British Muslims call for ban on extremist rally at mosque in Ramadan

British Muslims called for a ban on a anti-Islamist protest by nationalists at Harrow mosque, scheduled on Friday, facing with a new threat of violence during a period of fasting and prayer, British papers said.

The English Defence League (EDL), which clashed with anti-fascists in an anti-Muslims demonstration in Birmingham on Saturday, and Stop the Islamisation of Europe (SIOE) are planning another protest at a mosque in Harrow. They promoted Friday’s protest on their websites.

Meanwhile, Unite Against Fascism (UAF) supporters will hold their own counter-demonstration to show solidarity with Muslims. Friday is the anniversary of September 11.

The mosque is not finished, but Friday prayers will be conducted next door in the middle of Ramadan, Islam’s holiest month.

We would have 200 to 300 people coming here for prayers on a Friday, Harrow Times quoted Haroon Sheikh, chairman of Harrow Central Mosque, as saying.

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Chair khob'aan say chali jaye a asad.

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The more they scream about Islamization, the more Islam spreads.

:) Sweet irony

i hope british muslims make a strong uniformed presence against this demonstration.

the new converts seem to practice islam better than the people who were born muslim

This is also what I have mostly observed as well. In general converts practice better than born Muslims.

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Alhamdulillah. There was no trouble.

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british muslims really need to clean up their act....

here in usa and canada...even after 9/11 we never had these kinds of riots that are happening in europe....

its just that the muslims moving to europe are really labor class, uneducated and the ones moving to north america are educated and elite.....

so i can understand why british people feel that their country is being invaded....heck if british muslims moved to canada and brought their antics I would want them deported

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The racists are finding it easier to target the muslims as they are finding it difficult to target ethnic groups without falling foul of the racism laws. Demonstrations that aim to incite violence and are provokative should not have been allowed by the authorities in the first place.

Riot police called in as demonstrators clash at anti-Muslim protest | The Independent | The Independent
Riot police clash with demonstrators at anti-Muslim protest

By Jerome Taylor

Friday, 11 September 2009 Hundreds of Asian youths threw rocks, bottles and fireworks at riot police tonight as anger over a demonstration by anti-Muslim groups spilled onto the streets of Harrow.

Police made eight arrests and fought a series of skirmishes with masked protestors close to Harrow Central Mosque which had been targetted by anti-Islamic demonstrators.

The demonstration organised by two groups, the English Defence League and Stop the Islamization of Europe, was called off after the first 15 supporters to turn up were chased off by counter-demonstrators who outnumbered them heavily.

Anti-Islamic protestors had to be sheltered by riot police who formed a cordon round them and rescued one from a beating after he was caught and set upon by a crowd of Asian youths.
As police protected the men further violence broke out when a number of masked protestors started hurling botles, rocks and fireworks at officers. The masked youths ignored pleas by a larger crowd of Muslims who urged them to keep the protests peaceful.

The violence came just a few days after an anti-Islamic protest organised by the English Defence League in Birmingham descended into running street battles which led to 90 people being arrested, with more anticipated as CCTV footage is examined.

In Harrow, several of the Asian youths making up the bulk of 1,500 counter-protestors armed themselves with sticks and metal poles. All eight arrests were for the suspected possession of offensive weapons.

The town’s central mosque is still under construction and is expected to provide a enough prayer space for the area’s 35,000 Muslims.

Elders at the mosque said the timing of the protests were particularly insensitive because it fell not just on the anniversary of the 11 September attacks, but also during Ramadan, a deeply spiritual month where Muslims fast from dawn until sunset.

The violence which erupted in the early evening came in stark contrast to the peaceful mass protest earlier in the day before the anti-Islamic demonstrators had arrived.

In an emotional speech during midday prayers, the mosque’s imam, Ajmal Masroor, called on his followers to ignore any anti-Muslim protestors and resist the temptation to retaliate. He prompted laughter when he told listeners: “My father always said to me, ‘If a dog bites your leg do you turn around and bite the dog back?’ Of course not.” But he could do little to prevent hundreds of angry young Muslim men from outside the borough gathering to defend the mosque which they believed would be attacked by Islamaphobes. Mahmood Abdullah, a 17-year-old student, travelled up from Morden south London, and said: “We don’t want to start a fight but we are willing to defend our brothers and sisters if we have to. We want to show them that for every protestor they bring, we’ll bring ten.”

By early evening hundreds of young Asians had taken over Station Road, the main thoroughfare that runs parallel to the mosque, and frequent cries of “Allahu Akbar!” (God is Greatest) could be heard.
The small group of white men who were protected by the police from the mob were largely reluctant to speak. One who said he was from Middlesex but declined to give his name simply stated: “We’ve become a minority in our own country.”

Members of both groups are thought to have been behind a series of controversial protests in Birmingham and Luton where demonstrators paraded through the streets shouting anti-Islamic slogans leading to a number of arrests and Asians being attacked.

The English Defence League first surfaced as an organisation in the spring and has been banned from holding any marches in Luton for three months. Activists have been using social networking sites such as Facebook to spread their protests across the country.

