Blix Report: No Weapons of Mass Destruction Seen - rubbishes Powell report

France and Germany seem to be right after all…

Blix: No Weapons of Mass Destruction Seen

Chief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix told the Security Council on Friday his teams have not uncovered any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq but that Saddam Hussein has not accounted for many banned weapons that his government is suspected of having. Blix’s counterpart, nuclear chief Mohamed ElBaradei, told the council that inspectors found no evidence Iraq had resumed its nuclear weapons program and said inspectors could do their job without Iraq’s full cooperation. Secretary of State Colin Powell attending the meeting, ran into stiff resistance as he pressed reluctant allies to say how long they want U.N. weapons inspections in Iraq or to acknowledge that they simply will not support force to oust Saddam. French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin said U.N. inspections, which resumed in November after a four-year break, “are producing results” and should continue. His address was greeted with applause, rare for Security Council speeches.

China, which like France holds veto power on the council, said inspections were working and should continue. “Only when we go along the line of political settlement can we truly live up to the trust and hope the international community places in the Security Council,” Chinese Foreign Minister Tang Jiaxuan said. With Powell listening from his seat across a round table, Blix cast doubt on evidence Powell provided to the council last week claiming that Iraq had cleaned-up suspect sites before inspectors arrived. The inspectors spoke at a council meeting that could determine whether the United States gets U.N. backing for military action against Iraq for failing to disarm. Powell and other foreign ministers and ambassadors of the 15 council nations were to speak publicly at the meeting before heading into a private session. The United States and Britain are gearing up for war and will almost certainly spotlight an Iraqi missile program which exceeds U.N. limits and questions about nerve agents and anthrax. They were to argue at the meeting that Iraq has no intention of disarming peacefully.

On the other side, France, Russia, China and Germany had been expected to emphasize new signs of Iraqi cooperation, including its decision to allow U-2 reconnaissance flights and private interviews with scientists, and to establish commissions to search for weapons and documents. Blix said it was significant that “many proscribed weapons and items are not accounted for.” As an example, he cited a document that suggested some 1,000 tons of chemical agent were unaccounted for. Although he said he could not conclude the chemicals still exited, there was no proof that they had been destroyed." ***Blix also questioned evidence that Powell provided to the council in his presentation Feb. 5. Pointing to one case Powell highlighted using satellite photos of a munitions depot, Blix said: “The reported movement of munitions at the site could just as easily have been a routine activity” as one designed to hide banned materials before inspections. “In no case have we seen convincing evidence that the Iraqi side knew in advance that the inspectors were coming,” Blix said. ***

Blix also reported findings by a panel of experts that one of Iraq’s new missile systems exceeds the range limit set by Security Council resolutions. “The experts concluded that, based on the data provided by Iraq, the two declared variants of the Al Samoud 2 missile were capable of exceeding 150 kilometers (93 miles) in range. This missile system is therefore proscribed for Iraq,” Blix said. Blix said additional information was needed on a second missile, the Al Fatah before deciding if it was in violation. Blix said private interviews with three Iraqi scientists “proved informative,” but since the interviews conducted in Baghdad on Feb. 8-9 no more had been done in private — “on our terms.” “I hope this will change,” he said. “We feel that interviews conducted without any third party present and without tape recording would provide the greatest credibility.” Under intense pressure, Iraq agreed earlier this month to prod scientists to agree to private interviews. Previously, all scientists insisted on being accompanied by an Iraqi official or having their interview tape recorded. Blix said there were 250 U.N. personnel now in Iraq, including about 115 inspectors. He said there had been more than 400 inspections at 300 sites since the process began in November. In his report, ElBaradei said, as he did in the previous report, that inspectors found no evidence Iraq had restarted its nuclear weapons program. In addition, he said, inspectors did not need Iraqi cooperation. “The IAEA’s experience in nuclear verification shows that it is possible, particularly with an intrusive verification system, to assess the presence or absence of a nuclear weapons program in a state even without the full co-operation of the inspected state,” ElBaradei said. ElBaradei said the matter of high-strength aluminum tubes which Iraq tried to import had not been closed. He has said previously that the IAEA believes Iraq intended to use the tubing for conventional rockets. On Friday he said Iraq provided new documentation on the tubes, a reported attempt to import uranium, the procurement of magnets and magnet production capabilities and the use of the explosive HMX. “The IAEA has verified that Iraq had indeed been manufacturing such rockets. However, we are still exploring whether the tubes were intended rather for the manufacture of centrifuges for uranium enrichment,” he said.

