Re: Burqa becomes focus of tense debate in Europe
Men's obsession with niqab and hijab and women. lol
Why don't we see any woman posting in this thread(except me of course)?
Why do men have to decide what a woman can wear and what not?
Men's obsession with niqab and hijab and women. lol
Why don't we see any woman posting in this thread(except me of course)?
Why do men have to decide what a woman can wear and what not?
Sure enough ----- I myself believe that Burqa and Niqab are signs of backward mentality and consider them unnecessary as long as women are respectably dressed ----- however in Europe ----- things as benign as Burqa and Niqab are erroneously taken way out of proportion and ambiguously considered signs of oppression and psychological leanings of an individual or a group toward political and or radical Islam ----- hence a would-be terrorist is likely to be shrouded or VEILED ----- within such group.
I have been fighting for woman's rights in this forum with the help of only one male member. My views ----- to leave it up to the women to decide how to conduct themselves and what to wear were probably widely misunderstood.
Violence against women is tolerated in the name of tradition all over the world. Woman's oppression is universal. Those who want to help address this sorry state of affairs should start not by telling Muslim women how to dress, but by tackling the root causes of this oppression both at home and abroad: discrimination, lack of access to services, and unequal economic opportunities.
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none of the above examples do any of the people cover their faces
We are going to get technical now are we? ----- alright ----- so be it ----- this issue is not about being able to cover faces or not but ----- it is about freedom to chose.
A legal ban on Burqa and Niqab in Europe would be just as much a violation of the rights of those women who wish to wear it ----- as it is the compulsion of the veil on those women who do not wish to wear it ----- such as in, Iran or Saudi Arabia. Muslim women should have the right to be dressed as they choose to as long as it is within religious parameters, to make decisions about their lives and religion ----- whether we like it and support those choices or not.
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We are going to get technical now are we? ----- alright ----- so be it ----- this issue is not about being able to cover faces or not but ----- it is about freedom to chose.
Do I get the choice to carry a gun aboard a plane ? What if I guarantee that I am just transporting it and will not use it on the plane ?
Covering one's face is a security risk, so the question of choice does not arise.
Do I get the choice to carry a gun aboard a plane ? What if I guarantee that I am just transporting it and will not use it on the plane ?
Covering one's face is a security risk, so the question of choice does not arise.
Sir ----- you seem to mystified by the difference between freedom of religion and criminal activities!
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We are going to get technical now are we? ----- alright ----- so be it ----- this issue is not about being able to cover faces or not but ----- it is about freedom to chose.
A legal ban on Burqa and Niqab in Europe would be just as much a violation of the rights of those women who wish to wear it ----- as it is the compulsion of the veil on those women who do not wish to wear it ----- such as in, Iran or Saudi Arabia. Muslim women should have the right to be dressed as they choose to as long as it is within religious parameters, to make decisions about their lives and religion ----- whether we like it and support those choices or not.
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Right to wear a burka suppresses my right of Safety and proper identifications
Tinted windows are banned on cars because Police cannot see inside the car.
Ski Masks are banned in banks and other secured areas because video cameras are unable to pick up the faces.
Burka is banned on similar grounds. Most muslim women don't wear burkas, those that do are either forced to wear it by their male relatives or are too uneducated to know that it has nothing to do with Islam.
Are you going to support child marriages and female genital mutilation as well because they are all customs practiced in India and Africa?
Criminal activities ?? What about my right to bear arms ?
OK, I will make this easy for you - will a Sikh be permitted to carry a “kirpaan” aboard a plane or inside a bank ? “Kirpaan” is more of a religious symbol for Sikhs than a “burqa” is for Muslims.
Re: Burqa becomes focus of tense debate in Europe
Calm down guys!
I don't think any government or men should make a choice if women should or should not cover their head/face. I think only women should make this choice and everyone else should respect their choice.
Banning burqa/nikab is same as imposing a burqa/nikab rule.
question? Do parents have a right to have their kids wear burqa? It is very common in middle east. What age should someone decide on whether they are in for a full body garment or not? Should it have a better color so atleast it does not absorb much heat inside. What better source of vitamin D should we prescribe for covered women?
Middle Eastern women may have vitamin D deficiency | Reuters
"As reported in the June issue of the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Saadi and colleagues at the United Arab Emirates University, Al Ain, studied vitamin D levels in 90 women who were breastfeeding and 88 women who had never given birth. Many dressed to cover their whole bodies, including their hands and faces, while outside of their homes.Only two of the women, one in each group, were not vitamin D deficient at study. All the women were randomly assigned to receive 2000 IU of vitamin D2 daily or 60,000 IU in one dose each month. The investigators note that vitamin D2 is the only high-dose calciferol available in the UAE.
