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That is not true at all. Ofcourse people will care about it whether Hindus or Christians etc.
They may not go around chopping people's head of but they do care.
Okay if you say so....
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Its gone. They’ve removed it.
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Its gone. They've removed it.
Reason: Muslims dont like video about Islamic violence. Typical muslim reaction? Send death threats. F'in great!
Religion of peace? Yeah right.
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Reason: Muslims dont like video about Islamic violence. Typical muslim reaction? Send death threats. F'in great!
** Religion of peace? Yeah right**.
Don't you believe it is?
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hrkshan ------t the people at the host site where Fitna was carried have recieved death threats to employees and families. Fitna removed.
wilders scores a big 1
From the server's web.
Following threats to our staff of a very serious nature, and some ill informed reports from certain corners of the British media that could directly lead to the harm of some of our staff, Liveleak.com has been left with no other choice but to remove Fitna from our servers.
This is a sad day for freedom of speech on the net but we have to place the safety and well being of our staff above all else. We would like to thank the thousands of people, from all backgrounds and religions, who gave us their support. They realised LiveLeak.com is a vehicle for many opinions and not just for the support of one.
Perhaps there is still hope that this situation may produce a discussion that could benefit and educate all of us as to how we can accept one anothers culture.
We stood for what we believe in, the ability to be heard, but in the end the price was too high
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Don't you believe it is?
Prove to me it is, and I will.
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Peace All
The Qur'an is the Word of God ... It hurls truth at falsehood and breaks open its head ... not my words God's Words.
No one can malign the Qur'an and be thought of as credible. The Qur'an is untouchable at every level. For this reason Muslims need to calm down and combat hatred with the right tools ...
I think the point of the movie is that those commiting violence in the name of the Quran are the ones maligning it. So what are the right tools to combat this hatred?
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If I watch a movie in which hinduism or Christianity is being mocked or represent wrongly, I would feel offended.....but again that's the difference between muslims and non muslims.
Non muslims do not care about their own religion being mocked so why would they care about someone else's religion or religious figure.
That statement is as much of a generalization and stereotype as those who say Muslims are violent.
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Following threats to our staff of a very serious nature, and some ill informed reports from certain corners of the British media that could directly lead to the harm of some of our staff, Liveleak.com has been left with no other choice but to remove Fitna from our servers.
By making such a film Geert was creating unnecessary ruckus.
By these death threats on LiveLeak, the impression of violent religion has been once again re-inforced. I don't know when these muslims are going to learn that they are defeating their religion by such means!
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Denmark's security services have been stretched to breaking point thanks to some extremely stupid islamists. Now we'd all expect islamists to have gotten a little upset over the republication of the Mo Cartoons, but some of them should have paid a bit more attention in the ' How to Issue a Fatwah' lesson at their local Madrass
Kurt Westergaard, creator of the infamous Mo-Turban-Bomb cartoon, could possibly have foreseen a death threat or 2... But Kurt Westergaard the businessman, or Kurt Westergaard the grocer or any of the other 81 Kurt Westergaards in Denmark may have a genuine case for feeling a little hard done by. Yes, you've guessed it, Danish islamists blinded by hatred, blood-lust and a severe case of genetic dysfunction have actually sent death threats to almost every Kurt Westergaard in the Danish phonebook.
One would have thought that a religion whose male population are almost entirely called Mohammed would have put 2 and 2 together and realised there was a small possibility that more than one Kurt Westergaard might actually exist in Denmark... but apparantly not
Every cloud has a silver lining though "at least it takes some of the immense pressure off of me" said a smiling Kurt Westergaard (the cartoonist).
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One would have thought that a religion whose male population are almost entirely called Mohammed would have put 2 and 2 together (the cartoonist).
I think Ahmed in its various mutations is more
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Only enemies of Islam fanatics like you believe that. Even people like Ban and British and Danish PM disagree with you, including the so-called moderate Muslim states like Jordan and Bangladesh.
http://dawn.com/2008/03/29/top8.htm
UNITED NATIONS, March 28: United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Friday “condemned in strongest terms” the airing of Dutch film-maker Geert Wilders’ offensively anti-Islamic film.
