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Blowing up schools and putting all women under house-arrest is no Islam. Also, waging fasad on your fellow-Muslims is no Islam either, nor is calling anyone kafir who does not agree with them. Just a few examples.
meray bhai, why stop there... let the whole truth come out. cutting people's heads up or floggin them in public will offend most Pakistanis but the religious nutjobs would argue that maybe the punished committed crime and Islamic punishments etc... it's retarded but they try to justify it just like Ansar Abbasi was on Geo justifying the flogging of the girl in Swat.
but what about raping and murdering young girls? I want to know what crime must have those girls committed? and where in Islam or sharia does it say that they should be punished by rape and then death? these girls were apparently as young as 11. don't believe me... watch Hamid Mir's show on December 31st. he said there are rape cases registered against Fazlullah's Taliban in Swat. what kind of Islam is this? what kind of oh so noble, divinely guided fighters are these? what are they fighting for?
and what must be kept in mind is that Hamid Mir is not Nusrat Javed either where he can be dismissed for being a lefty/liberal. Hamid Mir is a conservative and was the loudest proponent of that bakwaas Swat "peace" (capitulation) accord. but even on his show, the crimes of the Taliban were revealed.
so, all these ppl who defend the Taliban either agree with their inhumane barbarity or in their religious zeal doesn't allow them to look past the beards of these animals.
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the toll has risen to 89.... Another tragic and sad day for Pakistan.. ALLAH Mian, ab mazeed himmat nahin hai hum main.... please meray Malik, haamaain is fitnay saay azaadee dila...Ameen.
Taliban's were hard core Muslims YES.. they wanted to go by Islamic laws religiously YES... but they were never a terrorists nor they would blow up themselves in the mosque killing thousands and thousands of innocent Muslims.
You are confusing Taliban of Afghanistan with Taliban of Pakistan.
What do you mean by "Pakistan's favorite pet dog"? Isn't Pakistan taking all out actions against these morons? Aren't Pakistanis, including myself, defending Pakistan against those Taliban?
It would have been a lot easier for Pakistan to get rid of Taliban if Indians and Western-cum-Pakistanis like you were not here posting against Taliban, and giving Taliban sympathizers like MC12IT a reason to support Taliban.
Pakistan is taking action against only part of them.
There are 6 networks of extremists operating in FATA.
1 - Pakistani Taliban - led by Meshud and HQ in South Waziristan
2 - Afghan Taliban - led by Mullah Omar and HQ in Quetta
3 - Al Qaeda - led by Osama bin Laden and HQ in North Waziristan
4 - Haqqani Network - led by Haqqani and HQ in Afghan-Balochistan border
5 - Hekmatyar Group - led by Hekmatyar and HQ in Afghan - Balochistan border
6 - Jaish-e-Islami - led by Wali Rehman and HQ in Bajaur
And plus the numerous Punjabi militants who have allied themselves with these extremist groups and are responsible for the the daily shooting attacks in Rawalpindi/Islamabad and other cities in Punjab.
From all these groups, Pakistan is only fighting the Pakistani Taliban and haphazardly at best. Most of them fled to other agencies.
This is a growing cancer in Pakistan. Pakistan must deal with these groups with an iron fist that will permanently crush these animals.
Just look at Jordan in 1970 when it took out PLO terrorists or Turkey taking out PKK in Southern Turkey and Iraq or the Saudis going after Shia militants in Southern Saudi Border with Yemen.
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This crap is getting really nasty. I don't really care who is behind this at the moment, I just feel for the victims and their families of yet another devastating attack in Pakistan.
What do you mean by ‘haphazardly’? Pakistan first purged Swat, then S. Waziristan, and now it is doing operation in Orakzai and Kurram.