The United States and Britain were waiting to hear from the inspectors before deciding when to present a draft resolution that would either authorize military action or find Iraq in “material breach” of its obligations — a term that Washington and London believe would be enough to justify an attack, according to diplomats who spoke on condition of anonymity. British diplomats had said a draft could be introduced as early as Saturday. Powell and British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw were scheduled to meet Friday afternoon with the three other veto-holding permanent council members — France, Russia and China — and then with the 10 elected members. “There are a number of options,” said Britain’s U.N. Ambassador Jeremy Greenstock. “I think there will be a last-minute decision.” France could also decide to submit its proposal to triple the number of inspectors, diplomats said. After the 1991 Gulf War inspectors oversaw the destruction of the bulk of Iraq’s chemical and biological weapons and dismantled the country’s program to develop nuclear weapons.

Full text: Blix address](BBC NEWS | Middle East | Full text: Blix address)

Best part were his veiled bashes of the US & UK for not sharing intelligence. If they want it to work they will make it work. Otherwise it seems to be obstruction.

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Yes. The French Foreign Minister was given unprecdented applause when he addressed the UN Security Council, which showed how their argument was winning ground, and Powell looked pretty lonely and deseperate when he made his plea. It is reported that only 3 of the UN Security Council support the US position, with 11 against...

This Is A Violation!

Blix said perhaps the most important problem facing the council is determining what happened to stores of anthrax, deadly VX nerve agent, and long-range missiles that Iraq previously was known to have. Iraq has not provided adequate material to prove what happened to them, he said.

It is Baghdad's responsibility, "not the task of inspectors," to find such evidence, he said.

Blix said one document suggests that "some 1,000 tons of chemical agent were unaccounted for, but Baghdad has begun to provide more information that could help lead to answers, he added.
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Why have they only just begun to provide evidence? The UN is showing it's true worth.

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The UN is showing it's true worth.

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Yes, especially in exposing American lies:-

Blix also questioned evidence that Powell provided to the council in his presentation Feb. 5. Pointing to one case Powell highlighted using satellite photos of a munitions depot, Blix said: "The reported movement of munitions at the site could just as easily have been a routine activity" as one designed to hide banned materials before inspections. "In no case have we seen convincing evidence that the Iraqi side knew in advance that the inspectors were coming," Blix said.

Did anyone see Powell's face when Blix was saying this? :)

Russian Foreign Ministers remarks were also greeted with applause as he also agreed with the French. China, France and Russia, which all hold veto-power on the council, said inspections were working.
I expect King George Bush II to decalre UN irrelevant and puppy Blair to nod and drool :D
Blix : "In no case have we seen convincing evidence that the Iraqi side knew in advance that the inspectors were coming."

you choose to ignore the violation by Iraq I see.

No, we decide it to be unworthy of war.

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Yes. The French Foreign Minister was given unprecdented applause when he addressed the UN Security Council, which showed how their argument was winning ground, and Powell looked pretty lonely and deseperate when he made his plea. It is reported that only 3 of the UN Security Council support the US position, with 11 against...
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Thats Excellent news! With only 3 supporters the Bush Administration should pack its bags and order its troops back to the barracks. Bush & co are so desperate to attack Iraq, that they are beginning to embarrass millions of Americans who have realised that its ONLY ABOUT OIL and regional domination.

