Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"'

Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"

Younis loses it because he takes great pride in who he is. He is perhaps oversensitive and tends to perceive everything as personal insult but we know most pathans are like that. But despite all that he was my preferred choice (and still is) as captain because he's energetic and lively on the field, a real fighter..........but if he does n't want it what can we do.

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Pakistan cricket team relies on 3 world class batsmen (Yousuf, Inzamam, and Younis) and 3 good bowlers (S Akhtar, Kaneria and Asif). I believe that once mediocre player like Shoaib Malik is appointed as Captain, players with world class performance may soon stop playing for Pakistan or stop performing to their potential (especially Yousuf, Inzamam, Younis and Shoaib Akhter).

Other players would also get messages that performance does not matter. Any player with performance better then Pakistan captain would expect to get selected before Captain and if not, that player would know that performance is not criteria for selection; it is Shafarish, like/dislike or nepotism.

Hence, players would give up on making their performance better. Even those that are not in the team, they would stop working hard on cricket with belief that performance could not find them a place in team. They would be looking for Shafarish and if they could not find one, they would just give up.

Just try to answer, why Hasan Raza, Faisal Iqbal, Taufeeq Umar, Yasir Hameed, Imran Farhat, Asim Kamal, Salman Butt and many others, much better batsmen then Shoaib Malik, with much better performance in first class cricket, some even in test and ODI, do not even have place in test team, but Shoaib Malik has, why?

It is obvious that when a person plays under a Captain with mediocre performance, overall performance suffers. Players start believing that performance is secondary thing to get respect, get included in team, or keep place in the team. Thus, they stop working hard on training, resulting in their lower performance and thus decline in Cricket standard country wise.

For instance, players like Mohammad Yousuf must have earned enough (in money and recognition) and would not be playing for money or recognition. Thus he would be playing for country. But when seeing that country don’t care about performance and rewards players with sub performance (even make a player Captain that cannot even justify to be in team on performance), obviously he would either stop playing or would stop worrying about performance.

Just imagine difference in test performance of both players:

Yousuf made 6553 runs in 126 test innings at average of 56.00, making 23 centuries and 27 fifties.
Shoaib Malik made 941 runs in 29 test innings at average of 37.64, making 1 century and 5 fifties.

ODI performance:
Yousuf made 7861 runs in 232 matches at average of 41.81 (SR of 74.2), making 12 centuries and 52 fifties.
Shoaib Malik made 3524 runs in 137 matches at average of 33.56 (SR of 77.16), making 5 century and 21 fifties.

Inzamam performance was as good as Yousuf. So, it was OK for Yousuf to perform while Inzamam was Captain.

Now, what is the incentive for Yousuf or any other player, to perform, especially those that are better or comparable performance that of Shoaib Malik, to work hard on their training and perform?

Note: Yousuf was Vice Captain with comparable performance to Inzamam in Pakistan team (difference was that Inzamam was senior). Then his performance deteriorated and Younis Khan Performance in test overtook Yousuf performance, resulting in management sacking Yousuf as Vice Captain and making Younis Khan Vice Captain. [This happened even though Yousuf performance in ODI was far better then Younis, actually it was better performance then even Inzamam]

Anyhow, Yousuf had bumper 2006 session in test cricket and over took not only Younis Khan test performance, but also Inzamam test performance.

Anyhow, I am giving up. If that is what Pakistan deserves and people wants, a sub standard Captain. good luck. :). For some, only time would tell if such decision could pay or not.

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Yes. And that kind of behaviour is not suited to a leader.
And yes again. We can’t do anything except argue amongst ourselved. The frustrated fans that we are.:teary1:

Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"

Mohammad Yousuf is a great teammate.

Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"

^ Sure is. Good for him.

Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"

Probably a good decision, but what about the other playing X?

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A team is selected from players playing first class cricket. Once given a chance in test, a player might have good start showing higher test average then first class average, or might have bad start and their test average show lower figure then first class average, nevertheless, slowly over time their test average settles down and converges with their first class averages. (Both test and first class average becomes similar to each other).

Check the average of any player playing test cricket over long period of time and one will see that their test average and first class average is more or less, similar.

Hence first class average of a player is good indication of that player eventual test average too.

Here are first class averages of current Pakistani test cricketers: Check it carefully and see where Shoaib Malik stands and ask yourself that player like Hasan Raza (with average over 50 and 29 centuries, more then even Mohammad Yousuf), why he only got 7 test chances, whereas players having much lower averages got umpteen numbers of chances?

Actually, amongst Pakistani players that also played Test, only 3 have averages in 50s, and 3 in 40s. Rest are below 40s. But only ONE has average even below 30, made much less first class runs and centuries, and still he is in test team. WHY?

