Bloody CIA agent Hamid Mir & Khalid Khawaja exposed (WITH TAPED AUDIO CALL)

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So how does that make Khalid Khawaja a CIA agent as per your headline? :konfused:

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The secret **web of betrayal and treachery **– The untold story of Khalid Khawaja, Hamid Mir, Mullah Barader and Faisal Shehzad

Any links between the three?? Seems impossible! But not in this **high stakes State-sponsored dirty, sinister world of covert ops, double agents, sting operations **and assassinations.

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Remember what Hamid Meer did with Sh Rasheed just one day before election .
Last year before 27th December a wide publicity was made that HM is disclosing very important clues about assassination of Benazir Bhutto but there was nothing in program.

But No one can Buy Hamid Meer, Shahid Masood and Kamran Khan.

**No one can buy

***Hamid Meer , Shahid Masood and Kamran Khan.*

Already

**S O L D ***** **O U T**
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Some people love to believe the crap that Army is sitting their doing nothing, they are scared of strong talibans blah blah blah but fact is that they are ones fighting those monsters every day. They are the ones giving their lives.
As i said before, peoplehave reason to dislike army due to their corruption or wrong actions but that's probably 5% of the OFFICERS. an average soldier is fighting for the country and it's people day and night.

Now about the artificial lake in Hunza, have you been watching that on channels or just read the newspapers??? It's government's responsibility to make those decisions and i have been folllowing that news for many days now. Our soldiers have been helping villagers to take them to safety on boats risking their lives. It is their DUTY to do so but at least they are doing their job.
As for AJK earthquake relief efforts, no doubt there were corrupt officers (like any other Pakistani) but what about those hundred thousand soldiers who spent day and night hlping people????

At the end of the day, you are only gonna believe what you WANT to believe.

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A spill way is almost complete and in next 2-3 days it will start working however it can be dangerous if flow became out of control.

About earth quake

تصویر کا دوسرا رخ بہت بھیانک ہے - انہوں نے تین دن تک ہزاروں لوگوں کو مرنے کے لیے بے یار و مدد گار چھوڑ دیا وجہ نام نہاد دفاع

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firenze I thought the CIA, amreeka etc are the good guys right, so that makes CIA agent hamid mir a good guy as per your definition? If hes a good guy, tu phir rona kis baat ka hai aap ko?

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Khoki, what about altaf bhai's remarks about the military prior to his cousin musharraf becoming the COAS? Kaafi bakwas karta tha woh army ke barey mey, so hes also a scumbug CIA agent right?

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Spock:

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what about altaf bhai's remarks about the military prior to his cousin musharraf becoming the COAS?
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What about it? Don't you know that Altaf supports army even today when his "cousin" Musharraf is NOT the chief anymore?

Army has its shortcomings. Someone in previous page posted some of its shortcomings. Aisha Siddiqa even wrote a book called "Military Inc." about army's role in Pakistan's economy.
So army can be criticized but no one in the country should take arms against the army. Anyone killing a sipahi (or for that matter a policeman, same thing) is a criminal and should be brought to justice under Pakistani law.
This applies equally to all, including MQM workers, or PMLN workers, or PPP workers, or fasadi lunatics.

Taliban fasadis are terrorizing Pakistan today, and Army is the only institution that can clean this cancer.
The nation is one-voice on the need to eliminate militant terrorism from Pakistani soil.

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And remember Hamid Mir’s yellow journalism about Lal Masjid operation.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/412068-laal-masjid-drama-and-hamid-mirs-yellow-journalism.html

…When the students were paraded on to the sets of the show, they were at once addressed by the host of the programme: ‘Ghusa karna hai, accha!” (You have to be angry, okay!), he reminded them.

Though the students tried their best to sound angry and offended by the Lal Masjid operation, the host did not seem happy with their performance. So, during the commercial break, he angrily asked the students to be more convincing: “Yeh log aap kay bhai aur bhenoon ko maar rahey hain,’ (These people are killing your brothers and sisters), he announced. “Kya aap ko in pe ghusa nahin araha?” (Aren’t you all feeling angry at them?).

The guest students were bemused because (according to the narrator of this incident), though they were all very ‘Islamic looking’ and conservative, none of them could relate to the militant ways of the Lal Masjid clerics. Just before the show came back on air, the host insisted that the students make a better attempt at exhibiting outrage against the operation.

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lol firenze, what happened praa? cia kick u out of their little circle? what's up with u and anti-cia agenda now?