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Be honest, if chemical weapons were found by the inspectors you would still be against it wouldn't you?

Blix : "In no case have we seen convincing evidence that the Iraqi side knew in advance that the inspectors were coming."

Diplomatic speak for the Americans were telling bare faced lies.

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**Blix : "In no case have we seen convincing evidence that the Iraqi side knew in advance that the inspectors were coming."
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Blix has admitted before that he has been fooled by the Iraqis. I don't see why it couldn't happen again Malik.

Great thread, as usual, Malik. Extremely informative.
For months, we have been treated to claims that Iraq is in “material breach” of its obligations. The onus is upon those who make these allegations, to prove their accuracy; clearly, Blix himself does not believe that militarily invading Iraq represents the best solution. So much for Powell’s “smoking gun” of a speech to the Security Council. Regardless of the wishes of the majority of the world, regardless of Blix’s own statements, the US admin. appears to be driven towards committing unprovoked acts of aggression against Iraq; i have no doubt it will fabricate another casus belli in the coming weeks.

On a day of high drama, a quiet Swede may just have turned back the tide of war](http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/story.jsp?story=378431)
David Usborne, The Independent, 15 February 2003

Hans Blix, the chief weapons inspector, unexpectedly threw sand in the cogs of war yesterday by suggesting that Iraq could yet satisfy United Nations demands that it rid itself of weapons of mass destruction if it acts quickly to resolve the riddle of its missing chemical and biological agents.

In an electrifying meeting, Mr Blix singularly failed to state that Iraq was in “material breach” of resolution 1441, dealing a crippling blow to the British and American hopes for a second resolution that would endorse a war on Iraq.

…] The French Foreign Minister, Domique de Villepin, contended that Mr Blix’s report showed that progress was being made.“War is always the sanction of failure,” Mr de Villepin asserted. “We must give the inspectors every chance of succeeding.”

His statement triggered applause in the gallery of the Security Council, an extremely rare – and, under UN protocol, strictly discouraged – event.

Here’s a nice informative article which gives an accurate picture of what happened yesterday. Now it seems that Austria is openly opposing US policies, adding to the long list of countries now openly against their war monerging.

Not even the UN is fooled by American lies anymore…

http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=22797

Blix puts Washington’s back against the wall

By Barbara Ferguson, Arab News Correspondent

Hans Blix, the UN’s chief inspector, presented a crucial report to the UN Security Council yesterday, saying his teams have not found any weapons of mass destruction. Blix’s counterpart, nuclear chief Mohamed El-Baradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, similarly told the Security Council that inspectors had found no evidence Iraq had resumed its nuclear weapons program. Blix expressed concern that Iraq has still not accounted for many banned arms, but said disarmament can be achieved. The United States and Britain made clear in their rebuttal speeches that they are still gearing up for war and will almost certainly investigate an Iraqi missile program that exceeds UN limits and questions about nerve agents and anthrax. They argued during the meeting that Iraq has no intention of disarming peacefully. To a warm applause, French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin warned against an early use of military action to force Iraq to disarm. “The use of force against Iraq is not justified today; there is an alternative to war, and that is to disarm Iraq through inspections,” he said.

“Let us give the UN weapons inspectors time,” Villepin said, adding that “a premature recourse to the military option would have heavy consequences.” Rebuffing allegations made to the council by US Secretary of State Colin Powell in public on Feb. 5, Villepin said French intelligence had seen nothing to prove the existence of ties between Iraq and the terrorist network Al-Qaeda. In a rare demonstration of support, most of the diplomats packed into the non-members’ gallery burst into applause and clapped for about 30 seconds as Villepin finished speaking. The French minister called for a new meeting of the UN Security Council at the ministerial level on March 14 to assess the situation in Iraq.

