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This whole youths were 6 million youths were brutalized by the govt in the 90s is a hoax, there were no youths brutalized, it was the MQM who killed ppl who belong in their ethnic lines, just like how they would kill a person if he refuses to pay bhatta or vote for them.
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Our same Pakistani police went into E. Pakistan in 1971 [from you know where] and a lot of the crimes were committed by them that army gets credit for in 1971. SO, I wouldn't disclaim completely any such facts.
PS i remember that time: Inter mqm violence, police making people run then shooting them in the back with ak47s .
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Shriek, Pakistani police never went into E. Pakistan, it was the army. And that was a totally difference scenario. In Karachi, it was the MQM that went rampant (both factions), and it was only the senior leaders that were taken out by Babar (like Fahim Commando etc.) and I think their death was justified because everyone beleives that Babar was able to break the back of the MQM militancy during that time, until ofcourse they regrouped and rearmed themselves during the Mush 2002- regime.
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^ First about E. Pakistan: No, there were other forces than just army in e. pakistan. Did you know that active army only made 40-45k out of the 90k that surrendered in E. Pakistan in december 1971? How do you explain that E. Pakistan administration was run since I remember reading that there was a general bureaucratic administration strike by bengalis in support of Awami League? This is the reason E. Pakistan was paralysed completely in March-April 1971 when the army operation started.
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As for MQM, how is it that a lot of their senior commanders etc. are still alive when they were and are still in Pakistan? Babar wasn’t such a saint and you know it. Saints and PPP / BB don’t go together in one sentence anyway..
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At least he has done something for karachi unlike BB and Gunja. Though, I would credit gunja for doing development in PUnjab [Lahore i know of but other cities as well?]. Musharraf also started gawadar and restarted saindak etc. to which BB has tried to claim as her initiatives recently in the news...
Your going of on a tangent again... We were talking about the Pak Army and its corruption... Musharaf being the commander in Chief should have resolved the issue, but he didnt... But you dont blame him for that, but you do blame Punjabis!
All the corruption you blame on Punjab, all your problems you face ase a Mohajir you blame on Punjab, yet you dont realize that Musharaf could have changed all that, BUT DIDNT... Yet you still support Mush! Doesnt make sense does it?!?1
And as far as Karachi goes, Karachi is one of the dirtiest cities on the subcontinent... There is no doubt in that im sorry, you still havent come close to getting any kind of public transport, infrastructure is falling apart left and right, and crime is still out of control...
So despite so many years of the MQM running Karachi, all you have to show for it is a couple of decrepid fly overs...
Now go ahead an blame this on Punjab aswell...
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Im sorry if the state came down to hard on you, but if you insist on running a criminal organization, that is as brutal as the MQM, then a brutal reponse was inevitable.
Here is a question, how do you respond to Altaf Hussain going to India and calling Pakistan the biggest mistake in the subcontinents history? How can that NOT be treason, and how can someone who continues to support him be considered a Pakistani?
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Did you see me come wearing an MQM flag on this foruM? Your favorite BLA and their gay commie afghan / pathan buddies utter same, if not worse, crap about Pakistan and you are content with their "struggle"? Why pick on altaf when your BLA is no better?
CAN YOU EXPLAIN???
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Im sorry if the state came down to hard on you, but if you insist on running a criminal organization, that is as brutal as the MQM, then a brutal reponse was inevitable.
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What is BLA? What have sardars done for balochis. Heck, that idiot bhugti was on bhutto's side when bhutto dismissed the democratically elected govt of balochistan! It seems to me that MQM came down hard on you hence your hatred for karachi.
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Blaming the Sardars for everything is a convenient way for us to simply wash our hands of any responisibilities…
The Govt role is to bring the development to the people, take the power away from the sardars through democratic means, education and public uplift.
The worng approach is to start killing their leaders, Sardars or other wise, and continueing on as business as usual.
6000 youths were brutalized, very sorry to hear that… Worse has happened in war.
MQM should learn to behave itelf before itself.. .Antics are only going to get another 6000 youths brutalized…
If you have problem with that, then by all means, demand your freedom… If you have a case, present it. I personally dont think you have one. You are one of the most influential groups in the country, what is your complaint?
Educated Pakistanis want to leave in droves because there are no jobs in Pak, and even if there are, they make better money else where! Why is that so diffcult to comprehend?
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Why don't mouhajirs have a case and balochis do? Sorry, setting aside the problems that balochis have suffered, are you implying that mouhajirs have no rights or are second- or third-class people in Pakistan????
So much for that thread in General about how all "pakistanis" are first class in their own country..
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Did you see me come wearing an MQM flag on this foruM? Your favorite BLA and their gay commie afghan / pathan buddies utter same, if not worse, crap about Pakistan and you are content with their "struggle"? Why pick on altaf when your BLA is no better?
CAN YOU EXPLAIN???
What is BLA? What have sardars done for balochis. Heck, that idiot bhugti was on bhutto's side when bhutto dismissed the democratically elected govt of balochistan! It seems to me that MQM came down hard on you hence your hatred for karachi.
No, you brought up the whole Mohajir issue not me...
And as for BLA, I can understand why they should be so pissed... Im pissed at the govt for not being sincere in their dealing with its own people.
BLA is fighting a govt that has neglected them for 50 years, which neither listens nor cares about their rights as Pakistanis...
Unlike the Balich who are most illiterate and poor, you by your own admission said that the Mohajirs are the backbone of the Pak Business, that doesnt sound like a brutalized populas to me... Altaf said what he said, you support him...
Justify that...
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Why don't mouhajirs have a case and balochis do? Sorry, setting aside the problems that balochis have suffered, are you implying that mouhajirs have no rights or are second- or third-class people in Pakistan????
So much for that thread in General about how all "pakistanis" are first class in their own country..
Ok, whats your case...
You as a community control Pak bussines, you are well known to be some of the most educated people in the country, you as a group are the most literate among all the groups...
There are many many Mohajirs that have succeeded, including Pervez Mush himself...
Baloch are poor, illiterate, jobless... Their province is robbed of its resources without anything going to them and its been happening for 50 years...
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when did i support him? Putting words in people’s mouth…
And effort has been made in the past but the point is that karachi is like mumbai in india and you can’t easily take that away from a city. But facts are facts and discrimination is discrimination!