Re: Breaking: Judicial commission rejects PTI's claims for election rigging
Democracy is for educated & civilised societies only, not for cheap, uncivilised, illiterate masses (read emotional fools) that sadly decide the fate of elections in desi societies.
Not to redirect thread to different direction, but you could not be more wrong. Democracy has nothing to do with literacy rate, but it represents will of the people. You don't need to be educated to know what/who represents your best interest & only you're judge of that. This this type of emotional tirade does no one any good & nor is blaming democracy of failure of system-a system that was never been allowed to be matured by military who was/is all things that matters.
Re: Breaking: Judicial commission rejects PTI's claims for election rigging
WOW, Pti followers justify any harm their cult leader does.
To them, Imran is more important than Pakistan.
Please dont use PPP logic on me or PTI.
I believe Imran stood for a cause, not for anything personal. His cause was valid and correct. People supported him. Just because of a no decision we cannot say that whatever PTI or Imran claimed was false, because your own party was one of the first claimants of the same fact.
As for harm done, we have been through this before. No need to repeat what i said before. Twin cities were hemorrhaged by the ruling party, not PTI.
Re: Breaking: Judicial commission rejects PTI's claims for election rigging
Right the attacks on Parliament, PTV & GEO TV buildings were done by who?
You say no Gullu Butts in PTI? They do have recording devices now...called cameras. For you viewing pleasure...if you need more let me know.
It was PAT and everyone knows it. And there was plenty of evidence pointing at an inside job as well. Just because you post a video with the caption PTI and PAT doesnt mean PTI was involved. You can keep stuff like this for you own viewing pleasure.
Re: Breaking: Judicial commission rejects PTI's claims for election rigging
Not to redirect thread to different direction, but you could not be more wrong. Democracy has nothing to do with literacy rate, but it represents will of the people. You don't need to be educated to know what/who represents your best interest & only you're judge of that. This this type of emotional tirade does no one any good & nor is blaming democracy of failure of system-a system that was never been allowed to be matured by military who was/is all things that matters.
Yeah just keep blaming only the generals. Democracy in Pakistan has been raped by feudal lords, waderas and sardars. They are equally to blame.
I was also pointing to the difference between how people in western societies conduct themselves on election day (just business as usual, nothing feels different) and the chaos, frenzied emotion and mayhem that is the hallmark of desi elections. So yes western societies are more organised, mature and civilised.
Re: Breaking: Judicial commission rejects PTI's claims for election rigging
It was PAT and everyone knows it. And there was plenty of evidence pointing at an inside job as well. Just because you post a video with the caption PTI and PAT doesnt mean PTI was involved. You can keep stuff like this for you own viewing pleasure.
More proof that Pti followers are delusional.
To them Imran and PTi can do nothing wrong - even when it on camera!
To them Imran and his lota's are perfect and the rest of the country is wrong and corrupt!
Re: Breaking: Judicial commission rejects PTI's claims for election rigging
Yeah just keep blaming only the generals. Democracy in Pakistan has been raped by feudal lords, waderas and sardars. They are equally to blame.
I was also pointing to the difference between how people in western societies conduct themselves on election day (just business as usual, nothing feels different) and the chaos, frenzied emotion and mayhem that is the hallmark of desi elections. So yes western societies are more organised, mature and civilised.
How come democracy works so well for other countries that are not literate? India, our very own neighbor with so many similarities (not to mention the fact starting from the same endeavors) fared so well? The first thing that comes to mind is the military intervention in politics we have which they never had. Yes, we cant just blame the beloved Generals alone but in India the politicians were given a chance to get seasoned and learn from their mistakes and eventually turn into great administrators. In our case, we made sure no one got the opportunity to do that. You also eliminate many aspiring to be good politicians when you start a decade long military regime. Yes, feudal land lords etc. are bad but keep in mind the military which almost ruled the country as long as the short stinted democracies could have passed decent land reforms and meaningful measures to curb the ill effects of feudalism. Unlike their democractic counterparts, they enjoyed decades of unopposed rule too.
Re: Breaking: Judicial commission rejects PTI's claims for election rigging
How come democracy works so well for other countries that are not literate? India, our very own neighbor with so many similarities
I always thought its because nahro him self participated in their national assembly.
We were unlucky and lost Qaid-e-azam, had he participated in political process for 10, 15 years,
people would have respect. I think.