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firenze if your sat on hill holding a pretend rifle, tell us

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I dont want to derail the topic at hand, but let me clarify that i am supporting the pak army's effort agaist the fasadis. However, they were sitting on their collective a*ses untill the taliban showed up at the margala hills over looking isloo. When they feared that their way of posh life is thretened. Before that they were in denial.

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^ I totally agree. Taliban's existence is due to short-sighted and fanatic ideology that many of Army and intelligence generals shared.

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:D
U forgot to mention more job opportunities open at RAW and Mossad :D
so let me correct u 25% each CIA, Talibans,raw and mossad.

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Damn i forgot to add the isi
revision 20% each for isi,cia,talibs,raw and mossad :D Jobs galore!

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yeah im surprised at firenze's anti-amreekan post today too! whats next antiobl/burqaposh using DJing for mollah FM's radio channel! hahaha

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I disagree, he does not, because he is a traitor to the nation. Rest of the post, I agree with the context but I am no supporter of war.

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I used to feel sorry for this @ss when Mushrraf booted him of the air. Now it turns out that he is no better than Hakemullah and rest of the terrorists. I hope authorities are looking into his activities and I hope he faces changes in KK case for murder. How do we know that he wasn’t the one who help terrorist kidnapped KK?

http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010\05\16\story_16-5-2010_pg1_6

Hamid Mir’s terrifying indiscretions

LAHORE: A shocking audiotape of a conversation between Hamid Mir – one of the country’s top TV anchors – and a man purportedly linked to the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, has revealed that negative information that Mir passed on to the Taliban could have led to the execution of Khalid Khawaja, the retired Air Force official allegedly killed by a group calling themselves the ‘Asian Tigers’.

The tape – which has Mir divulging dirt on Khawaja, ostensibly to someone who is going to cross examine him – was first posted by the Let Us Build Pakistan blog, and picked up by other online publications, including Café Pyala. It is still unclear who made the tape, with online speculation suggesting that it could be the militants themselves, or even intelligence agencies who released the recording.

Whatever the source may be, it is clear that one of the voices on the tape is Mir’s, a fact corroborated by his allusions to events such as his sacking from the daily Ausaf. In the tape, the person on the other end asks Mir for information on Khalid Khawaja. The content of the conversation suggests that this call was made before Khawaja’s execution earlier this month. Mir goes on to detail what he knows about Khawaja’s background, linking him to the CIA, an international network of Qadianis and an American named Mansur Ejaz, who, Mir claims, even offered to solve the Kashmir issue.

At one point, the voice on the other end claims to have abducted Khawaja. Here, Mir volunteers further information linking Khawaja to the Lal Masjid operation, saying that Khawaja and his wife were the ones responsible for the death of Ghazi Rasheed and the humiliating capture of Maulana Abdul Aziz and his family. Mir then urges the man to cross-examine Khawaja about his relationship with Mansur Ejaz, Qadianis and a CIA agent named William Casey.

Mir also mentions Javed Paracha – the Kohat-based PML-N lawmaker who offered to mediate Khawaja’s release. Towards the end of the tape, the voice on the other end says that he will relay the information (that Mir has given) to Hakeemullah Mehsud. staff report

Points of interest in the conversation

  • Hamid Mir’s disparaging attitude towards Qadianis (in his own words, he considers them worse than kaafirs)

  • His nonchalance when suicide bombings or the looting of NATO trucks are mentioned

  • Mir’s repeated references to occasions where Khawaja has personally ‘betrayed’ him (He holds Khawaja personally responsible for his departure from the daily Ausaf)

  • The high degree of reverence with which Mir refers to Ghazi Rasheed, Javed Paracha and other terrorists, including Abdul Rehman Kennedy

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I havent read the whole thread so no idea what everyone else is talking about. Would come back to read later but I need to say that Hamid Mir most probably falls under the catagory of those stupid Pakistanis & al qaeda / taliban supporters who do not believe in nationalism. So, in their own hearts, they justify their acts which in many cases are against Pakistan's existance.

It is obvious these people are clear examples of exploitation against at the hands of india. All such Pakistanis need to wake up. Whoever says there is no concapt of nationalism in Islam is bullsh!tting because in Islam the real Jihad is to 'protect your land from the invaders. The brainwashed Pakistanis who have turned into Pakistan's traitors through indian exploitation need to wake up before it's too late.

