of the current jihadis, you can of the fewer generations but only after you kill of the current terrorists and their infrastructure. If it appears even a little that they have won the fight like it does in Waziristan, then the fight is over before it has even really begun.

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When will we learn from our history and listen to visionary leaders like Altaf Hussain who warned of the mullah threat while the whole country was parading mullahs on their shoulders like heroes. Who was right in the end? Get over your egos and think of the danger that is looming.
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hahahah an ugly thug who ordered the torture, rape and killing of innocents is hardly a visionary! Sheesh, how can you even call him your ameer/Peer/GaddiNasheem? You just proved whatever I said about saying what your leader tells you to say.

And yeah, I do look at Iran, they are standing up and showing a HUGE middle finger to the US, and they have a right to do so. Like I said, that hog boss Altaf can cry all he wants, if he is such a visinory, maybe he can try coming to Pakistan and taking on the mollahs. Your anti-mollah rant is solely based on the fact that the MMA is the MQMs biggest rival. I just hope we eradicate both these scums in due time.

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Laugh all you want but we all know that your boss Musharraf is making peace deals with Taliban that will destroy Pakistan if not checked on by his American handlers.

If it weren't for all those who have fought against the mullahs in Karachi and elsewhere, we would already have been forced to grow beards and wear turbans long ago. Iraq's future is what awaits any country that does not move to eradicate jihadis with all its force before they can gain a foothold. Why do you want that for Pakistan? Do you hate your country that much?

The progressive elements are the only hope for Pakistan and you want to kill them off. This shows your true colors.

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hahah yeah right, the MQM is not the saviour of PAkistan, biggest joke ever posted here! The MQM is no better than those jihadi mollah boogie men that you talk about, aik hi tarha key keerey hain dono, the only difference is that those mollahs have the guts to face the music while your leader hides in exile. Oh and you know what, since you refer to uncle mush as my boss, do you know that I used to think uncle mush allowing the mqm to win a few seats was a dumb move, but now that I think of it, it was a smart move, hes tamed them to an extent that they can only 'bark' now, and they wont be able to kill innocent civilians like they used to back in the 90s (in other words they cant bite anymore).

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you have to make sure to differentiate between the different types of 'taliban'. Offcourse there are some who support al-qaeda/terorism etc, and they are scrum, but there arent too many of them. Alot of the tribals have learnt that supporting terrorism is not in their best intrest.
Most of the tribals really want is a Pashtun dominated government in Afghanistan, you have to know, that Northern Alliance/farsiwaans took control of Afghanistan and gave basically no role to the pashtun majoirty who are concenstrated in the south and south-west of afghanistan. ALot of propagangda is going on by the Northern Alliance governemtn in afghanistan who lalbel peopel who support a pashtun dominated government in afghanistan as terroists, which is wrong. Even now you can see that the farsiwaans controled government has basicaly no law and order. Drug production in afghanistan is at an alltime high, the so called afghani governments reach of power doesnt extend from more then the city limits of kabul. pashtun dominated governments have always kept law, and order and peace. it was the pashtuns who finaly brought peace to civil war in afganistan, it was them who curbed drug production. the socio-ppoltical situation in those areas is VERY complicated, and one had to do a great deal of research to fully understand it.

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Keep on laughing and worrying about MQM while people are stoned to death and beheaded in the tribal areas with the army powerless to do anything.

Musharraf just admitted in an interview that his border troops let the taliban cross. This will come back to bite Pakistan even more so than the Afghan jihad. It’s a sad situation while you remain obsessed by the boogeyman of MQM.