Check the figures (first class figures include test runs) and ask yourself that if all is fair in Pakistan? Think and try to answer that the currency in Pakistan Cricket, is it ability and hard work OR Safarish, personal like/dislike and nepotism?

The figures below are true from players record on 17th Apr 2007 (ref: Cricinfo) :)

Average above 50.00
Mohammad Yousuf …Ave: 50.76 (8833 runs, 27 centuries) 75 test
Inzamam-ul-Haq:…… Ave: 50.69 (16679 runs, 45 centuries) 118 test
Hasan Raza ………..… Ave 50.60 (9260 runs, 29 centuries) 7 test

Averages above 40.00
Younis Khan: ………..Ave 49.93 (7889 runs, 24 centuries) 53 test
Imran Farhat: ….…..Ave 42.67 (6625 runs, 17 centuries) 27 test
Faisal Iqbal: …………Ave 41.42 (6338 runs, 13 centuries) 18 test

Averages 35 - 40
Salman Butt: ……….. Ave 38.10 (3582 runs, 9 centuries) 14 test
Taufeeq Umar: ………Ave 37.90 (5876 runs, 10 centuries) 25 test
Asim Kamal: ………....Ave 37.71 (4366 runs, 8 centuries) 12 test
Yasir Hameed: …..…Ave 36.12 (5780 runs, 12 centuries) 29 test
Bazid Khan: ……….…Ave 35.44 (4431 runs, 8 centuries) 1 test

Averages 30 - 35
Abdul Razzak: ……….Ave 33.47 (4620 runs, 8 centuries) 46 test
Mohammad Hafiz: ...Ave 32.93 (4875 runs, 10 centuries) 10 test
Shahid Afridi: ………..Ave 32.10 (5105 runs, 12 centuries) 26 test
Azhar Mahmood: ….Ave 31.51 (6083 runs, 8 centuries) 21 test
Kamran Akmal: ……..Ave 31.49 (5071 runs, 8 centuries) 33 test

Average below 30
Shoaib Malik: ………..Ave 28.47 (2762 runs, 6 centuries) 18 test

Now, if Shoaib Malik justifies a place in test, why not those that have much better figures than him? If Shoaib Malik deserves to be captain of Pakistan team, why not others. Is it because he is Malik while others are not? Are all the above players not Pakistanis and deserve same treatment? What is so special about Shoaib Malik? Please, if anyone knows the answer, enlighten us too.

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^ I don't know anything special about Malik apart from him being probably one of the very few decent fielders in the side.

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I say make Hassan Raza the captain. after all the stats are the king and all that matters is batting average, nothing else.

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Imran & Javed saying Younis has created a crisis by refusing the captaincy, Imran wishes Malik good luck and thinks he can be a good captain.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/cricketNews/idUKISL26494920070417

Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"

Yeah but Jayasuria's played over 300 games for that average...so over a course of time...his average is likely to suffer...but Younis has only played 150 ODIs and as such his average should be a lot higher, especially since he's been coming in at 3 for most of those innings. Vaughan may be a good Captain but all signs are that his days as a ODI player are numbered, and he may just be playing and leading in Tests from now on - thats what the Pommies are saying anyway.

Kher, Younis is a good test player...but not a good enough ODI player. I think ODI cricket is as important as Test cricket - both forms of the game are important and as such performances in both forms should count towards the value of the player. In a way, its a blessing he's gone - now Shoaib Malik can go in at 3 - a position where he's done well and gotten 100s for Pakistan before.

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Imran was one of the reasons cry baby Younis got the Vice Captaincy in the first place. Whoz gonna take Imran out to the woodshed ?!

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^ Chalo hum dono lekar chaltay hain…
:laat:

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Ho hi jaey phir...lekin aaj kaal bechara waise hi phasa hua hai...Sometimes BB is stabbin him in the back, sometimes its the Maulvis...looks really confused on the taslk shows, does Imran:D

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Younis can have an average of 1000 for all I care. he does not display the right characteristics for leadership. Cries like a baby and flip flops every time. Not a captain material at all.

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I think Younis should be appointed VC to Malik.

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Yaar Ehsan Bhai,

I propose your name for the next PCB Chairman, it is this radical thinking that will change Pakistan, going round and round in circles is not going to change anything, it reminds me of that heat stricken dog trying to bite his backside and keeps going round and round in circles with no avail that makes him madder and go faster but at the end of the day he still has'nt achieved anything. The same applies to our cricketing affairs.

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By the way, now that we have talked all about Mr Malik's poor batting averages and other cricketing skills, how are his PR skills? I can't recall any of his MoM speeches, so any of you have any idea, how he handles press, is he presentable to the media, does he have good command over urdu/english etc?? You know the ususal irrelevant but important stuff...

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He is not that bad in urdu. I don’t know about “angrezee” though.

You can watch him after throwing the match in this famous one…

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He's quite dull and boring from what I have seen so far