The Sunni orthodoxy and Tradition that is based on the four schools of law(Hanafi, Shafi’, Maliki and Hanbali), two schools of Speculative Theology (Maturidi and Asha’ri) and Sufi Brotherhood were completed during 1300. In the Late Sunni tradition a scholar would choose one school of law, one school of Speculative Theology and one method of Sufi Brotherhood.
Now, what is the purpose of these two schools/fiqh (Brelvi and Deobandi) and why do we need to follow them?
Were there any political or racial reasons to start these two schools? I doubt if anyone except Indians and Pakistanis (and perhaps Bangladeshis) follow these schools in the world.
Deobandis are not against tasawuf, you are right there, but they also do not practice it like Brelvis. Deobandis respect all geat awliya and some of them also follow path of tasawuff but majority of ordinary deobandis and many of their scholars do not. But nearly all brelvis are mureeds of some pir/sheikh.
Need? i dunno, they have evolved and deveopled into two schools of thought within hanafis.
Deobandis attach themselves to Deoband, India
Barelvis attach themselves to Bareili (sp?), India.
They both Hanafi in fiqh.
Darul uloom Deoband is one school that has revived the sunnah throughout the world via other darul ulooms around the world and graduates of these schools.
It is not right to say they don't agree with tassawuf, they do! But their stance on this issue is that one should not just focus on tassawuf alone. make sense? Anyway, there are great scholars who are graduates of Deoband who you can call sufis.
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To my barelvi brothers, what's up with the green flags? :D
These are quite ambiguous points and no wonder why they're always fighting to prove each other wrong.
See the point of Barelvi hazraat is that all the above qualities (still alive, alimul ghaib, always present, and noori) are the shaan of Risaalat and acceptance of them is how we can pay utmost respect to our beloved Prophet, and those who dont accept it are committing Toheen-e-Risalat, in fact nullifying the status of Risalat
Deobandis say that these are the attributes of Allah swt only and saying that a non-allah can have these attributes is nothing less than Shirk
Now because Wahdaniyat (oneness of Allah) and Eeman on Risalat of Prophet Mohammed are the key requirements of being a Muslim, from each party's point of view, the other is violating one requirement hence they are not muslim anymore.
See the point of Barelvi hazraat is that all the above qualities (still alive, alimul ghaib, always present, and noori) are the shaan of Risaalat and acceptance of them is how we can pay utmost respect to our beloved Prophet, and those who dont accept it are committing Toheen-e-Risalat, in fact nullifying the status of Risalat
Deobandis say that these are the attributes of Allah swt only and saying that a non-allah can have these attributes is nothing less than Shirk
Now because Wahdaniyat (oneness of Allah) and Eeman on Risalat of Prophet Mohammed are the key requirements of being a Muslim, from each party's point of view, the other is violating one requirement hence they are not muslim anymore.
I actually agree with Brelvis but I also agree with some points of deobandis.
There are differences even among deobandis, there are wahabi influenced and then there are traditional deobandis.
^ Similarly, I don't think Allah actually lives in Baitullah, the Ka'abah.
Nor do I think that the three pillars who get stoned are the actual shaitans.
It depends on what is defined as ‘alive’. For example, Quran calls martyrs alive but have we seen any martyr walking amongst us?
Prophet is not alimul ghaib on his own. He has knowledge as bestowed by Allah.
It is like we calling someone a just person, even though we know that ultimte Justice is with Allah. And anyone else showing justice is what is given by Allah.
I guess we can make anyone present in our mind. Anytime, anywhere.
آزمائش شرط ہے
is still alive, alimul ghaib, always present, and noori?