Actually who is NOT doing its job is NATO And US forces in Afghanistan. Taliban are gaining strength there, and US forces are planning to leave from there as soon as possible because this war is losing public support in their countries. In other words, US will run away from Afghanistan at its earliest, leaving Pakistan with the mess YET AGAIN after Soviet withdrawal.
http://www.infowars.com/mullen-says-u-s-losing-war-in-afghanistan
Mullen Says U.S. Losing War in Afghanistan
Alex Spillius
Telegraph
December 8, 2009
“We are not winning, which means we are losing and as we are losing, the message traffic out there to [insurgency] recruits keeps getting better and better and more keep coming.”
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It is just extremely sad . May Allah help Pakistan and Muslims . Ameen :(
Bro what do you mean purged?
All the militants fled of melted into the country side.
Its not totally Pakistan’s fault as it lacks the air-lift capability to transport ground forces into blocking formations.
And besides it made peace deals with other militant groups when it went after the Pakistani Taliban.
There is no such thing as a good taliban.
Well atleast they are going to give it one last shot.
The Taliban are terrorist, brainwashed extremist thugs who cannot be negotiated with only destroyed.
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Many of them ran away, this is why there is a need for operation in Orakzai and Kurram. But Swat and S. Waziristan are totally different today. All terrorist camps are destroyed. No more training.
While West may like to see that, but Pakistan can not go after every criminal all at once. Not even US can do it.
I agree. But looks like West is running away from the fight and trying to find good Taliban. This is why I say that Western-cum-Pakistanis and Westerners should stop accusing Pakistan and mind their own business.
Is talking to Taliban the right approach? - CNN.com
(CNN) – President Obama says the United States could be open to reaching out to some moderates in the Taliban in a manner similar to successful efforts with Sunni militants in Iraq.
Washington officials reportedly held secret negotiations with top Taliban and other militant commanders from Afghanistan, sources say.
A counterinsurgency strategy published by the British Ministry of Defense outlines the way forward for Afghanistan, saying negotiating with elements of the Taliban as part of a reconciliation strategy is not necessarily a sign of weakness.
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i am very depressed...a young friend of mine has martyred in the blast.
nearly 105 have martyred and 88 are injured.
one suicider is identified, he was local taliban..
people of lakki marwat r against talibans thats why are targeting us...
one thing is noticible that talibans have plans for finishing maliks and tribal leaders of lakki marwat as a week ago a suicide bomber blew before time to target the local malik of lakki marwat city.
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Death toll reached to 95.
37 shaheeds today buried in a mass grave.
Allah in sab kay darjat baland karay
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it looks like the work of zardari and altaf hussain style ...disgusting
it looks like the work of zardari and altaf hussain style ...disgusting
Sorry . This work is a result of Zia's dirty plays.
And they have still support of N$ , J.I. and other Zia's Alloys.
this so is the ghazwa-e-hind predicted by zaid hamid.
your right, the area geographically denoted by hind, hindustan and even the word india is current day PAKISTAN. but to be fair previous conquests have always gone further into hindustan then the current borders of pakistan limit
its 50/50 whether delhi will be included (if and whens included, of course)
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i couldn't agree any more with every word you have written. i hope all those cheering the "mujahids" on for the ghazwa-e-hind realize its their own butts thats in line first.
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whats unfortunate is the lack of coverage and gov support for the poor victims. Lakki has been one of the few places where the locals from day one have taken a stand against the militants. They don’t deserve to be ignored by the govt, media or people.
DAWN.COM | Front Page | Govt leaves villagers at mercy of criminals
PESHAWAR: Shah Hassankhel is a small dusty village of roughly 6,500 people on the outskirts of the southern district of Lakki Marwat.
Little did the unsuspecting poor denizens know that it would be one of their own kins who would bring death and destruction to their village.
Investigators say that Ibadullah, a young boy in his late teens or early twenties, drove an explosive-laden vehicle into a crowd assembled to watch a volleyball match, killing 114 people and injuring 37 others.
He went past a security checkpoint and drove through a street before setting off the deadly explosion– in the process also killing his own uncle.
The January 1 bombing in Shah Hassankhel was the second most devastating in the NWFP in about four months.