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Transcript of Hamid Mir’s conversation

Hamid Mir: Many bombings are being carried out.
Unidentified man: Let’s see. There will be more of them. There are some in the pipeline. What do they (government) say about the operation in Orakzai? Will they stop it or not?
HM: No, they say it would not be stopped, rather they say they will also start an operation in North Waziristan and 40,000 troops will leave in a couple of days.
UM: In North Waziristan?
HM: Yes.
UM: Do you have any report on Khalid Khawaja etc.
HM: They say Khalid Khawaja Saab is in custody of one Azam Afridi in Darrakhel.
UM: Yes, yes Tariq Afridi (correcting HM).
HM: They are in Tariq Afridi’s custody.
UM: OK.
HM: Yes.
UM: So, are they men of the government or ISI?
HM: Who?
UM: These, Khalid Khawaja and Colonel Imam.
HM: Khalid Khawaja, according to my opinion, is not an ISI man, rather he is a CIA agent, an American CIA agent and he has links with the Taliban leadership.
UM: Yes, he met with Hakimullah and others when he came here last time.
HM: I personally know that Khalid Khawaja has links not only with CIA but he is also a front man of Mansoor Ijaz who belongs to a very big international network of Qadiyanis. Once he came to me along with Mansoor, who had a briefcase with him, and Khalid Saab told me that Mansoor is a key representative of the US government, so arrange his meeting with Syed Salahuddin, who is a mujahideen leader, and he along with him would resolve the Kashmir issue.
UM: All right.
HM: But I asked him what charm or magic lamp does he posses for the resolution of the Kashmir dispute. He said he had links with the Indian government and (Atal Bihari) Vajpayee Jee, which surprised me. I didn’t arrange the meeting, but I asked Mr Salahuddin who said Khalid Khawaja is sending messages that you should directly talk to India and the US on the issue and exclude Pakistan from it.
UM: All right, all right.
HM: After that, Mansoor Ijaz also asked me: Are you with us or not? I said, “I am not with you.” Then he conspired against me and got me sacked from the Daily Ausaf when I was its editor. So, I think Khalid Khawaja not only has links with the CIA but he is also an agent of the Qadiyanis, and I am very sad that he used to go to the Tribal Areas and meet leaders there.
UM: But now, I think, the Taliban have caught him and have demanded $10 million for the journalist.
HM: Do you know what part his (Khalid Khawaja’s) wife played in Lal Masjid?
UM: No, but it was something negative.
HM: It was that Maulana Abdul Rashid Ghazi Saab – may Allah bless him with a place in heavens. What he told me in his last days was, do you know that he did not completely agree with Maulana Aziz.
UM: Yes, yes.
HM: Mr Abdul Rashid Ghazi wanted to save the students inside the mosque and for that he showed flexibility and said, “I am ready to surrender on the condition that those who are with me will not be arrested and will be released.” But Khalid Khawaja’s wife was pressurised so much by Ume Hassaan that Maulana Abdul Aziz, without asking his brother, came out in a burqa, and Khalid Khawaja was involved in it (call disconnected).
UM: Assalam-o-Alaikum!
HM: Yes,
UM: The call got disconnected.
HM: Ok.
UM: So, what were you saying about his wife?
HM: Yes, I was telling you that his wife pressurised him so much that Ghazi Saab said, “She says we have to fight, just fight for martyrdom.” After that Mr Khalid Khawaja came out of the mosque and his wife also fled, Khalid Khawaja’s wife.
UM: Yes, we heard that she had fled after that.
HM: Yes, she ran away and then Maulana Abdul Aziz also came out in the burqa.
UM: I think, he insisted for that.
HM: Yes, he had done all this. After that Maulana Abdul Aziz was arrested and Mr Abdul Rashid Ghazi telephoned me and said, “Now, I don’t have any option. Now, my family and ulema have been defamed as my brother was arrested in a burqa and presented on Pakistan Television. This is a large stain which can only be removed with my blood.” So, he lived up to his words and sacrificed. So, Khalid Khawaja and his wife, anyone may know or not, they will have to answer before Allah Almighty.
UM: He, recently, came here and met my companions. He was saying, “You can work in Pakistan as we say, if you want to. I can arrange your ‘setting’ with an admiral in Mianwali. So, you should not burn US containers in Pakistan, you can rob them and sell them to a person recommended by us.” He was saying, “We would provide you everything for carrying out activities in Pakistan.”
HM: Do whatever you want to with the containers, burn them or rob them, I have nothing to do with it. But ask him what relationship he has with Mansoor Ijaz and William Casey? William Casey was the chief of CIA.
UM: Right, right.
