Re: Bulleh Shah and Punjab University
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Re: Bulleh Shah and Punjab University
Yes the lines are from same kaafi. complete kaafi is:
جاں میں سبق عشق دا پڑھیا
مسجد کولوں جیوڑا ڈریا
ڈیرے جا ٹھاکر دے وڑیا
جتھے وجدے ناد ہَزار
عشق دی نوّیوں نوّیں بہار
جاں میں رَمز عشق دی پائی
مَینا طوطا مار گوائی
اندر باہر ہوئی صفائی
جِت وَل ویکھاں یارو یار
عشق دی نوّیوں نوّیں بہار
ہیر رانجھے دے ہو گئے میلے
بھُلّی مہر ڈھوڈیندی بیلے
رانجھا یار بُکّل وِچ کھیلے
مینوں سدھ رہی نہ سار
عشق دی نوّیوں نوّیں بہار
وید قرآناں پڑھ پڑھ تھکے
سجدے کردیاں گھس گئے متھے
نہ رب تیرتھ نہ رب مکّے
جس پایا تس نور اَنوار
عشق دی نوّیوں نوّیں بہار
پُھوک مصلّٰی بھن سٹ لوٹا
نہ پھڑ تسبیح عاصا سوٹا
عاشق کیہندے دے دے ہوکا
ترک حلالوں کھا مردار
عشق دی نوّیوں نوّیں بہار
عمر گوائی وچ مسیتی
اندر بھریا نال پلیتی
کدے نماز توحید نہ نیتی
ہن کی کرنائیں شور پُکار
عشق دی نوّیوں نوّیں بہار
عشق بُھلایا سجدہ تیرا
ہن کیوں اینویں پاویں جھیڑا
بلھا ہوندا چپ بتیرا
عشق کریندا مارو مار
عشق دی نوّیوں نوّیں بہار
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Re: Bulleh Shah and Punjab University
This is less blasphemous 
Re: Bulleh Shah and Punjab University
If he were alive today he would have been lynched long ago on charges of blasphemy…
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The first two (which is considered most controversial) emphasises on khaloos e dil and purity while performing Ibadaat. You might have read Rabiya Basri’s saying:
“O God! If I worship You for fear of Hell, burn me in Hell, and if I worship You in hope of Paradise, exclude me from Paradise.
But if I worship You for Your Own sake, grudge me not Your everlasting Beauty.”
Same were the thoughts of Allama Iqbal, when he said:
Tere ishq ki inteha chahta hoon
meri sadgi dekh kia chahta hoon
Ye jannat mubarak rahe zahidon ko
K main aap ka samna chahta hun
Re: Bulleh Shah and Punjab University
Yes, because ‘sach aakheyan bhanbaR machda ae’
Re: Bulleh Shah and Punjab University
Mujhy to poetry ki or bullhay shah ki alif bay bhe ni ati, iqbal ko he parha hy school me;)
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Roza and namaz is compulsory, you have to perform whether you get satisfication or not. if mullah say something about who dont offer namaz, you say mullah has no right to judge people. how can you judge people they are offering for sake of show-off and greed?
please answer categorically why it is necessary to point finger at Roza Namaz. later, we shall discuss who have got the right to judge people.
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Roza and namaz is compulsory, you have to perform whether you get satisfication or not. if mullah say something about who dont offer namaz, you say mullah has no right to judge people. how can you judge people they are offering for sake of show-off and greed?
please answer categorically why it is necessary to point finger at Roza Namaz. later, we shall discuss who have got the right to judge people.
Bulleh Shah's poetry might be controversial, but in this case he is not pointing fingers on namaz/roza but the hypocrites people who carry out the prayers.
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Roza and namaz is compulsory, you have to perform whether you get satisfication or not. if mullah say something about who dont offer namaz, you say mullah has no right to judge people. how can you judge people they are offering for sake of show-off and greed?
please answer categorically why it is necessary to point finger at Roza Namaz. later, we shall discuss who have got the right to judge people.
I think I have given answer, when I asked whether or not Bulleh Shah abandon Roza, Namaz, specially when he was preaching after the death of Shah Inayat.
