These are the terrorists who would take over Iraq if the U.S. left like some here want them too.
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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) – An apparent car bombing ripped through the U.N. headquarters at the Canal Hotel in Baghdad on Tuesday, injuring an unknown number of people, U.N. officials told CNN.
Among the casualties was Sergio Vieira de Mello, the U.N. secretary-general’s special representative to Iraq, U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard said. “He has been injured, but we’re not certain how badly. He appears to be conscious, they are giving him water.”
Re: Blast rips through U.N. headquarters in Baghdad
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*Originally posted by underthedome: *
These are the terrorists who would take over Iraq if the U.S. left like some here want them too.
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How presumptuous of you, to say the above? How do you know if they will continue to do this or they are just trying to resist US occupation. Oh, I forgot, US knows better, US knows what is best for the Iraqis, they should be subjected to our rules, our way of life no matter what the consequences.
Come down from cloud nine and imagine, if some one had occupied US and people were trying to resist or fight the occupiers. On top of that occupying force was intent on introducing its own doctrines and puppet governemnt to control the massess. Does it remind you of something ?
I do believe that he baath party actually kept the religious extremists at bay..if it is the religious extremist types who are causing the havoc now. if they are baath party supporters than well they are continuing their fight...
Right now the target for both would be foriegn troops, I suppose when the troops leave they will go after each other.
sadly, an average iraqi probably does not want either of the three options, i.e. foriegn rule, extremists rule, or rule by old baathists in a new garb. a real choice is needed.
I think it needs to be made clear for the Americans who post here and regularly enjoy deluding themselves. Iraqi's and indeed all Muslims hated Saddam - and he did not represent Islam, nor did he profess to be a Muslim other than when it suited his political objective to do so.
However, the resistance being displayed at the moment is not from so called Saddam loyalists. Americans love to try and associate all opposition to them, their forces and their polices to some kind of terrorist group or tyrannical regime.
This is simply not the case. All Muslims despise the interference of western policy within our lands and like any people - we loathe the colonisation of Islamic lands at the hands of the kafir imperialists.
A great banner in Iraq was displayed shortly after Saddam's removal, it read "No Bush, No Saddam - Yes, Yes to Islam." This is the reality. No Muslim likes or liked Saddam - nor do we like America and we certainly do not buy this rubbish about 'liberating' the Iraqis.
The resisitance now, is legitimate resistance to occupying forces. The resistance is from the whole of Iraq including the kurdish, sunni and shia areas - why? Simply because the Muslims are one exclusive brotherhood, one ummah, to the exclusion of all other people.
By colonization you mean making Iraq self-sufficient, your against that? America has no plan on colonizing Iraq, history shows that that does not work. As the Taliban has shown your Islam and someone else’s Islam differs from one another. Taking out water that supplies the Iraqi people and attacking the UN seems to me that that would go against Islam’s teachings.*
God i can't believe this occurred. The pictures were so graphic.
Get out of the country, transfer authority to the UN. Enough is enough. American and British forces are not wanted in the country - departure is the only viable option. Had they planned to devote equal amounts of time fixing the electrical and water infrastructures, as they did towards securing the oil ministry, then perhaps less ordinary civilians would be resentful today in the 50+ summer heat. There's no representative government, no elections, just a bunch of fogeys flown in from London (where they've spent the past 20 years living in the lap of luxury and US-funded conferences), no electricity, hospitals have no medicines ----- enough is enough. US/UK should leave the country for the sake of the Iraqi people.
Perhaps the US should pack up and leave. Then all the blood shed will stop. Shias will stop fighting Sunnis. Arabs will stop fighting Kurds. Muslims will stop fighting non-Muslims. Education, peace, properity and righteousness will reign supreme as it does elsewhere in the Middle East.
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Perhaps the US should pack up and leave. Then all the blood shed will stop. Shias will stop fighting Sunnis. Arabs will stop fighting Kurds. Muslims will stop fighting non-Muslims. Education, peace, properity and righteousness will reign supreme as it does elsewhere in the Middle East.
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yeah lets give it a try. UN was still there when saddam was in power but UN was never targetted for any reason. but how its been targetted and reason is also there, USA and British troops. :~)
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Not certain how accurate this is. According to CBC, the UN special representative Sergio Vieira de Mello is confirmed as one of the dead.
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Sergio Vieira de Mello was the High Commissioner for Human Rights. Killing him does what all these attacks do and that is hurt the Iraqi people. He was a Brazilian who gave his life to help others.
Maybe they believe that is the same perception that American soldiers have - they don't care who they kill. Iraqi children and pregnant mothers have been fair game in the past.
i think the bottom line is - that US/UK interference in the affairs of this country spells disaster. Does no one read history - what has happened almost every single time a country has been occupied? Have the people accepted that condition happily?
Even people like Nelson Mandela, arguably one of the most popular leaders in the 20th century, believed that an armed struggle was justified, indeed imperative, when aiming to achieve democratic ends. Back then some of us called him a terrorist for that. Today, we roll out the red carpet for the Nobel Peace Prize winner. Maybe some Iraqis feel the same way - for as long as their country is under occupation and bearing the brunt of what they perceive as violence, then any armed means to attain their ends is justified.
The message to the UK/US has been sent loud and clear and those who remain deaf to it, do so at their own peril. There's been enough bloodshed of every party; they should leave and transfer authority to the UN.