Re: Breaking: Judicial commission rejects PTI's claims for election rigging
Since the previous elections were free/fair and transparent I don't understand why judicial commission wants the electoral process to be reformed? Why change a system which is working effectively?
Re: Breaking: Judicial commission rejects PTI's claims for election rigging
Since the previous elections were free/fair and transparent I don't understand why judicial commission wants the electoral process to be reformed? Why change a system which is working effectively?
Pardon my French, but that is because u simply donot have capability to look into things without being biased
The commission have pointed out mismanagement and whatnot in its report and have rubbished the allegation of organized rigging in favor of PMLN....is that so difficult to understand???
The EC of Pak do not have man power to conduct elections..those who are borrowed from other ministries have no interest neither any training for the process as a matter of fact a person from Attock can be sent to Kot Radha-Kishan for his election duty...
The basic reform which is required, is to have its own presiding officers atleast...
Last not least, elections in Pakistan are getting transparent had we not got interventions who knows we may had a better and more functional election commission at hand
Take out ur biased glasses and you may see glass half full
But i guess it is religous duty of PTIans to abuse and blame everyone as a soldout...everyone who do not agree with them or who issue judgement against the wish of God IK...bechara Nasir ul Mulk
Re: Breaking: Judicial commission rejects PTI’s claims for election rigging
Haaen haaen inni mayyusi? :nono:
I think that wont be the case provided IK brings the real change in KPK that he’s been promising all along. Thats why its important for him to focus and also ensure his strong presence in other provinces as a robust but positive opposition.
Remember there are a ton of people who still like IK though didnt support his dharna as it was a move in totally wrong direction and prolonging it worsened everything.
And this fact is totally true that he is surrounded by very wrong people who first give him all sorts of wrong suggestions that ultimately cause him embarrassment.
Re: Breaking: Judicial commission rejects PTI's claims for election rigging
I always thought its because nahro him self participated in their national assembly.
We were unlucky and lost Qaid-e-azam, had he participated in political process for 10, 15 years,
people would have respect. I think.
That is a valid reason and yes we were unfortunate to lose the Quaid so quickly but there were other distinguished ML leaders still there who were part of the Pakistan Bandwagon and very sincere to the country. Sadly, the Rawalpindi Conspiracy of '51 proves that the individuals in military were quick to move in and kick started the mess, a legacy fulfilled by airheads like Yahya, Zia and Musharraf.
Re: Breaking: Judicial commission rejects PTI's claims for election rigging
It was PAT and everyone knows it. And there was plenty of evidence pointing at an inside job as well. Just because you post a video with the caption PTI and PAT doesnt mean PTI was involved. You can keep stuff like this for you own viewing pleasure.
So, all those who attacked govt institutions and private businesses were PAT workers? And you know that based on what? TV footage clearly shows people with PTI flags destroying public/private property.
Re: Breaking: Judicial commission rejects PTI's claims for election rigging
So, all those who attacked govt institutions and private businesses were PAT workers? And you know that based on what? TV footage clearly shows people with PTI flags destroying public/private property.
And even if they were PAT members why didnt IK decide the same day to alienate its ways with Qadri being the leader of rioters and looters, rather he joined ties with him further declaring each other 'brothers' and announced to join the struggle... Only if Qadri had not ditched him I'm sure IK would have continued their alliance
Re: Breaking: Judicial commission rejects PTI's claims for election rigging
And even if they were PAT members why didnt IK decide the same day to alienate its ways with Qadri being the leader of rioters and looters, rather he joined ties with him further declaring each other 'brothers' and announced to join the struggle... Only if Qadri had not ditched him I'm sure IK would have continued their alliance
I think ptian have very short term memory. Open 'dharna' thread and you will see bhangrha day in day out for 24 hours for many months. PAT and PTI were then partners in kicking the butts of N$.
Re: Breaking: Judicial commission rejects PTI's claims for election rigging
PTI could never have proven anything in Pakistani courts. Ayyan Ali was caught laundering money and is free, same would be the fate of Musharraf. No one has been able to convict Nawaz Sharif (Mehran Gate/Supreme Court attack/money laundering etc), Shahbaz Sharif (who completed his last tenure on a stay order), Zardari and Altaf. All are innocent and can contest elections when ever they want.
Ayan is not free she was released on bail. The charges are still there.