HM: He (Khawaja) himself has confessed in front me that he had links with William Casey. Ok! Leave William, ask him about the Qadiyanis, because I personally believe that Qadiyanis are worse than infidels, what kind of links does he have with Qadiyanis? What relationship does he have with Mansoor Ijaz? Why does he use his money? Why does he go everywhere with him when he comes to Pakistan? Why does he bring him to the mujahideen?
UM: Yes, he has a son in al Qaeda.
HM: Yes, his son would also be a spy like him.
UM: Yes, I talked to the shaikhs about him. They said they were keeping him on the sidelines.
HM: His biggest betrayal to me was that there was a mujahid, Abdul Rehman Al Canady.
UM: Yes, there was one Canady.
HM: He was martyred in North Waziristan. He came to me with Canady’s wife and a daughter, saying Canady’s son, Karim, is at Rawalpindi’s CMH and is injured and the army had arrested him. He asked me to arrange a meeting between the injured and his mother. I said this is very difficult for me and I can’t do this because already they are all against me. But, he said all that you need to do is to arrange a meeting between a mother and her son. So, I arranged it with a lot of difficulties and sent the woman to Rawalpindi CMH, but when she reached there she took a camera out of her burqa and asked her son to record a message that he is innocent, has no links with anyone and has been kept here illegally. She was arrested there because a nurse saw her and seized the camera from her. But I was held responsible for all of it as they told me that I had sent this woman. It was revealed after her arrest that the woman had a Canadian passport and had visited Canada two months ago. After that I faced a lot of difficulties. The Canadian government released the woman and her daughter and then she went back to Canada. In Toronto, she held a press conference and admitted that she worked for the CIA. Now Khalid Khawaja has a long beard and his wife wears a full veil so people like us, who are involved in worldly affairs and have committed sins, believe that if we will help them, we might be forgotten for our sins. When these kinds of people betray us, we lose confidence on the religion itself.
UM: Absolutely, neither we are wrong nor is the army, but people like him have created the difficulties.
HM: However, if he is somewhere, ask him at least that you used the name of Abdul Rehman Canady, you worked with Mansoor Ijaz, you have worked William Casey. And there is one Javaid Ibrahim Piracha, who has a very big seminary in Kohat.
UM: Yes, yes.
HM: You all know the services of Piracha Saab. So, he fraudulently invited Piracha Saab in Islamabad and told him he wanted to arrange his meeting with a prominent personality. He took him to the US deputy foreign minister at Serena Hotel and said, “He is Mr Piracha and he can arrange your talks with the al Qaeda and Taliban.” Piracha Saab is a well-educated person. I observed that he was betrayed and came out of the room and escaped from there. Then he called me and said, “You were right about him (Khalid Khawaja).”
UM: Right, right. He went to him last time.
HM: Yes, Piracha Saab told me about that. He said, “He came to me and Col Imam was also here and told Col Imam that don’t go anywhere with this guy.” He (Piracha) said, “What can I do if he comes here and I can’t force him out of my house, but you don’t go anywhere with him.” Mr Piracha said Col Imam didn’t want to go with Khalid Khawaja, but he forced him to go with him.
UM: Right, maybe to use as human shield. But Shah Abdul Aziz, that MNA of Kirk, is supporting him a lot. He was meeting everyone here and asking for his release.
HM: He would have fooled Shah Abdul Aziz.
UM: Yes, he was asking people to release him and said you may keep the journalist, whose ransom will be paid to you by him.
HM: Ok! His release depends on them who have kept him, but convey them these three questions that what is your link with Mansoor Ijaz, whose father fled with the atomic secrets of Pakistan. Mansoor Ijaz’s father was an atomic scientist and he fled to the US with the atomic secrets of Pakistan. Once he (Ijaz) offered Benazir Bhutto a quid pro quo deal in 1995 that all the debts of the country will be forgiven, if she recognised Israel. That means he was also an agent of Israel.
UM: Yes, he used to ask my companions to work in Pakistan “as we say”. Actually, the killings of brigadiers in Rawalpindi might have been arranged by him, I think.
HM: It might be possible, but I have been watching this guy for the last 13 or 14 years and he is a suspected man.
UM: OK. Inshallah, I will meet Hakimullah in two or three days and talk to him about all this.
HM: All right
UM: Thank you so much.
HM: Assalam-o-Alaikum!
UM: Assalam-o-Alaikum!