Its not the matter of judgement of show-off or greed of someone. Why one should judge, if he himself got the view ' Arre Mulla Janaza paRh, main janoo mera Allah Jane'?
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I think I have given answer, when I asked whether or not Bulleh Shah abandon Roza, Namaz, specially when he was preaching after the death of Shah Inayat.
Its not the matter of judgement of show-off or greed of someone. Why one should judge, if he himself got the view ' Arre Mulla Janaza paRh, main janoo mera Allah Jane'?
OK, If you have given the answer let me finish wtih the notion of Bulleh shah bhulli phiray lokaae
Batth namazan, chakarr rozay kalmay te phir gaye siyahi
Bulleh shah sho andr milya bhulli phiray lokaae
"offering prayer is like sitting in fireplace, fasting is like wind storm, I lost my faith due to these painful and tiring practices.
real thing is within, people are on wrong path".
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OK, If you have given the answer let me finish wtih the notion of Bulleh shah bhulli bhiray lokaae
Batth namazan, chakarr rozay kalmay te phir gaye siyahi Bulleh shah sho andr milya bhulli bhiray lokaae offering prayer is like sitting in fireplace, fasting is like wind storm, I lost my faith due to these painful and tiring practices. real thing is within, people are on wrong path.
If your inner is not clean then you will get impact of namaz, roza, etc as Bulleh Shah mentioned. Then namaz becomes takkar, roza becomes faqa.. Its not that Bulleh Shah felt about these practices like that. Kalme phir gai siyahi, is definitely losing faith, but not due to painful and tiring practices, but practices without inner soul.
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If your inner is not clean then you will get impact of namaz, roza, etc as Bulleh Shah mentioned. Then namaz becomes takkar, roza becomes faqa.. Its not that Bulleh Shah felt about these practices like that. Kalme phir gai siyahi, is definitely losing faith, but not due to painful and tiring practices, but practices without inner soul.
No need to belittle and talk against Roza and Namaz. not everyone can reach "status" bulleh shah has reached.
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No need to belittle and talk against Roza and Namaz. not everyone can reach "status" bulleh shah has reached.
No one is belittling Roza, namaaz. Quran and Ahadees are full of such statements, when these things are performed without essence. Bulleh Shah neither claimed to achieve certain status nor he carried heavy titles for making himself above the masses.
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No one is belittling Roza, namaaz. Quran and Ahadees are full of such statements, when these things are performed without essence. Bulleh Shah neither claimed to achieve certain status nor he carried heavy titles for making himself above the masses.
you are saying like "main na manoo"
Bulleh shah sho andar milya, bhulli phiray lokaee
means "I got the right thing that is innerself, people who are offering prayers are wrong"
where did he mention that people are offering prayer for rhe sake of show-off and greed?
You know Sufis of Qadri cult always target Sharia, and this shair is proof.
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you are saying like "main na manoo"
Bulleh shah sho andar milya, bhulli phiray lokaee means "I got the right thing that is innerself, people who are offering prayers are wrong" where did he mention that people are offering prayer for rhe sake of show-off and greed? You know Sufis of Qadri cult always target Sharia, and this shair is proof.
Nahnu aqrabu ilaihi min hablil wareed” We are closer to them (human) than their jugular vein (50:16).
What does this verse from Quran says?
Poetry is metaphoric and if read without context and not reading previous and subsequent lines, may lead to misleading conclusions.
Re: Bulleh Shah and Punjab University
Nahnu aqrabu ilaihi min hablil wareed” We are closer to them (human) than their jugular vein (50:16).
What does this verse from Quran says?
Poetry is metaphoric and if read without context and not reading previous and subsequent lines, may lead to misleading conclusions.
there are more than one angles of petry from one poet. and you cannot take single shair with the context of any other shair or kafi.
Re: Bulleh Shah and Punjab University
there are more than one angles of petry from one poet. and you cannot take single shair with the context of any other shair or kafi.
But consistency of thoughts do matter, when you study one particular poet
Re: Bulleh Shah and Punjab University
But consistency of thoughts do matter, when you study one particular poet
yes, but how poet decide on words for poetry tells the intention of poet.