**A French parliament report has called for a ban on the burqa in schools, hospitals, government offices and public transport. ----- As France moves closer to a partial ban on the burqa, a leading European lawmaker declared Wednesday that the full Muslim veil is a symbol of political Islam that has no place in Europe. ----- **
**In my opinion the law proposed by the French government to ban the burqa would be a bias and discriminatory ban through the constitutional amendment. **
**It is a clear instance of a breach of the France’s commitment under international human rights treaties to respect equality and freedom of religion. **
**The country in question should be dealt with extreme harshness and must be penalized heavily for a Defamation of the Religion. **
Its totally insane of people to think women who wear burka are oppressed or backward. Or burka represents oppression.
How and why a woman who wears hijab or burka out of her own choice is considered backward/oppressed and a woman who wears skin revealing clothes out of her own choice considered modern??
The questions is ...Since when did expression of choice considered backward???
France is more than welcome to pass any laws they want.
People who criticise hijabi women and people who condemn women in bikini are two sides of the same coin.
Do Muslim countries respect the rights and freedom of other religions ? Then why expect France to respect the rights & freedom of Islam ??
Your problem is that you are watching too much erroneous propaganda against Muslim countries ----- just don't jump into discussion if you do not have correct information and knowledge regarding the issue.
The Burqa or the headscarf was orginally invented because the jews used to molest the muslim women. I thought that the honor of a human being is untouchable, but it seems to that only counts for themselves.
I support the French and their stand against the Burka.
Covering the face is not a part of Islam but rather a backward Arab tradition.
Many women are forced to wear the Burka by their male relatives.
This should atleast remove that hurdle.
Then how would you justify and describe*** “Article 1” of the “PREAMBLE”*** section of the constitution of France as follows -----
“France shall be an indivisible, secular, democratic and social Republic. It shall ensure the equality of all citizens before the law, without distinction of origin, race or religion. It shall respect all beliefs. It shall be organised on a decentralised basis.”
I would not paper over the cracks ----- yet try to look at the underlying problem instead ----- I believe that there must be a reasonable number of Muslim women who would want to wear Burqa without any pressure from male members of their families ----- so be fathers, brothers or husbands ----- different strokes for different folks ----- if you will ----- don't you think their civil rights would be violated by this ban ----- just as if France was to ban wearing Bindis for Hindu women ----- Turbans for sikh men and cross necklaces for Christians ----- shouldn' we have equal ----- or even stevens laws?. ----- So to speak!.
Do Muslim countries respect the rights and freedom of other religions ? Then why expect France to respect the rights & freedom of Islam ??
So you support the Burka ban then? All I need is a yes/no
I’ll address the Muslim nations question as well. In most instances Muslims from Muslim majority nations have migrated to Europe for economic reasons. Europe is seen as the first world beacon of enlightenment and liberalism. Indeed many Europeans take pride in the tolerant traditions of humanism, so all of these proposed bans smack of hypocrisy within the European political framework.
Now let’s return to the Muslim majority nations. Places like Saudi Arabia do not claim to moved by Voltaire or hold any aspirations of multi-sectarian society. Indeed the Saudis explicitly prohibit non-Muslims from entering the holy cities, yet there are plenty of British and Indian expats there for the same reasons (economic). Despite the restrictive society and laws, KSA is not fooling anyone who comes there to work.
The fact that some European nations are threatened by burka clad young and middle aged women is beyond me.
Your problem is that you are watching too much erroneous propaganda against Muslim countries ----- just don't jump into discussion if you do not have correct information and knowledge regarding the issue.
So you support the Burka ban then? All I need is a yes/no
Yes, I do. France is a sovereign nation and has the right to make whatever rules it deems fit as long as they are applied equally to all citizens/residents. As for burqa being part of Islam, a few posters have already pointed out that its not so saying that France is somehow disrespecting Islam is stupidity.
But again, if some one does not like the laws in France they are free to move to a place thats more to their liking.
Now to my questions about Muslim nations. Why is it mandatory for all women (Muslim or not) to wear a burqa when they go out in Saudi Arabia ?
Yes, I do. France is a sovereign nation and has the right to make whatever rules it deems fit as long as they are applied equally to all citizens/residents.
If France was to ban wearing Bindis for Hindu women and Turbans for sikh men ----- would you still support the Law?
Yes, I do. France is a sovereign nation and has the right to make whatever rules it deems fit as long as they are applied equally to all citizens/residents. As for burqa being part of Islam, a few posters have already pointed out that its not so saying that France is somehow disrespecting Islam is stupidity.
But again, if some one does not like the laws in France they are free to move to a place thats more to their liking.
Now to my questions about Muslim nations. Why is it mandatory for all women (Muslim or not) to wear a burqa when they go out in Saudi Arabia ?
That’s fine. We’ll call it French hypocrisy then. A nation NO longer built on Equality, Fraternity and Liberty.
Equality: There is no equality when under the strictest interpretation of the proposed laws target a double minority (French Muslim and Female).
Fraternity: There is no longer any fraternity when the social space is dominated by rhetoric of intolerance.
Liberty: Pretty evident here. French Muslim women are being denied THEIR choice to wear an article of clothing.
Many of the women wearing the Burkas/Hijab/Niqab are French born and raised, they every right to be live in their nation as they please.
Besides who are you to ask any French born citizen to leave if they don’t like things in their country? You identify your location as the US yet seem to be proud Indian, if your so proud to be Indian, why aren’t you back in India? I’m not looking to insult you here but mentioning a fact. You want me to go back to the country of birth? Gladly, I wouldn’t mind living in Switzerland :)
The topic on hand is about French hypocrisy not Muslim majority nations, if you want to discuss the lack of religion freedom in KSA, I’ll be glad to talk about it in another thread.
If France was to ban wearing Bindis for Hindu women and Turbans for sikh men ----- would you still support the Law?
I’m not going to speak for Hindus and Sikhs, but I will say this: These communities are more integrationist meaning that they tend to not mind giving up their religious practices and culture to “get ahead and be accepted” in the host society. Muslims and Orthodox Jews stick out in France because they tend to hold their religion and cultural practices more closely. As a community, you will note that French Jews were the ones who pushed for the availability of kosher meat, which was the same argument used by Muslims when it came to halal meat.