Stop the Islamization of Europe, which boasts 2,300 supporters on its Facebook page, is inspired by a right-wing group in Denmark of the same name who have held regular protests outside mosques ever since cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad appeared in a newspaper sparking riots across the Muslim world.

Unlike far-right groups such as the British National Party, which campaigns on an anti-immigration ticket, the EDL and SOIE have concentrated on campaigning against Islam.
Their emergence has alarmed anti-racism campaigners who fear a return to the days of the National Front when regular street battles broke out between its members and immigrant groups in the 1970s and 1980s.

Tony McNulty, the MP for Harrow, said: “Emotions are running a little high. But the vast majority of people protesting on both sides are not even from here. A load of young teenagers chasing ghosts should not detract from an overwhelmingly peaceful and multi-racial protest which stopped fascist groups from targetting Harrow.”

Alhamdulillah.

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^ Update:](http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/09/12/cops-hold-eight-in-clashes-at-anti-mosque-demo-in-harrow-115875-21667188/)

A race riot erupted outside one of Britain’s biggest mosques on the anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks.

Police moved in after several hundred angry Muslim youths threw sticks and stones and charged at about a dozen anti-Islamic demonstrators.


Eight people were arrested at the demonstration after police confiscated weapons, including a hammer and a chisel. Last night a Scotland Yard said the trouble was "ongoing", Earlier officers in riot gear had surrounded the white marchers to keep the groups apart at Harrow Central Mosque in North London.


Anti-fascist and Muslim protesters spotted a group of around a dozen white men they believed to be far right protesters and surged towards them.

Why do you keep blaming British Muslims. You need to get yoru facts right instead of always thinking that Muslims, Asians, any non white is always at fault. Even the British police is blaming the fascists instead of Muslims. Does that tell you something.

And your observation about educated and uneducated is rubbish as well. You need to educate yourself about facts too.

How did you come up with this thought?

:k:

Muslim desis in the UK are underachievers tho, this is correct according to official statistics, we also have disproportionately high levels of unemployment and numbers in the prison system and before anyone mentions racism Indians are nr the top when it comes to education whilst Pakistanis are nr the bottom. Instead of the standard knee-jerk response of denial perhaps we should look at why and what can be done to improve the situation.

Higher education and ethnic minority achievement

In 2004, men of Bangladeshi and black Caribbean ethnicity were the least likely to have a degree (11% for each group). **Among women, Bangladeshi and Pakistanis were the least likely to have a degree (5% and 10% respectively). **

The groups most likely to have a degree were Chinese (31%), Indian (25%), and white Irish (24%), compared with 17% of white British people. However, a relatively high proportion of Chinese people had no qualifications (20%), compared with 15% of white British people.

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Bangladeshis and Pakistanis were the most likely to be unqualified. Five in ten (49%) Bangladeshi women and four in ten (40%) Bangladeshi men had no qualifications. Among Pakistanis, 35% of women and 29% of men had no qualifications.
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Source: Literacy and education levels by ethnic group

When people feel victimised at every occasion, they will at some point lash out and feel the need to defend themselves. This is regardless of their background.

Whilst I do admit that there is a lot which goes on behind masjid doors which does not help our case, it is wholly unfair to b*****sh British Muslims as 'labor class and uneducated'. The majority of Muslims here want peace and to lead a normal life. When certain people ruin this peace, it is unfair to stereotype all as being the same.

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I wrote b.r.a.n.d.i.s.h if anyone is wondering what got censored.

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it was kind of pathetic how the EDL were going to turn up and actaully cause trouble and start a fight no one said anything to them hoever if your going to come to a mosque to attack ppl the muslims will stand up for themselves , im a brit muslim and i know we are not the ones trying to stir up racial hatered its aimed atus by these thugs so we have every right to defend ourselves and the person who who is sayin that in the america this isnt happening well u need to look a bit closer to ur own country because they r the worst kind goin

I am not talking about one single incident but the whole nature of muslims living in England.

The Pakistanis who moved to England are mostly from mirpur who came to work in the cotton mill industry when there was flooding in Mirpur and there was opportunity in England.

When the cotton industry collapsed in England in 1970's, they had no other skillset and didnt want to return back to Pakistan and thus formed ghettos where they were on welfare.

They continued to bring and sponsor relatives from the same area whose mindset is the same and thus the cycle continues.

Where as people moving to Canada and USA have to be on a point system.

So its not rubbish. :)

You are living in the past. It was true for the earlier generation but from what I see now things are turning around very fast and Muslim kids are in school in great numbers. So harping on about the early 60's and 70's is no longer relevant. I know as I am closely involved and the figures coming out in the next few years will show a very different picture.

There are more Pakistani origin people in the UK Parliament, local authorities , mayors etc than any other ethnic group in UK. Currently there are at least two Pakistani origin ministers in the cabinet. So you see generalising doesnt pay. How many Pakistani origin ministers do you have in canada and US for that matter.