this is fascinating stuff, non of this makes hamid mir a cia agent.
there was a speech by hamid mir, where he refuted all these allegations. perhaps hamid mir is not as sold out to the isi cause as zaid hamid wants him to be. thats zaid hamids problem
zaid hamid is manipulating what hamid mir was trying to say in his report, basically hamid mir was against military operations. zaid hamid as we all know is pro military operations within pakistan against what he calls raw agents (doing pakistans bit in WOT). who is the cia agent?
I don’t know Hamid Mir being a traitor but he was definitely talking crap in this video, he was trying to say that Pakistani Army goes to villages and kill innocent civilians because they are scared of talibans. No doubt Pak Army has corrupt officers (corruption is part of our culture anyway) but this idiot Mir is degrading our army here.
Aik se barh k aik h*****i hain yahan, apnay mulk ka Allah hi hafiz hai.
Re: Bloody CIA agent Hamid Mir & Khalid Khawaja exposed (WITH TAPED AUDIO CALL)
yes, only anti-Islam fasadis deserve praise in the eyes of people like you and Hamid Mir.
I am not surprised by hatred of Pakistan and its army sprouted by people who did their best to stop the creation of Pakistan. These people have been enemy of Pakistan since day one, and this continues today.
See the latest incident of fasadis that Pakistan Army is fighting:
PARACHINAR: Suspected militants dressed as policemen kidnapped about 60 people in troubled northwestern Pakistan near the Afghan border on Saturday, government and police officials said.
Heavily armed militants first seized a vehicle belonging to the government power utility in the Kurram region and kidnapped four people travelling inside. The vehicle was set on fire.
Shortly afterwards, several vehicles were seized from a convoy of civilians travelling to Parachinar, the main city in Kurram.
Officials initially said 30 people were kidnapped but later said 57 people had been taken from the convoy.
“The militants were posing as policemen and wearing police uniforms,” said Mir Chaman, a senior police official in the nearby town of Thal.
Government officials in Kurram confirmed the incident and said efforts were under way to recover the kidnapped people.
Re: Bloody CIA agent Hamid Mir & Khalid Khawaja exposed (WITH TAPED AUDIO CALL)
so whats an iranian like you telling me anything. look fella, its obvious you want to fight in waziristan because you think some people (read all people) there are non muslims
take your holy war to iran with you, dont let the door hit you on your way out!
Re: Bloody CIA agent Hamid Mir & Khalid Khawaja exposed (WITH TAPED AUDIO CALL)
shardmanny:
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so whats an iranian like you
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Cheap shot. I am from Karachi.
shardmanny:
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its obvious you want to fight in waziristan because you think some people there are non muslims
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It is against Islam to fight people just for their being non-Muslims. But by saying this you are showing your own twisted violent fasadi ideology. And this ideology is obvious in the anti-Islam anti-Islam barbaric ideology of Taliban.
This ideology has brought Pakistan to brink. But thankfully, most our of our people who used to support Tailban have now come to realize its true face. Taliban's reign in Pakistan has been so bloody and violent that even the warlord leader Mullah Umar tries to distance himself from Mehsud-led terror in the form of Taliban in our country.
Pakistan Army is trying to free the country of these demons, and yet you had the audacity to criticize our military.
Re: Bloody CIA agent Hamid Mir & Khalid Khawaja exposed (WITH TAPED AUDIO CALL)
leave em alone or they'll smack your head in. what part of that equation dont you understand?
because we, pakistan, are the initiators of this leg of WOT aswell as holding all power within the conflict, the onnus is on us to end it first
Re: Bloody CIA agent Hamid Mir & Khalid Khawaja exposed (WITH TAPED AUDIO CALL)
shardmanny:
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leave em alone or they'll smack your head in.
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I read it differently. IF you leave them alone they will smack your head in.
Every inch of Pakistani land should have Pakistani laws applied to it, and controlled by Pakistani army. No one in Pakistan should be allowed to form militant groups, and planning and waging wars against Pakistan and others.
QUETTA: A number of schools, including at least two girls’ schools, have closed down in Quetta after threatening letters were received by their managements.
Security was also beefed up in parts of the provincial capital and in Mastung.
Some of the letters threatened that if purdah was not observed in schools, then teachers and administrative heads will have to bear the consequences.
Similar letters threatening against wearing ‘western’ clothes were also sent to schools in Mastung.
The letters warned the school managements with the presence of informants among the students and the staffers and threatened severe consequences in case of non-compliance.
The letters, sent by Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan’s Balochistan chapter, created a sense of fear and panic among the students and teachers.
As much as i dislike, i have to agree with u. The army has been sitting on their arse sipping scotch and runnig flour mills, cement factory etc., since their bravery in 1971. They used and misguided the naive tribal youth in name of islam to do the army's dirty work (fighting), while most of their family were living in posh houses (except for foot soldiers) and studying/travelling abroad on $$ doled out by US.
Now first time they have picked up guns to fight, ironically, against their own creation. People dont admit this but pak army campaign has cost more collateral lives than the US drones. Swat and Bajaur (also FATA) has hundered of thousands of people displaced from their home. Swat once a tourist paradise is empty. People still live in fear an no compensation from the establishment, probably because they pocketed most of the aid.