Of course, the October 28 bombing in Meena Bazaar in Peshawar was the most deadly of all, killing 121 people.
For some time, Shah Hassankhel, a village comprising some 500 houses, has been at loggerheads with militants also from the same village.
“They are not Taliban. They are thugs and criminals who are involved in kidnappings for ransom,” a villager said.
It was in August last year when villagers, who had vacated their homes to allow security forces to flush out militants, had decided to return and form their own peace committee to keep the anti-state elements at bay.
The government promised to give them weapons to defend themselves and keep the militants at arms’ length.
The promise remains unfulfilled. Nothing has come through since, neither the much-needed guns nor any bullets. In effect people of Shah Hassankhel were left to fend off for themselves.
The bombing was an action replay of the suicide attack on a jirga of pro-government tribal elders in Zargankhel area of Darra Adamkhel in March, 2008, that had left 43 dead.
It was followed by a more devastating bombing of a tribal jirga in Khadezai in Aurakzai on October 10, 2008, that had killed 136 people.
The government’s help to those who had taken up arms in defence of the state did not go beyond a one-time small cheque for Rs300,000 as compensation for the dead. The result: the tribal lashkars soon ran out of spirit and steam.
Where the government did extend some back-up and support to volunteers, the results were remarkable.
In places like the outskirts of Peshawar, local villagers have formed peace committees to fend off militants, often bearing the brunt of attacks and keeping the city safe.
But villagers and peace committee volunteers in Shah Hassankhel wonder whether the sacrifices they have rendered would go waste and unnoticed like those of Aurakzai and Darra Adamkhel.
The village has two primary schools and villagers say they no longer feel safe enough to send their kids to middle or high schools in neighbouring villages.
“It’s difficult to escort them to schools everyday. What if they kidnap our children to blackmail us into submission,” Mushtaq Ahmad Marwat, head of the peace committee, told Dawn.
To add insult to injury, they have to rent vehicles to patrol the village or go to other paces. Last month, they say, they had to chase the militants into the nearby mountains and stayed there for three straight nights to keep vigil before the security forces came in to help them.
“Now, the taxi wallas refuse to rent us their vehicle for fear of either being caught in a crossfire or reprisal from the militants. We can’t even go to Lakki,” Mushtaq lamented.
To make matters worse, there is no basic health facility in the village, so anybody falling sick or getting wounded in encounters with militants has to be taken to Lakki.
The terrain is dusty and people rely on rainfall for their farmland. There is only one tube-well which provides drinking water to the people and is used to irrigate the land.
So the Hassankhels may ask, what is in it for them to take up arms against the militants and lay down their lives for a state that is there only to offer lip-service and small pay cheques?
Their demands are very basic and may not need the national exchequer to cough up billions.
They ask how did the federal government jumped up to offer Rs3 billion to compensate those affected by the carnage in Karachi and while they got only statements of condemnation of the militants’ act.
How much, they ask, will it cost to build a couple of middle or high schools for them? How much will it cost the government to buy a few vehicles for them to patrol the streets? And how much will it cost to build a basic health unit, install a tube-well and provide some weapons to defend themselves?
Maybe not much. But Chief Minister Ameer Haider Khan Hoti said the NWFP was operating on a shoe-string budget, having allocated much of its development funds to shore up security and increase the capacity of law-enforcement agencies.
“I have asked Prime Minister Gilani to come and pay a visit to Lakki and I was hoping that he would make some announcements in this regard,” he told Dawn.
Mr Gilani didn’t arrive as scheduled due to inclement weather, the anxious Hassankhels were informed. That means that probably they will have to lick their wounds in a hopeless situation. “No, not at all,” says Mushtaq Marwat.“Our morale is quite high. We are determined to avenge the death of our people. Even if we have to go to Miramshah to get them, we will.”
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This is just soo sad. I wish something could be done to help this village.
Only 2 primary schools and no clinic or hospital, victims were treated on the floor, only one doctor......how can we all help????