Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
Kaleem your conservative 'morals' are shining through in this thread.
How do you suggest these poor people were to evacuate before the storm? Or did you send them all a bus ticket and make their hotel reservations? Did you also give them money to feed themselves while away from their homes? There was NO GOVERNMENT PLAN to evacuate these peope who had no means.
To label them all as thugs or lesser humans than the great pious shining example of humans such as yourself is actually a great example of the conservative mindset.
Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
^ OG, I might agree with you with the whole denial element but there are certain facts to the slow response, inadequate protection, inadequate contingency planning and completely inadequate leadership from the federal gov't that is making a mockery of th erichest an dth emost powerful nation in the world. This is the sad point.
To say that people like to stay home in face or warning as a result of denial, doesn't take away from the fact that US Air Force reserve troops based 60 miles away were playing basketball and doing calisthenics when they should have been ordered to set up camp in NO. (read today's Paul Krugman in NYT) or that this president is completely oblivious to why a NATIONAL guard is necessary in America. Precisely, It is for dmoestic security not a fcking pool of soldiers for the Pentagon to masturbate with. I expect siht like this in third world countries like India, France and Canada. Not the US.
Keep the friggin Ntional guard ot guard the nation, carpet bomb the siht out of basra if you have to to get rid of the friggin terrorists. This is what I want.
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PA, I did not know that supporting and upkeep of levees was Federal Govt.'s job? So bush took the funds away from which projetcs that caused that? It seems that you guys dont get it. You can hate bush all you want, but he is doing everything he can to help the people.
Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
Case in point - finally now (after how many days?) trucks are coming into the city in hoards with supplies. Also the national guard is flooding in finally the way they should have done day ONE.
And finally, after how many days?, Air Force One is landing in the area - the President is finally seeing things - after like a week of utter chaos. What an idiot - he should have been there asap.
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Hey you asshole Madhanee, listen I have helped teh folks who are coming here form NO, your arse living up in NY cannot claim to do that. So you had one guy telling you the situation. I have spoken to many people who came from NO. So SFUP you pathetic old soul, your crap is worthless as usual.
Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
By flying over the area in Air Force One days after the event? By sending the National Guard to foreign lands instead of staying here to protect our citizens? By sending a trickle of the remaining NG while people are dying? By having no coordinated plan to feed, move or even communicate with the people swimming for their lives? Really, I want to know. What in the hell has he done?
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Of course its a racial issue. The demographics of the area is INDEPENDENT of relief efforts that should be in place, and preventive efforts that should have been in place.
The protectors are not African Americans. They are predominantly caucasian government officials.
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Are you this thick? I mean seriously? Trust us, we do get it. If you think it’s not the fed’s job then it’s a small wonder you think Dubya is doing all he can to help people.
First he strumms his guitar and then eats a cake.
Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
I did not label all of them thugs or lesser humans…I said soem of them were involved in such activities. Let me give you some other example of my conservative morals. I will be volunteering tonight at the Astrodome to help deliver the food and supplies with one of the local charities…
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And we'll be donating money to relief efforts. So what is your point? If you are volunteering there, you should know first hand how bad the situation is. Unless if you've never been in a hurricane and you've never seen how FEMA is supposed to work, and how the government is supposed to work.
Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
Well, let's face facts, no city in this country is prepared for complete evacuation. Even with 2 or 3 days notice, it is virtually impossible to do, there are not enough cops to go door to door and drag everyone out. Never mind a city that is below sea level that was never built for the size storm that exists. All along NO and the state had the option to spend thier own money to build systems over the last 50 years. They didn't. Most disaster plans sit on shelves and collect dust, and when things do happen, there is always a bizzare twist like a levy letting go that is simply chaos theory at work.
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Ready for this Kaleem ? Guess whos responsible for the levees. Certainly not the State.
"Flood-control funds short of requests
By Andrew Martin and Andrew Zajac Washington Bureau
Thu Sep 1, 9:40 AM ET
Despite continuous warnings that a catastrophic hurricane could hit New Orleans, the Bush administration and Congress in recent years have repeatedly denied full funding for hurricane preparation and flood control.
That has delayed construction of levees around the city and stymied an ambitious project to improve drainage in New Orleans’ neighborhoods.
For instance, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers requested $27 million for this fiscal year to pay for hurricane-protection projects around Lake Pontchartrain. The Bush administration countered with $3.9 million, and Congress eventually provided $5.7 million, according to figures provided by the office of U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu (news, bio, voting record) (D-La.)."
Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
Hey dopey ass, you sure that levees are maintained by Fed. Givt. Like you said, show me where it says that Federal Govt is responsible for it…you little a-hole.
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They can certainly do a complete evacuation. Its done in Miami beach areas all the time. And that is with minimal buses, etc.
They could have easily had lines of buses moving along out of the city and they could have created a speciifc route for them so that they can use it without facing any traffic from cars evacuating. It could totally have been done.
If not a complete evacuation, then a majority evacuation. There was no need for people to be sitting in their homes. Everyone knew NO would be essentially wiped out when that hurricane left florida and started quickening to a FIVE.
Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
Your conservative bias reeks of ignorance. Repeat after me: I am a republiturd.
I am sure the negroes will forever be indebted to you for your generous charity.
Still awaits eagerly for the links or pics on the bus services for mandatory evacuation of thugging negroes before Katrina.
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Kaleem, there is an article that is posted - they needed cash from the gov't which the gov't didnt give.
Seriously, I think this Kaleem guy sits in Lahore or some place farting out of his behind - he most likely doesn't have a clue what is going on. Volunteering in disaster areas my behind.
Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
5Abi, you need to read my prior posts on the Corps of Engineers. When Bush came into office there was a backlog of nearly 40 years of construction projects ($52Billion) that were approved, but never funded. The Corps and it's projects were a mess of pork barrel projects. A bridge in Alaska got built for $247 to go over to a nearly unoccupied island. Why? Two powerful Senators from Alaska that got it funded.
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5abi, I love it…so the article points out that funds were refused. Now let me ask you this…are the NO residents this thick that they cannot raise the money themsleves to protect their own arse. Why didn’t the state govt do anything? Why blame everything on the Bush?
I was listening to another resident of NO on the local radio…who described how an overwhelmingly vot of NO was catsed to build levees/walls to protect the city by the citizen/voters. So when the things go bad…blame Federal Govt. is a nice way out.
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OG, while you are philosophizing as to the merits of contingency planning, you might take note of why the disparity in racial and socio economic impact to the storm. Any clue?
Back people like to love their houses more? Black people don’t understand dangerous weather calamities? tell me what is it.
And chaos theory all good and well, but it doesn;t address the slow response. Don’t blame the people blame the authorities. Doing a fking flyby? are you kidding me?
