I know my views may not be liked but this is atrocious. What would you guys do if pakistanies are involved and your govt wont hand over the Let commanders.
Similar situation led to America declaring war on Afghanistan. Dont you think this is getting out of control. How long will you still support these terrorist.
First of all I refuse to believe that few guppies here have behaved in an insensitive manner during this tragedy. And if there are some jerks around here, does that mean that you blame the whole country? My friend believe me, attitude like yours is a bigger problem than terrorism.
What kind of attitude. From Kargil to Kabul your govt have been denying roles when sufficient proof were given. So why does it become atrocious from first impression the culprits may have come from Pakistan.
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan— The chief of Pakistan’s powerful intelligence organization will make an extraordinary visit to India to assist in the investigation of the Mumbai attacks, Pakistani officials said Friday.
The decision to send Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha, the director general of Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, will mark the first time an ISI chief will visit rival India. It was not immediately clear, however, when Gen. Pasha would leave for India.
The move is being seen as an attempt by Pakistan’s civilian government to allay Indian concerns after accusations of Pakistani involvement in the attacks surfaced almost immediately.
In a televised speech Thursday, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh of India blamed forces “based outside this country” of involvement in the attacks. A day later, India’s foreign minister Pranab Mukherjee was quoted by the Press Trust of India as saying that, according to preliminary reports, “some elements in Pakistan are responsible.”
India and Pakistan, which have fought two wars, have repeatedly accused each other of fomenting unrest. While India has accused the ISI of abetting terrorism in the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir, Pakistan has accused India of supporting an insurgency in southwestern Baluchistan Province.
Distrust and acrimony between the two nuclear powers has hampered efforts toward normalizing relations. The Mumbai attacks, which killed more than 140 people, fueled apprehension that relations would between the two neighbors would plunge to a new low.
Pakistani officials said the decision to send Gen. Pasha to India was reached during a conversation between the prime ministers of both countries Friday.
“Prime Minister Syed Yousaf Raza Gilani called the Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh Friday morning at 11 a.m. to condemn the attacks,” Zahid Bashir, Mr. Gilani’s spokesperson said by telephone.
“The Indian prime minister stressed the need of intelligence sharing and evolving a joint strategy to counter terrorism. Dr. Singh requested the prime minister to send the D.G. ISI to India to help in the investigations,” Mr. Bashir said.
“Once the modalities are worked out, the ISI chief will leave for India,” Mr. Bashir said.
Officials here said President Asif Ali Zardari also called Mr. Singh to promise cooperation “in exposing and apprehending the culprits and the master minds behind the attack”, according to a presidential spokesperson.
Mr. Zardari said both countries should avoid being manipulated by militants.
General Pasha was appointed the head of ISI in September by the army chief Gen. Ashfaq Pervaiz Kayani. He previously served as the director general military operations for the Pakistani Army.
Pakistani analysts saw the move as an attempt by the government to placate Indian concerns at a time when its military is engaged in an effort to root out militancy in the semiautonomous tribal areas that straddle the border with Afghanistan.
“Sending the ISI chief to India is a clear olive branch from Pakistan and indicates just how seriously it is taking India’s anger,” said Cyril Almeida, an editor at Dawn, the country’s most prestigious English daily.
“It is an extraordinary step and indicates two things: one, the Pakistan military is confident that no direct links will be revealed by India; and, two, Pakistan is keen to avoid a repeat of the near-war situation following the attacks on the Indian Parliament in December 2001,” Mr. Almeida said.
“It seems the military and civilian government have realized that we have too much on our plate dealing with the tribal areas and terrorism in Pakistan proper to get involved in a dangerous slanging match with India over terrorism.”
As fkhan has mentioned, we don’t speak words like sarkar, shanti, janta etc in Pakistan. If for argument sake we think that terrorist was trained to speak these words so that he can deceive everyone its quite amazing that he was carrying “cell phone and sim of Pakistani mobile company” and on top of it they were receiving the call from “Pakistan” during all this ho-ha going on.
I, for one, feel this is a massive and much needed wake up call for India.
Indian embassy in Kabul was blown up some months ago and even though US Intelligence said at the time that they had proof of ISI involvement in the attack.....the Indian Govt chose to ignore it while continuing their romance with Pakistan.
As much as I like some of my Pak friends on this forum and in the real world....I have to say that the world (including India) needs to see Pakistan for what it is : THE GLOBAL HEADQUARTERS OF TERRORISM - a country which terrorists of all hues and nationality call home.
I, for one, feel this is a massive and much needed wake up call for India.
Indian embassy in Kabul was blown up some months ago and even though US Intelligence said at the time that they had proof of ISI involvement in the attack.....the Indian Govt chose to ignore it while continuing their romance with Pakistan.
Don't forget India's response to that in Pakistan.
As much as I like some of my Pak friends on this forum and in the real world....I have to say that the world (including India) needs to see Pakistan for what it is : THE GLOBAL HEADQUARTERS OF TERRORISM - a country which terrorists of all hues and nationality call home.
How innocently you have painted India as white Buddha which is smiling and forgot India's involvements in terror operation in the area not to forgot Baluchistan! Funding separatists and arming them to kill innocent civilians is not a lesser crime.
One side note, I think ISI should take this as a challenge and prove to the world that India has habit of blaming it on Pakistan
One side note, I think ISI should take this as a challenge and prove to the world that India has habit of blaming it on Pakistan
Well, to our disappointment that challenge was overcome by discovery of Indian army colonel who was investigated by ATS chief who somehow 'accidentally' got killed in the saga.
Some1, stop being ignorant. You know really well people in Pakistan don't speak the way the guy in that clip spoke. He was clearly an Indian. But you can choose to believe what you want to believe.
Some1, stop being ignorant. You know really well people in Pakistan don't speak the way the guy in that clip spoke. He was clearly an Indian. But you can choose to believe what you want to believe.
Please don't call genius a "ignorant", he thinks since Pakistan is not getting foreign cricket teams hence PCB sent these terrorists so no foreign cricket teams will visit India i.e. "hum to doobenge sanam, tumko bhi le doobenge".
^ Kaptaan, you can do better than distort my comments.
btw, the only terrorist caught alive - Azam Amir Kasab - **is a **Pakistani. Reports say that the websites browsed by some of the terrorists on their Blackberries indicate that some of them may be British nationals of **Pakistani **origin .
I don't think there is any doubt about the Pakistani connection. The only thing that is unclear is whether Pak Govt or the ISI contributed in these attacks.
We sent an unmanned mission to the moon a month ago....now we are being clubbed with two basket countries - Pakistan & Afghanistan - in terms of western perception of their safety. Unimaginable.
^ Kaptaan, you can do better than distort my comments.
Please enlighten us.
btw, the only terrorist caught alive - Azam Amir Kasab - **is a **Pakistani. Reports say that the websites browsed by some of the terrorists on their Blackberries indicate that some of them may be British nationals of **Pakistani **origin .
I was told that more than 3 have been captured, the one on phone was talking in Bengla style while trying to sound like a Punjabi. (Hint: Julum)