Although both monthly and daily dosing significantly and safely increased vitamin D levels, only 21 of the 71 women (30 percent) who completed the 3-month study reached the recommended blood levels.
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“Kirpaan” would be considered a weapon ----- where as Niqab would be considered a guileless piece of clothing that could not be used to harm innocent people hence your analogy does not seem to hold water -----
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Calm down guys!
I don't think any government or men should make a choice if women should or should not cover their head/face. I think only women should make this choice and everyone else should respect their choice.
Banning burqa/nikab is same as imposing a burqa/nikab rule.
Thank you ----- very well said indeed ----- I myself could not have said it any better than what you have stated here -----
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“Kirpaan” would be considered a weapon ----- where as Niqab would be considered a guileless piece of clothing that could not be used to harm innocent people hence your analogy does not seem to hold water -----
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I disagree....Kirpaan is a weapon and I would support its ban...
Burka is a security issue as much as Tinted windows on Cars or people wearing Ski Masks into banks
Re: Burqa becomes focus of tense debate in Europe
About time we tell Sikhs to get rid of their turbans as well. You never know if they might have a bomb in there. 
Right to wear a burka suppresses my right of Safety and proper identifications
Tinted windows are banned on cars because Police cannot see inside the car.
Ski Masks are banned in banks and other secured areas because video cameras are unable to pick up the faces.
Burka is banned on similar grounds. Most muslim women don't wear burkas, those that do are either forced to wear it by their male relatives or are too uneducated to know that it has nothing to do with Islam.
Are you going to support child marriages and female genital mutilation as well because they are all customs practiced in India and Africa?
You seem to be aimlessly hopping around the world but France with references such as Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights of the Constitution of the United States ----- Then you jumped to tinted windows ----- which are not outlawed everywhere in the U.S. ----- as a matter of fact most Minivans are shipped with tinted windows within the U.S. then you went to Africa with genital mutilation -----
I think we are not on the same page regarding the configurations of Burqa/Burka ----- Do you picture a shuttlecock ----- so to speak ----- that is worn by women in NWFP and Afghanistan when you picture a Burqa/Burka just a simple YES/NO?.
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I disagree....Kirpaan is a weapon and I would support its ban...
Burka is a security issue as much as Tinted windows on Cars or people wearing Ski Masks into banks
Disagree with what????.
As any where in the world would be ----- parents do have the right to set religious, moral and social parameters for their children and I don’t think that it would be considered too much to ask would it? ----- as far as wearing a Niqab by a child is concerned ----- some would perhaps require their underage daughters to wear Niqab and some would leave it up to the child ----- different strokes for different folks so to speak.
I am sure that you are aware of the procedure for Statistical Research known as ----- Statistical Hypothesis Testing ----- a mode of making Statistical decisions using research data ----- which is composed of multiple studies such as Null Hypothesis which is an other form of Hypothesis within the Statistical Hypothesis Testing ----- the Null Hypothesis typically possesses a default position such as absence of relationship between two quantities that might be falsified on the basis of observed data ----- I just do not understand possibility of concluding statistical significance of something for a whole region just by testing 90 women ----- DO YOU?. ----- Simple ----- YES/NO?.
Vitamin D is a group of fat soluble pro hormones ----- which is naturally produced by human body through the exposure to direct sunlight however geographical whereabouts of people affect Vitamin D synthesis in the skin ----- in other words a person living in an average of 80 F all year around is not likely to be Vitamin D deficient then a person living in smoggy, rainy and cold place where sun does not shine often ----- as your friend David Douglas does not seem to know that in Middle East the average all year round temperature during the day is around 100 F and above which makes sun rays penetrate clothing ----- besides Vitamin D can also be obtained through food sources such as Fatty Fish, eggs and supplements such as Cod Liver oil which are widely used in the Middle East.
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“Kirpaan” would be considered a weapon ----- where as Niqab would be considered a guileless piece of clothing that could not be used to harm innocent people hence your analogy does not seem to hold water -----
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Its not the burqa, but whats behind the burqa that could be used to harm innocent people aka security risk.
How is a suicide bomber behind a burqa less harmful than a Sikh carrying a kirpaan ?
Its not the burqa, but whats behind the burqa that could be used to harm innocent people aka security risk.
How is a suicide bomber behind a burqa less harmful than a Sikh carrying a kirpaan ?
Just be honest how many women with veil have you seen so far carrying out terrorist attacks?????.
Just be honest how many women with veil have you seen so far carrying out terrorist attacks?????.
How many Sikhs with kirpaans have you seen carrying out terrorist attacks ?
You are going to be a doctor, right ? Ever heard of "prevention is better than cure " ??