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If you want to justify the terroristic behaviour of the British police in Ireland, then how far do you want to go back into Anglo-Irish history? Do you want to go and justify the acts of the British state in Ireland to the 45 million Irish-American community?
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^^ Great Faisal, let's just unwind the clock. Tell you what, lets evacuate all the Jews from Israel and move them to London, and move all the Muslims from London back to where ever. Fair enough?
Bombs that target civilians are the lowest of the low. You render your cause illegitimate when you intentionally target civilians. 88 tourists killed in Egypt yesterday, 55 people killed in London. Every bomb that goes off hardens the rest of the world. When Israel says to the world, "Do you see what we have to put up with?", it makes more sense to Londoners today than a month ago.
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^
What would you do if some plain-clothes people started chasing you? Would you kneel in front of them?
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If them identified themselves as police, especailly in London, you bet your butt I would. What would you do if you were the police and four suicide bombers tried to kill hundreds of your citizens for the second time in two weeks?
Moreover why would you run IF they identified themselves as police?
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why was this poor guy also shot through the back if there was suspicion he might be wearing a bomb?
“The victim was wearing a heavy padded coat when plainclothes police chased him into a subway car, pinned him to the ground and shot him in the head and torso.”
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Weren't the homicide bombers in plain clothes as well? Let the self righteous indignation reign for all the innocent victims, not just this guy.
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British police face demand for answers after innocent Brazilian shot dead
LONDON (AFP) - British police faced calls to explain why they gunned down an innocent Brazilian man in the hunt for the London bombers, as hopes grew that a growing pile of clues about the twin attacks could bring a breakthrough.
Brazil's foreign ministry demanded an explanation into the "lamentable error" which saw 27-year-old electrician Jean Charles de Menezes pursued through a subway station before being cornered and shot repeatedly in the head.
British Islamic groups called for a public inquiry into the shooting, worried that the Asian ethnic origin of some of the bombers could see Muslims targeted by police.
Terrified subway passengers scattered in panic on Friday morning as plain-clothed police pursued Menezes, who relatives said was going to work, through Stockwell Underground station in south London.
Witnesses said the Brazilian -- described as looking "like a cornered rabbit" -- fell to the floor in a train carriage before a policeman standing directly above shot him five times in the head.
"For somebody to lose their life in such circumstances is a tragedy and one that the Metropolitan Police Service regrets," London's police force said Saturday in their first admission they had killed an innocent man.
Initially, police said Menezes was linked to Thursday's attacks, noting that he was wearing a thick coat on a warm summer day, prompting fears he could be carrying explosives.
Massoud Shadjareh, head of the London-based Islamic Human Rights Commission, called for a full public inquiry.
"How can you shoot someone on mere suspicion? You can't even put someone in prison on suspicion, how can you kill them like that?" he said.
"This is very frightening, people will be afraid to walk the streets now," said Azzam Tamimi from the Muslim Association of Britain.
However, London's Mayor Ken Livingstone said police had done "what they believed necessary to protect the lives of the public".
Sunday's newspaper agreed that however tragic the outcome it was difficult to blame police for taking the action they did.
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Have there never been cases where people (re criminals) impersonate the police?
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Point is, American government has never shown any interest in talking about "unfortunate chain of events". According to them, the problem is here and now, and the fanatic radicals are against us because they "hate our freedom". If we start talking about "unfortunate chain of events" that is tentamount to understanding the causes of why are they killing us, and that will lead us to the path of treason. God forbid, we should even talk about why are people attacking us, except for the feel-good reason "they are evil people and we are the good guys (period)". The historical events that breed frustration and anger amongst these people should not be talked about, lest we actually end up talking about how to end the frustration. You know what, lets force democracy down the throats of these people, as that will surely solve their miseries. Right. Unless, ofcourse the four alleged guys who ended up as suicide bombers in London were all born and raised in the beacon of democracy, United Kingdom. Big help, democracy did to them.
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So this innocent guy could have thought that these plain-clothes persons were bombers, as well?
Let the self righteous indignation reign for all the innocent victims, including the thousands America has killed in Iran, Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as this guy.
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^ American Government is very clever....They know it all...They just want to make the Muslims impotent or powerless or kill them all enmass...
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^^ Root causes my Hairy White Arse. This is just fun to these guys. Stop talking like they are all motivated by the highest of principals. Killers of innocents should not be apologized for by the whole of the Muslim world. There ARE other ways.
These guys were seduced by pathetic propaganda that they should go kill innocents, and that somehow this had some pathetic religious/political purpose. Killing innocents can backfire. It can make the situation worse for you and your brothers. These guys were losers. Complete losers. And now some Brazilian gets killed as a result? That is sad, but not nearly as sad as the DAILY muslim bombs that are killing people.
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Reuters - Sat Jul 23, 8:46 PM ET An undated photograph taken from an identification card belonging to Brazilian electrician, Jean Charles de Menezes, who was killed by British police on July 22, 2005 as they combed London for four men after attempted bomb attacks on the city's transport system. Police admitted on July 23 that they had shot dead the wrong man, named by them as Menezes, a 27-year-old who had lived in London for the past three years.
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An undated photograph acquired by Globo TV shows Brazilian electrician, Jean Charles de Menezes (2nd R), posing with unidentified people. Menezes was killed by British police on July 22, 2005 as they combed London for four men after attempted bomb attacks on the city's transport system. Police admitted on July 23, 2005 that they had shot dead the wrong man, named by them as Menezes, a 27-year-old who had lived in London for the past three years
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Bingo! There goes the whole “unfortunate chain of events”. Stops right at 7-7. Ohioguy, you make America proud. Like a true patriot, you refuse to talk about the “unfortunate chain of events” when it doesn’t suit you. “Evil people” should suffice for now. After all thats what George W Bush says in all his speeches too.
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What a tragedy.
The Brazilian Foreign Minister is on his way to London to demand an explantion from the British government.
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Thanks to our neighbors on the west, we Indians - the most peace loving people on all of earth - will probably get the same "South Asian" treatment by the goras. Damn Pakis - spoiling it for everybody - including "South Asian" looking Brazilians.
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My heart goes out for you Biker11. Can I send you some mithai and phool for all the hardship and possible death?
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Seriously...Brazil should protest to Pakistan and not Britain...Its the Pakis who have damaged the image of South Asian looking thobraas everywhere.
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Consider changing your thobraa cz this is just gonna get worse. Plus the dude they shot doesn't look desi at all. So stay off white too
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May I suggest becoming a chapta, instead, for the time being. Get a Season Ticket from your plastic surgeon, just to be on the safe side.
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I don't know how he looked when he was shot (this is an earlier photo) but I have at least one experience of being mistaken for a Mexican . So I guess some latinos do look like South Asians and vice-versa.