boys views requested please

I just wanted some thoughts

Very few things take me to the stage where my mind gets so confused that I have to wake up properly to think about it

anyway

some of your views would be appreciated
scenario
Pak girl has had a number of boyfriends from the age of 16
she has slept with some of them

he family know, about the BF’s and the sleeping around
she doesnt get on with her family

the BFs dont want to marry her so now she will advertise on a marriage website

BUT

she states she will not tell any potential husband before or after marriage obout her past

because in Islam..“past is the past” and doesnt matter and doesnt have to be divulged

^^^ is that true?

would you partners past matter?

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well it doesnt really matter, but if she wants a rishta from a website then they might find out her past, tell her to go to another city and start over, even though its sad, but thats how our culture is

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i dont know if it matters, but I sure know it hurts like hell.

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you know, the truth will surface eventually, so she shouldn't try to hide her past, coz it is deception. If she's repentant, I'm sure there will be some guy willing to marry her despite her past.

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A 'dark' past is forgivable. Lying to the person you want to share your life with is unforgivable. It negates the very essence of commitment/marriage. Am I right?

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what is its not seen as lying but more a

"withholding information"

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Then the guy finds kinky latex cat-woman suit in the back of the closet and freaks out.......

Or digs it, who knows.....

Also, the woman may well have aquired "skills" which make marriage more interesting. Trust me on this....

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:hmmm: Withholding relevant information in a corporate contract is illegal and punishable. You can not withhold information from a person you want to spend your life with. At least, this is how I perceive it. The contract would be void the day truth is discovered.

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i agree that withholding info is bad bad bad....if, after meeting a potential mate for a few times, she's still not being up-front then I'd consider it to be presenting herself untruthfully.

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Well I’m married to the love of my life who is as pure and clean as me (:D) so question doesn’t really apply to me :blush: but hypocthetically speaking if I was faced with a situation like that I would never ever marry such a girl, the Internet is the last place you would look for a wife anyway, what sort of a sad old geezer looks through matrimonial sites?

I would feel extremely uncomfortable, how can you have kids with a woman whose been used like a condom? What would your daughters do when they grow up? Who would want a woman like that in the house if they have younger sisters living with them?

You have to think about the future of your family, marriage isn’t just a one off, it will influence your whole lifestyle and that of your kids. Even my South Indian buddy says “Esa Ladki kaam ke liyey theek ha, leekin patni ke liye nahi”.

I know we like to act like white boys and have mohican style haircuts and wear pink tshirts but that’s where it ends, we dont have the same feelings, these things which seem absurd to them are deeply ingrained within us.

I know Islam says once you truly repent to God with the intention of never returning to the path of sin you are redeemed and you need not tell anyone, it is between you and HaShem. Now I respect that and hope I could be as forgiving as Allah wants me to be but alas I’m weak and although I wouldn’t disrespect or talk ill of a woman with a immoral past I could never marry one.

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Even though u barred me from replying i will make myself at home and reply anyway, there is a bit of man in every woman and a bit of woman in every man. Generally, and I mean very generally, people who have had a past themselves r usually the ones who even ask about their potential partners past. Why? Maybe to justify their own past, maybe they are comfortable with it all.

Someone who is truly not concerned about his/her partners past won;t even ask. I would never ask myself but if the information was volunteered I really can't say how I would feel about it. It would depend on the person and details provided.

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Femme, I beg to disagree. I have no 'past'. But if I ever decide to marry, I would like to know about her past. And my concept of 'purity' may be different from other people's concept of purity. Yes, it would depend on the person and the details provided.

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i said generally, very generally.

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If she has slept with um, wouldnt her hubby find out about it (as she wont be a virgin anymore) and i m sure her hubby would ask her all about it & the wifey wouldn't be able to hide anythin

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A person is the totality of their experiences. So if you love someone, it includes all of that too, as long as there is no lying or hiding of it. Different case when it isnt a love-match, of course you'd want to know where they've been and what they've done etc...but really isnt there too much emphasis on this particular topic?

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won’t the people on this message board get over the cat-woman persona already :rolleyes: really now OG, coming from you I am mighty surprised :snooty:

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he wasnt talking about you...

Was he?

EEEEKKK

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It is no guarantee of virginity because it can "pop" during heavy exercise such as cycling or riding a horse or inserting other things in there besides a penis. It can be artificially recreated through surgery.

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I could understand being 16, young, naive and opening your eyes into this cruel world, therefore making a mistake by sleeping with a guy BUT when you have multiple BF’s and even they don’t want to marry you, why anyone else should (specially if your lying/hiding it)? If you do the crime then do the time! As a Muslim girl she should’ve known better.

If I knew such a girl, I’d NEVER marry her and if I knew the guy she was marrying, you better believe I’d go and tell him to think twice about commiting to such a girl. Unless she tells the guy about her past, truthfully, and he’s okay with it. The past always comes back to haunt you. YOU CAN NEVER HIDE SUCH THINGS! If found out later then she will get divorced faster than you can say it!

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Hmmmn

I agree with all of you..i also dont believe that tehy will be able to maintain their secret and one day it'll come out

has anybody heard of this Islamic edict whereby the past doesnt have to be divulged?