Re: Brunei’s ‘stone the gays’ law phased
stop spreading lies. i mentioned anyone who is ARMED. whoever breaks in to someones home with a weapon is a threat. many people have been inured and died due to armed robberies.
this is why I said, I find it very inhumane. how you compare a gay man to an armed robber is beyond me. looks like you need to learn what Human rights are.
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That is my entire point. This is what you feel so it must be wrong. And I am free to feel you are wrong and that is some how unacceptable.
You see the disconnect there? Your views are right and that is it.
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i stated my views first, but then you actually quoted my post as ‘biased’. so it’s okay for you to call my views wrong and biased, but i cannot do the same? was there a reason for you to quote me and then expect me not to find your post as being very biased and in violation of human rights?
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Just forget it.
Liberal blinders are just as hard as mullah blinders.
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so you can think i am biased but i cannot view your posts as extremely biased?
and i see a strong bias in your posts as well. the fact that you can compare a gay person to an armed robber is beyond me. no one in their right mind can compare the 2..
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Again right mind - based on your personal view point. Someone who is a mullah would consider my view point as that of a right sane person.
See how that works?
A basic thing of human rights is that though they are universal they are very subjective.
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i clearly stated in my first post, that I view stoning as inhumane. that was MY opinion. I didn’t mention sharia as being wrong, i simply stated what i think of it. but you felt the need to quote me and say i am wrong. so why cant i do the same?
you can have an opinon and point of view, but I cannot? whats with your double standards?
so instead of calling my opinion wrong, you could have just stated your own opinion. but you feel the need to bash mine, and yet I cannot do the same to you?
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I did say I disagreed with your opinion and I said it was hypocritical. That is my right. You are defending yourself. That is all.
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what i find hypocritical is you can post your views but if someone else posts theirs, it automatically becomes wrong if it’s different from yours. i dont care if you support sharia or not. some people on this thread have expressed how it’s a great thing. but you’re the only one who felt the need to quote me and tell me i am wrong. you see the difference?
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Didn’t say wrong. I stated you were being a hypocrite. You are welcome to disagree. You are welcome to defend yourself. You are welcome to believe whatever you wish.
But i still find your views hypocritical.
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you can have whatever views you want. it’s clearly evident that your view of human rights is clearly non-existant.
i find your views to be very biased and illogical.
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Unique. But I would disagree with your notion of what constitutes human rights. Does someone have the freedom to practice their religion as they see fit? As enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?
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yes, you can practice whatever you want. I am not saying that no country should have sharia. i simply stated I disagree with it. and as i stated earlier, I just find it inhumane to stone adulterers and gays. thats just what I think. i personally would never live under sharia nor do i support that form of govt.
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Stop feeding the troll bella. Anyone with an iota of common sense would understand that if someone armed with guns breaks into ur house u have every right to DEFEND yourself the best way you can. No further discussion needed.
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some ignorant people here see no different between ARMED criminal vs innocent homosexual person. what a shameful and scary world we live in..
Re: Brunei’s ‘stone the gays’ law phased
the law is stupid and like every other muslim leader, Sultan if Brunei is the biggest hypocrite and a liar. He should be stoned to death.
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Re: Brunei’s ‘stone the gays’ law phased
whats the point in condemning someone who is implementing shariah law? we may find certain Islamic laws as extreme, but there is a wisdom behind each and every rule and law of Islam.
also i don’t get this mentality that if someone is trying to do one good thing, some people start bashing him/her for his bad or unislamic things. i mean common, if you are doing some things that are unislamic it doesn’t mean that you can not adopt any Islamic thing at all.
and for people who have the view that it should be left to Allah, i would like to say that when you become a ruler there lies a great responsibility upon you to implement laws in your country,that are prescribed by Shariah because now you have the power and authority and hence you are accountable for the affairs of your country and people.
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What’s with zafra’s trolling? This is the third thread today where he’s pulling a diwana.
Re: Brunei’s ‘stone the gays’ law phased
A bit of a catch-22 situation, isn’t it? It might not apply to non-muslims as you say but a muslim can’t become a non-muslim under the same version of sharia. If he does, he’ll be dead all the same.
Right. Before you (generic, not you personally) implement sharia on everyone else, shouldn’t you at least implement it on yourself if you aren’t a total hypocrite?
I just do not believe that leaders in muslim countries are in any position of implementing sharia. The law might be from God but He isn’t coming down to implement it Himself. It will have to be humans who are sinners like you and me. Molvis and muslim rulers alike have a terrible track record with handling power and can’t be trusted to implement God’s laws on earth. Not until they themselves are reformed. After all, you can’t have one set of laws for mere mortals and another for the rulers and the clergy.
An additional problem with implementing sharia in societies that aren’t reformed, like the companions were at the time of the Prophet(saw), is that it becomes a tool for injustice. What is going to be the standard of evidence to condemn someone to death? Are molvis armed with street mobs going to become arbiters of life and death? Are these laws going to be used to settle personal scores?
Because that Jack A** is an ayaash jerk who owns 7000 cars, and calls American dancers to come and entertain him and his guests and have sex with them. He has international hotel chains that serve sharab. He is not qualified to implement any shariah.
Secondly, stoning to death was a cultural need and served the purpose of that time where swift justice was required because of no proper structure of prison or police. In this day and age, stoning to death is barbaric and insult to humanity.