Another disaster in waiting is artificial lake created in hunza due to landslide, it has already closed the trade link to china by submerging 11km of the highway. The army/establishment knows this and not much has been done. Tens of thousands of people in hunza are stranded without food and electricity. On top of that their livelyhood, farming is underwater.
I guess the army/establishment is waiting for disaster to occur, then plead US and other contouties for $$ with hat in their hand. Once they get aid, their pocket will be loaded again with $$ and awam left as it is (remember AJK quake rebuilding?).
It is really sad.
Re: Bloody CIA agent Hamid Mir & Khalid Khawaja exposed (WITH TAPED AUDIO CALL)
Sharmanny, you were saying that if we leave them alone then they will stop attacking Pakistanis.
Is it really true?
See my post above. They are threatening teachers and students with dire consequences if they don't agree to what they say. What does these threats have to do with operation against them?
Like I said earlier, we need to purge Pakistan of violence and fanaticism which uses Islam's name but is actually the opposite of Islamic teachings.
I read it differently.
*IF you leave them alone they will smack your head in.
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thats not why your fighting them, your fighting them because america told you to. and your fighting them encourages the americans to stay fighting next door that bit longer
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Every inch of Pakistani land should have Pakistani laws applied to it, and controlled by Pakistani army. No one in Pakistan should be allowed to form militant groups, and planning and waging wars against Pakistan and others.
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thats not the terms and conditions FATA somewhat joined pakistan on. they set their own laws
As much as i dislike, i have to agree with u. The army has been sitting on their arse sipping scotch and runnig flour mills, cement factory etc., since their bravery in 1971. They used and misguided the naive tribal youth in name of islam to do the army's dirty work (fighting), while most of their family were living in posh houses (except for foot soldiers) and studying/travelling abroad on $$ doled out by US.
Now first time they have picked up guns to fight, ironically, against their own creation. People dont admit this but pak army campaign has cost more collateral lives than the US drones. Swat and Bajaur (also FATA) has hundered of thousands of people displaced from their home. Swat once a tourist paradise is empty. People still live in fear an no compensation from the establishment, probably because they pocketed most of the aid.
Another disaster in waiting is artificial lake created in hunza due to landslide, it has already closed the trade link to china by submerging 11km of the highway. The army/establishment knows this and not much has been done. Tens of thousands of people in hunza are stranded without food and electricity. On top of that their livelyhood, farming is underwater.
I guess the army/establishment is waiting for disaster to occur, then plead US and other contouties for $$ with hat in their hand. Once they get aid, their pocket will be loaded again with $$ and awam left as it is (remember AJK quake rebuilding?).
It is really sad.
As much as Army has its shortcomings, how can you overlook the terrorism and militancy by those lunatics?
Even if you dislike Army, who will go and fight those lunatics if not Pakistan Army?
thats not why your fighting them, your fighting them because america told you to.
This is Pakistan's own fight. This is a fight to keep Pakistan away from darkness and evil.
These fasadis are as much an enemy of Pakistan and Pakistani people as they are the enemies of America and other non-Muslims.
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thats not the terms and conditions FATA somewhat joined pakistan on. they set their own laws
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Is Sawat in FATA too? Is Balochistan in FATA too?
Besides, if FATA claims to be a part of Pakistan then it better be a part of Pakistan. There is no other way around.
When everything fails, out comes another amreeki-sehooni conspiracy against “pious” Muslims of Mehsudis who just want to distribute candies among students.
yeah, right.
شرم تم کو مگر نہیں آتی
This conspiracy theory might have worked if schools started getting destroyed after American involvement in this war. But reality is that many schools were destroyed even before Americans. Especially in Afghanistan.
it was reported on 16 June 1998 that the Taliban closed more than 100 private schools. [5f] The Taliban stated that schools would not be allowed to teach girls over the age of eight, and that the schools that were closed had violated this rule. [2] According to Amnesty International, more than a dozen male teachers were reportedly arrested in 1998 for teaching children at home schools. [7j]
5.3.55 In the future, the Taliban stated that it would license girls’ schools, and that teaching in such schools would be limited to the Koran.
Re: Bloody CIA agent Hamid Mir & Khalid Khawaja exposed (WITH TAPED AUDIO CALL)
the point of posting this audio/text was not to indulge you guys in gayism .. the purpose was
Taliban was created by us with the sperm donated by half of the world ....
they are out of control and all the other countries are using fractions within them as proxies ..
all this crap is happening on soil of Pakistan
all of this bullshyt has nothing to do with Islam & Jihad
this is just an insight into the current great game which is being play by US/Europe/Russia/China/India/Saudi/Iran/Pakistan !
Re: Bloody CIA agent Hamid Mir & Khalid Khawaja exposed (WITH TAPED AUDIO CALL)
if this audio is genuine (which i think is) then why it is not taken up by the national media.
is hamid mir to big to take panga with or there is no big deal in the tape.
As much as Army has its shortcomings, how can you overlook the terrorism and militancy by those lunatics?
Even if you dislike Army, who will go and fight those lunatics if not Pakistan Army?
It is the Army that made these monsters.
Despite killing so many pakistanis, the Army only cared when they attacked when they attacked GHQ