Following are shia hadiths which forbid building shrines over graves:
الاستبصار
الشيخ الطوسي ج 1
علي بن جعفر قال: سألت أبا الحسن موسى (ع) عن البناء على القبر والجلوس عليه هل يصلح ؟ قال: لا يصلح البناء عليه ولا الجلوس ولا تجصيصه ولا تطيينه****217
Ali bin jafar asked,Imam Musa Kazim(rah),how is it to build,some building over a grave and sit on it?
He said:“To sit on grave,to build some building over a grave,to strengthen it(cemement etc) or plaster it,is not correct” (istabsirar vol1 pg217)
أبي عبد الله (ع) عن أبيه قال: نهى رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله ان يصلى على قبر أو يقعد عليه أو يتكئ عليه أو يبنى عليه.
482
Imam jafar sadiq(rah) said:Prophet(saw) forbade praying over a grave,sitting on it,or building a some structure over it.(pg 482) تهذيب الأحكام
الشيخ الطوسي ج 1
عن أبي عبد الله عليه السلام قال: لا تبنوا على القبور ولا تصوروا سقوف البيوت فان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله كره ذلك
461
Imam jafar sadiq(rah) said:
“Donot build structures over graves,Prophet(saw) forbade it”.(Thazib ul ahkam vol 1 pg 461)
عن أبي عبد الله عليه السلام قال: لا تطينوا القبر من غير طينه. (1500) 145 عنه عن أبي عبد الله عليه السلام ان النبي صلى الله عليه
وآله نهى ان يزاد على القبر تراب لم يخرج منه[FONT=Times New Roman]**. ****
461/460****
ج 3**[FONT=Times New Roman][size=]202الفروع الكافي **عن أبي عبد الله (عليه السلام) أن النبي (صلى الله عليه وآله) نهى أن يزاد على القبر تراب لم يخرج منه[FONT=Times New Roman]**. **
Imam Jafar sadiq(rah) said:“Prophet(saw) forbade more mud on grave then which is taken out of it”.
(tahzib ul ahkam,fur-e-kafi vol3,pg 202)**[/size]
How long does it take from building a masjid on a grave to people praying to the one in the grave? Not long. That is why this practice is discouraged and almost all muslims agree on it being wrong.
^Why do Muslims pray inside Masjidul Haraam which contains graves of Bibi Hajira and Hazrat Ismael (as)? Why did Allah (swt) order the people of Ashaab e Kahaf to erect a mosque over their graves? Why was the Prophet of Islam buried inside a mosque?
Stop buying into the Wahabi propoganda. Action is dependend on the intention. I could commit shirk in any surroundings if i wanted to. And i could pray to the true God infront of an idol if i wanted to. Wahabis just want an excuse to destroy all the signs of the Prophet and his pure family but Insha Allah they will fail.
^Why do Muslims pray inside Masjidul Haraam which contains graves of Bibi Hajira and Hazrat Ismael (as)?
first time heard of this
Why did Allah (swt) order the people of Ashaab e Kahaf to erect a mosque over their graves?
evidence
Why was the Prophet of Islam buried inside a mosque?
where did you get this from? Prophet (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam) is buried in house of Aishah (radiAllahu anha), which is not part of the masjid.
Stop buying into the Wahabi propoganda. Action is dependend on the intention. I could commit shirk in any surroundings if i wanted to. And i could pray to the true God infront of an idol if i wanted to. Wahabis just want an excuse to destroy all the signs of the Prophet and his pure family but Insha Allah they will fail.
your people's shirk is not different from the shirk of mushrikeen and we all know what Allah Ta'ala says about them in the Qur'an
If you have ever been on Hajj then on the left side of the Holy Kabaa there is a semi-circular wall called Hajare Ismail. This portion contains graves of this great Prophet and his mother.
Read the verses about the Ashaab e Kahaf in the Quran and you will find the verse i am talking about. Most probably be Sura Kahaf.
Prophet was buried in the Masjid e Nabawi. Regardless of the argument whether it was part of Ayeshas house it is masjid now.
If you have ever been on Hajj then on the left side of the Holy Kabaa there is a semi-circular wall called Hajare Ismail. This portion contains graves of this great Prophet and his mother.
are you talking about place where you offer two nafls?
Read the verses about the Ashaab e Kahaf in the Quran and you will find the verse i am talking about. Most probably be Sura Kahaf.
I know which ayah you're referring to, let me quote it for you:
Thus did We make their case known to the people, that they might know that the promise of Allah is true, and that there can be no doubt about the Hour of Judgment. Behold, they dispute among themselves as to their affair.** (Some) said**, "Construct a building over them": Their Lord knows best about them: **those who prevailed **over their affair said, "Let us surely build a place of worship over them."[Surah al-Kahf: 21 - interpretation of the meaning]
Where does the ayah say that Allah Ta'ala order them to build masjid over their death place/graves?
Prophet was buried in the Masjid e Nabawi. Regardless of the argument whether it was part of Ayeshas house it is masjid now.
no, he wasn't. Was Prophet (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam) burry in Aishah's (radiAllahu anha) house; YES or NO? Was the house of Aishah (radiAllahu anha) part of masjid; YES or NO?
Its wajib for us to pray behind the Muqaam e Ibrahim (as) but not at the Muqaam e Ismail (as). But people do pray nafal there.
ok so lets call it a tomb over the graves of Ashaab e Kahaf as there were no masjids that time anyway. We are talking about the principle put forward by the Quran here.