Russia, China and Germany emphasized new signs of Iraqi cooperation, including its decision to allow U-2 reconnaissance flights and private interviews with scientists, and to establish commissions to search for weapons and documents. Regarding weapons of mass destruction, Blix said the inspection team “has not found any such weapons, only a small number of empty chemical munitions, which should have been declared and destroyed,” he said. He said a finding “of great significance” was that many proscribed weapons ‘"are not accounted for.” But one must not jump to the conclusion that they exist, he added. "However, that possibility is also not excluded. If they exist, they should be presented for destruction. If they do not exist, credible evidence to that effect should be presented.’"

Blix also questioned evidence that Powell provided to the council in his presentation last week. Pointing to one example Powell highlighted using satellite photos of a munitions depot, Blix said: “The reported movement of munitions at the site could just as easily have been a routine activity” as one designed to hide banned materials before inspections.

Blix also reported findings by a panel of experts that one of Iraq’s new missile systems exceeds the range limit set by Security Council resolutions. “Both Blix and El-Baradei told Powell and Bush to either show some evidence, or to shut up. That’s how I interpret it,” Imad Khadduri told Arab News, before rushing off for an interview with “60 Minutes.” Khadduri worked with the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission from 1968 until 1998. He left Iraq in1998 with his family, and now lives in Canada.

The report was not what the US Administration wanted to hear. As expected, Secretary Powell pressed reluctant allies to threaten Iraq with force to disarm and not be taken in by “tricks that are being played on us.” “The threat of force must remain,” Powell said. “We cannot wait for one of these terrible weapons to turn up in our cities,” he said. “More inspections — I am sorry — are not the answer,” Powell said. But the secretary ran into stiff resistance.

France called for extended inspections and another report on March 14, and several other nations on the council supported that proposal. Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov said the UN should continue to back arms inspections in Iraq and give inspectors “all necessary assistance.” China’s Foreign Minister Tang Jiaxuan said weapons inspections in Iraq should continue, but called on President Saddam Hussein’s government to provide more cooperation.

Meanwhile, Iraqi President Saddam Hussein complied with a key arms inspectors’ demand yesterday by decreeing a ban on importing or making weapons of mass destruction. Hours before the top UN arms inspectors reported to the UN Security Council, Saddam also reiterated that Iraq was free of any such weapons. The decree is an at least symbolic gesture by the Iraqi president to meet one of the demands that chief weapons inspectors Blix and El-Baradei made when they visited Baghdad in mid-January. Saddam ordered his ministers to take all necessary measures to implement the decree. But the White House said it did not see “any credibility” in Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein’s decree banning weapons of mass destruction. “It is impossible to place any credibility in the laws, the so-called laws” of Saddam’s “totalitarian regime,” spokesman Ari Fleischer told reporters.

In the Vatican City, Pope John Paul bluntly told Baghdad to respect UN resolutions in talks with Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tareq Aziz yesterday, during which the diplomat pledged his country would cooperate with UN weapons inspectors. In Washington, despite UN rebuttals, Pentagon officials and defense analysts said that under new US war plans, thousands of helicopter-borne troops and paratroopers would be flown deep into Iraq to seize oil fields, dams and banned weapons, and advance as far as Baghdad on the first day of the fighting. President George Bush met his top field commander, Gen. Tommy Franks, yesterday to review plans quite unlike those used in the last Gulf war.

In Vienna, deflecting criticism from the Pentagon, Austria defended its decision to block US troops from crossing the alpine nation, saying they won’t be free to transit the neutral country without a new UN resolution authorizing war.

That’s exactly the problem.. BushCo has resorted to lies. They didn’t need to do that. Sure, it may have been slightly harder to build their case, but now they are losing potential allies. Even moderates or those who would be for war are uneasy about this only due to the methods the admin has used. There is no al Qaeda connection, at least not the one they’ve proposed, if any. Blix himself called into question their “damnatory” evidence. Etc, etc. I’m telling ya.. if only they would have done this right, and not what they thought would be the easy way, from the start we could be doing something now. I believe we could go into Iraq and do some good. But since they have started this last spring their actions have made that impossible.

