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Did someone actually say immoral? A strong choice of word. There are many natural human desires and functions that are not immoral in and of themselves. But when executed outside the parameters of Islam, they become indecent. Maybe some might reach the status of immoral such as zina, etc.
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I don’t really think you have much ground under your feet considering you equated it to defecating which implies that it is immoral. You don’t have to say the words for others to understand what you meant.
The whole point of this is not whether or not people will do it. The point is whether or not people should judge another person for doing it… clearly everyone is judging those who do breastfeed in public. which I think is insane and horrible, but w/e.
I don’t want to do it not because of religious reasons or people being pervy, but because of people like you who would judge me for feeding my baby on the spot.
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Everyone judges, Kakee. It’s a very innate and automatic behavior; we do it all the time. Do you not judge which of two shirts is better, which job is better, which home or car best meets your needs, which course of action is most proper or ethical? Yes, you do, you judge all the time with inanimate things, so it doesn’t switch off automatically when it comes to assessing people unless you make a conscious effort. Nobody has “judged” as far condemning a women who breastfeeds to the fiery depths of hell, nor has anyone branded her a sinner or shunned her as an outcast. But yes, it was “judged” as inappropriate if it’s done inconspicuously. You feel that there is nothing at all wrong with it and newsflash sweetie, but even your opinion is a “judgment.” We all judge, you’re not above what you’re accusing me of; the only difference is that you prefer your judgment to mine and to each his own. I am not in favor of meeting the needs of one human being (in the case an infant) in exchange for the discomfort of several others as well as the mother ..along with the risk of verbal abuse (lewd comments) sneers and the like. I don’t get this type of limited rationalizing; it’s not thorough…it does not entail critical thinking…it seems more like emotional instant gratification to me.
Ahan, I did use the defecating example to point out that certain natural acts of exposure when done in public make others uncomfortable and are inappropriate. Now if you chose to stretch my example soooo far as to read “immorality” in it when I hadn’t intended it, you’re welcome to exercise this level of defensiveness.
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The world according to kakee 
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LOL…like I said before…everyone here wants to support un-covered breast-feeding in public as long as its OTHER women doing it and getting judged for it.
Be like the helicopter PTA parents or the people who join fraternities/sororities…they certainly aren’t stopping what they do b/c they get judged by people like you. Do what you think is best for you/your baby as long as its not hurting people.
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Actually, it’s not me who’s judging here. That is what YOU are doing. You are judging a person for breastfeeding a child. you don’t have to do it. So, why are you making it an issue? You don’t want to be in the presence of someone who is breastfeeding? Excuse yourself then.
It’s that simple.
Breastfeeding has existed long before you ever had and even before there was so much sexism against women.
You are right, khattichic. This is the world in which I live in. A world that has people who think they can judge a person for breastfeeding solely because they choose not to cover themselves. You don’t like it. You find it strange and you won’t do it. That’s perfectly fine, but it is not acceptable for someone, a woman especially to judge another for what they choose to do.
I can say the same thing about hijabs and there are a lot of people who say it’s strange, oppressive etc etc. You would be offended too, right? It’s the same thing.
I believe in people’s choice. One should be able to have the choice to choose freely. Whether it be breastfeeding, wearing a head scarf or abortion.
It’s their choice.
I don’t have a child so I don’t know how I’ll be or what I’ll care about in the future, but right now my view is that the world is changing. As in it’s becoming more and more acceptable to breastfeed in public and I support it.
You don’t have to, but you also can’t judge the person for doing it.
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You’re barking up the wrong tree here pal. If you had any comprehension skills whatsoever, you would have deduced by now that I am the biggest breast feeding advocate you’ll ever meet. I exclusively and successfully breastfed my eldest for 14 months straight and then exclusively breastfed my twins (that means two babies) for 6 months…so yea, I have no issues a****t all with breastfeeding moms. What I, and many others here have said, is that while out in public, there are many alternatives and ways to discreetly nurse in public that involve undressing from the top and baring the top half of your body in front of people who may find in uncomfortable. How, pray tell, is that being judgmental? Not a single judgement was passed, except by you, which is habitual, haina? (should I translate that for you?).
Like all other guys on GS, I am also following this thread with a keen interest, and wants to ask a question on behalf of most of the guys.
Why not cover? OK in some cases, maybe the baby does not like it, but in most of the cases, it seems that the mothers do not want it to be covered. Why?
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because, they are exhibitionist? 
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plenty of mothers cover tlk bhai, in fact most do.
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Now this is something I agree with you 100%. We all are free to choose. If a mother wants to whip out her breasts in public and breastfeed without using a cover or attempting to be discrete…then by all means she can do so. However, the flip side of that is I, and others around her are free to choose to look down and judge the woman who is doing it. The choice to choose freely goes both ways.
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Uff…keep up! Why do you have a problem with women’s breasts? They’re not only sexual things you know. Breastfeeding is a natural act…why should these women cover? How dare you judge and expect these women to go through the horror up covering up simply b/c YOU can’t come to terms with the natural and wonderful act of breastfeeding! 
P.S. As a guy, please share…what do YOU think when you see a woman breastfeed in public without a cover or any type of discretion? How would you feel if your wife or daughter or bahu did this in the future?
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It’s a person’s choice. If they want to cover if they want to wear minimum to maximum amount of clothing. If they want to wear a Hijab or not. It’s a person’s choice.
Why should other’s have a say in it? If the mother feels comfortable breastfeeding in public without a cover so what? And some of you mentioned, well, people look! So? If the mother cared about what other people thought then she wouldn’t do it in the first place and that is partially why a lot of women don’t.
I know people who find Hijabs uncomfortable so will Hijabis stop wearing Hijab? No, right?
So, you are an advocate for breastfeeding as long as the mother abides by the rules set by you? There is nothing wrong with breastfeeding. A woman shouldn’t be shamed into not doing wherever/whenever she wants to. If she doesn’t want to cover herself then it’s her choice. Why is that so hard to understand?
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Where’d you get the idea that “most women” don’t want to be covered? I haven’t conducted a poll, bit since when does Kakee and and her ikka-dukka supporter represent the majority of women?
Exactly. In fact, in USA, in last 20 plus years, I don’t even remember a single incident where I came across such sight, but in this thread, I have seen a supporting POV, so asked.
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Agree with Paheli. I want to know the male take as well, not that you represent all men…but being a man…why do you feel that women should make an effort to cover while nursing in public?
Where’d you get the idea that “most women” don’t want to be covered? I haven’t conducted a poll, bit since when does Kakee and and her ikka-dukka supporter represent the majority of women?
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When i said “in most of the cases”, I meant in most of the cases amongst the very small group that is OK with the public display
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Answer that carefully TLK Bhaiyya, you’ll be labeled and judged as a misogynist otherwise 
Paheli, can we keep the discussion general and not make it personal please. At least keep my bahu and beti out of this. Thanks
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My apologies. Will you answer it in general then? What will go through your mind if you were sitting as Jason’s Deli and all of a sudden a woman popped out a breast in the table across from you and started feeding without covering up?