And now since we got a masjid over the grave of our Prophet (pbuh) do you stand by the Wahabi fatwa to demolish the mosque?
I am sorry but only the uneducated Muslims believe in these kinda things. An educated (islamically educated) muslim will never even think about going to a mizaar and praying for anything.
It is actually the uneducated sector of the Muslims that are either totally anti-shrines (Taliban type) OR go to the other extreme of worshipping individuals (pir faqir type).
The Islamically educated ones understand the concept well and have no such problem as clearly exhibited by number of shrines in Iraq, Turkey, Egypt, Syria etc.
Things such as building of a shrine and then visiting it to pray to dead holy men. I have even seen people doing sajda at these shrines. Oh well...we can only try to stop people ...but at the end most will do what they want to do.
Its wajib for us to pray behind the Muqaam e Ibrahim (as) but not at the Muqaam e Ismail (as). But people do pray nafal there.
ok...since I've heard it first time, can you please show me an evidence which says that it contains the graves of Prophet Isma'il and his mother (peace be upon them)?
ok so lets call it a tomb over the graves of Ashaab e Kahaf as there were no masjids that time anyway. We are talking about the principle put forward by the Quran here.
The masjid is nothing but house of Allah: a place of worship. I asked you to show me where in the ayah it says that Allah Ta'ala told people to build masjid (a place of worship) over Ashaab e Kahaf's graves? Because this is what you claimed! Let me quote the ayah for you again:Thus did We make their case known to the people, that they might know that the promise of Allah is true, and that there can be no doubt about the Hour of Judgment. Behold, they dispute among themselves as to their affair.** (Some) said**, "Construct a building over them": Their Lord knows best about them: **those who prevailed **over their affair said, "Let us surely build a place of worship over them."[Surah al-Kahf: 21 - interpretation of the meaning]
Please show me in this ayah what you claimed earlier!
And now since we got a masjid over the grave of our Prophet (pbuh) do you stand by the Wahabi fatwa to demolish the mosque?
there is no masjid over the grave of Prophet (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam). Please stop beating around the bush and answer my questions:
1 - Was Prophet (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam) burried in Aishah's (radiAllahu anha) house; YES or NO?
2 - Was the house of Aishah (radiAllahu anha) part of masjid; YES or NO?
-I do not have any evidence to show you except for what i have seen. If you havent been on Hajj/Umrah already then ask somebody who could confirm you about the burial site of Hazrat Ismail (as), his mother Hajra (sa), and according to some riwayats his daughters, and some other Prophets (as) are also buried there. Now if it is haraam to visit or to convert into places of worship the graves of prophets and messengers and the righteous servants of Allah, why do we find the Holy Prophet (pbuh) following such a practice?
-bro, you keep on arguing without checking the facts so i opened up the Quran and checked. If you look at the original Arabic of the verse you will find it contains the word MASJID:
They built a masjid and had it been a haraam act or one that that Allah SWT is displeased with then there would've been condemnation for it but that is not the case. Masjid Al Kahf is still present in Syria or according to some in Taizz, Yemen. People go there and pray to Allah SWT as its a great symbol of the power of tawheed and the righteous people who stood up for it against the taghoot of the time.
-Allah SWT has ordered us to consider the place where Ibrahim (as) stood, as a place of worship too:
"Appoint for yourselves a place of prayer on the standing-place of Ibrahim."
(Surah Baqarah 2:25)
Muslims pray at the burial site of our Prophet, and there is a building over his grave too. Do you see any harm in that?
ويرفع من الأرض مقدار أربع أصابع ولا يطرح فيه من غير ترابه ........ تجصيص القبور والبناء عليه في المواضع المباحة مكروه إجماع..............ويكره تجديد القبور بعد اندراسها**
المبسوط الشيخ الطوسي ج1
"Graves should be four fingers above the ground,no mud other other than the mud of grave should be placed on it,stregehting the grave(cemented etc) and building structures over it,is "makroo" by ijma(consensus).When graves are vanished,then to renew them is makhroo too." (Al-mabsoot by Shiekh tusi,pg187) [Better translation accepted]
ويرفع من الأرض مقدار أربع أصابع ولا يطرح فيه من غير ترابه ........ تجصيص القبور والبناء عليه في المواضع المباحة مكروه إجماع..............ويكره تجديد القبور بعد اندراسها**
المبسوط الشيخ الطوسي ج1
"Graves should be four fingers above the ground,no mud other other than the mud of grave should be placed on it,stregehting the grave(cemented etc) and building structures over it,is "makroo" by ijma(consensus).When graves are vanished,then to renew them is makhroo too." (Al-mabsoot by Shiekh tusi,pg187) [Better translation accepted]
this is alright about the actual grave and this is what I have been told since I was a child. In terms of building a mosque around it or nearby I dont see a challenge?
Please read carefully and use logic if not common sense.
*Sajda in baitullah can be done with the wrong niyat, but there is NO sajda for anything other than Allah with any kind of Niyat that is correct.
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So I am not judging people. I am defining people based on rules laid down by Islam.
So be careful when you say that I am judging, because am not. BUT YOU ARE!
i've seen ppl kissing Quran and putting their forehead on Quran, is that considered sajda ?and if so is it allowed ?