An article similar to this: Elusive Qaeda connections

“Senator Says Report Gives No Sense Of Urgency”

Kennedy: No Reason To Go To War](http://www.thebostonchannel.com/politics/1979227/detail.html) The Boston Channel, Feb 14, 2003

BOSTON – Sen. Edward Kennedy still believes there’s no reason to race down the road to war with Iraq. NewsCenter 5’s Janet Wu reported that Kennedy made his feelings known Friday, as did others in the Massachusetts delegation.

Kennedy said that Friday’s report from chief weapons inspector Hans Blix offered no sense of urgency to go to war. “The only sense of urgency to go to war is 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., and they want to advance the trigger for war,” Kennedy said. “This administration has a plan to get into Iraq, but the president owes the American people the details of how we are going to get out of Iraq,”

“I don’t think this is about weapons,” Rep. Barney Frank said. “I assume he has some (weapons). The question is does he have enough to be a threat to the greatest military power in the world? The answer is no.” Rep. Stephen Lynch is among those who feel invasion of Iraq can be justified – but only if the international community supports us; otherwise short-time gain will have long-term consequences. …

And still nothing will satisfy the right-wingers.

Blix welcomes Iraqi arms move, BBC, 25 February 2003

The chief United Nations weapons inspector, Hans Blix, says new disclosures by Iraq about its weapons of mass destruction are “positive”.

He said Iraq had told inspectors about the discovery of handwritten documents concerning the disposal of weapons of mass destruction in 1991.

According to Mr Blix, Iraqi officials said they had found an R-400 bomb containing liquid at a site where Baghdad was known to have disposed of biological weapons in the past. Mr Blix was speaking soon after UK Prime Minister Tony Blair warned that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein had “one further final chance” to disarm peacefully. In a key speech to the UK Parliament, Mr Blair demanded Iraq’s “100% compliance” with UN Resolution 1441. “Anything less than that will not do,” he said.

As America continued its drive for international support for its stance on Iraq, US President George W Bush said only Iraq’s “full disarmament” would be enough to avoid a war. Mr Bush was speaking after meeting the prime minister of Bulgaria - one of the few Security Council members known to back the US position. Mr Bush said that a second UN resolution clearing the way for the use of force to disarm Iraq would be helpful, but was not necessary.

Baghdad, meanwhile, dismissed reports that a fire at an oil well in northern Iraq on Tuesday was caused by sabotage. Iraq’s Ministry of Information said the blaze in the city of Kirkuk was “an ordinary thing” which would be extinguished soon.

The new Iraqi arms disclosures came in letters sent to Mr Blix’s UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (Unmovic) in the past three days.

NEXT STEPS IN IRAQ CRISIS
1 Mar: Blix written report to Security Council
1 Mar: Missile destruction must start
Around 7 Mar: Inspectors oral report to Security Council
10 Mar: US-UK will force UN vote on resolution

Mr Blix said the documents contained “some elements which are positive which need to be explored further”.

One of the outstanding questions which Iraq has not answered is providing information about the arming of R-400 bombs with aflatoxin, a biological agent. The BBC’s Greg Barrow at the United Nations says it would be overplaying this to say that it is a diplomatic breakthrough.

The view from London and Washington is likely to be that this is more evidence of Iraq’s strategy to only release information when it is under pressure.

But, he says, those Security Council members that want to see UN inspections continue will argue that this is more evidence of how the inspection process can actually work.

I say let's give them another 12-20 years. Perhaps in that time they can find another dozen or so required documents and another illegal bomb or two. Saddam must have constantly been in trouble in school for turning his term papers in a semester or 4 too late.

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Hmm. Iraq admitted in 1995 it had produced 155 R-400 bombs that were filled with biological agents including anthrax spores. Eight years later, it has accounted for one. At the current pace of accounting, 12-20 years sounds a bit optimistic Seminole.