Brelvi and Deobandi fiqh (Do we need them?)

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@khoji

I can also google-search many opinions from various other ulema about what is the correct way of performing milad in their opinion.
I would rather not talk about HOW TO PERFORM THE CORRECT MILAD MEHFIL. Do whatever you please. This is not the thread to justify your beliefs over others.

Like I said, it is just your perception which others may not agree with. This is similar to others saying that deobandis disrespect the Prophet and bring him down to our level. But when I said that I got a very harsh reaction from shardmanny. And it is understandable. However, what you guys need to realize is that just like you get upset when someone gives you their piece of mind, similarly others get offended by your sweeping shouts of “kafir” and “mushrik” about others. In fact these calls are a lot more offensive than what others call you.

And this is why I was saying that you should not be judgmental about others.

Do whatever you want but don’t resort to violence.
It is this “holier-than-thou” attitude which results in violence and intimidation by deobandis towards other Muslims. This is why Taliban called their war against other Afghan Muslims a “jihad”. As if they were fighting non-Muslims.

That’s the problem.

I don’t know why your going all defensive, if you had read my posts with an open mind without putting my political views before everything else, maybe you would realize I respect barelvis as brothers and never once I called them mushrik or whatnot.

Nobody is talking about the “correct” way of performing milad. All I stated were facts on the ground (subcontinent), if you want to turn a blind eye to the fitna, go ahead. There are many who commit shirk because of such gatherings and extreme use of tawassul. You want to tell me, ulema have fatwas approving this? Subhanallah…

And let’s not go into politics because I can open up a can of worms on groups connected to barelvis (dawat-e-islami..etc) and it will not look so nice because it’s just that, politics. Not to mention you have a distorted view on the history of Afghanistan wars and groups. At least educate yourself on Taliban instead of recycling the same old CNN nonsense that every Tom Dick Harry are spewing.

@shardmanny

deobandis are not linked to violence as much as they are known for their non capitulation in the face of political adversity. its an issue the school win and lose many followers over. for this aspect, i think it is a grave sin to give up on the ummah politically, the Prohpet salllallahu alaihi wasallam would not have done it.
as regards to the implementation of sharia in afghanistan, did the Prophet pbuh really relay us a religion we are not supposed to implement in our own lands? naudhubillah

:k:

Bro, people have this nationalism pride, don’t know why when this same pride results in death and destruction. That’s why this ummah looks hopeless, dead!