“There is no justification for hate speech or incitement to violence,” Ban said, adding that the right of free expression was not at stake there.
The UN chief also acknowledged the efforts of the government of the Netherlands to stop the broadcast of the film and appealed “for calm to those understandably offended by it. Freedom must always be accompanied by social responsibility”.
“The United Nations is the centre of the world’s efforts to advance mutual respect, understanding and dialogue. We must also recognise that the real fault line is not between Muslim and Western societies, as some would have us believe, but between small minorities of extremists, on different sides, with a vested interest in stirring hostility and conflict.”
STRONG REACTIONS: The film drew fire from Muslim and European officials, and a call for calm from Muslims in The Netherlands fearing a violent response, add agencies.
Muslim countries warned of strong reactions to the film, which came two years after a series of caricatures of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) were first published in the Danish media.
The government of Iran was among the first to react, saying the film showed that some Westerners were waging a “vendetta” against Islam, and warning of unspecified repercussions.
**A coalition of Jordanian media said they would take Wilders to court over the film and launch a campaign to boycott Dutch products. They urged Arab leaders to review ties with Denmark and the Netherlands.
The government of Bangladesh also condemned the film, saying in a statement that it could have “grave consequences … because it will offend millions of Muslims around the world”.**
However, Muslim leaders in The Netherlands called at a joint news conference for their co-religionists in other countries not to over-react. “We call on them to follow our strategy and not react with attacks on Dutch embassies or tourists,” the head of the Dutch Moroccan community, Mohamed Rabbae, said.
“We feel offended by the link between violence and Islam but we know this guy (Wilders). The best response is a response in a responsible manner.”
The European Union’s Slovenian presidency also attacked the film, saying it served “no other purpose than inflaming hatred.”
British Foreign Minister David Miliband stressed the importance of freedom of speech but said it should be combined with “respect for religious and racial diversity.”
Europe’s top human rights authority, the Strasbourg-based Council of Europe, called the film “a distasteful manipulation which exploits ignorance, prejudice and fear”.
“It is simply political propaganda and it plays into the hands of extremists who are given such a prominent role in his film,” the council’s secretary general, Terry Davis, said in a statement.
Wilders himself said that he was pleased with the relatively calm reaction in his country. “It was not my intention to cause riots,” he told AFP.
Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende issued a statement condemning the film which he said “equates Islam with violence. We reject that interpretation.”
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Prove to me it is, and I will.
lol. when ALLAH SWT dont care about you and your opinion then why should we :)
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Your beloved pagan genius is not after “some Muslims” but against Islam in general.
Wilders has said he made the film to call attention to what he sees as the Islamic threat to Europe – which he compares to the fascism that led to World War II.
Wilders suggested that Muslims should “tear out half of the Koran if they wished to stay in the Netherlands” because it contained ‘terrible things’ and that Muhammad would “in these days be hunted down as a terrorist”.
On 8 August 2007, Wilders opined in a letter[19] to the Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant that the Koran, which he called a “fascist book”, should be outlawed in the Netherlands, like Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf.[20] He stated that: “The book incites hatred and killing and therefore has no place in our legal order.”
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British Foreign Minister David Miliband stressed the importance of freedom of speech but said it should be combined with “respect for religious and racial diversity.”
this is a balanced reaction
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lol. when ALLAH SWT dont care about you and your opinion then why should we :)
Ahhh... no answer. But why? Proving something is peaceful is usually pretty easy. Apparently not.
Makes me wonder if you really believe what you "believe".
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this is a balanced reaction
By saying that, Brit Foreign Minister agreed that the film is disrespectful for Islam.
This is the point which hskhan need to understand when he praises this film and its creator, and says that the film is only against "some Muslims" and not against Islam in general.
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Wilders says calm Muslim response to film is "responsible" and "respectable". Looks forward to dialogue, something which Muslims have a problem doing.
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^ that is the important thing. Geert is not a fool in the traditional sense. He is probably and justifiably, furious about the reactions of his own government after the beheading of Van Gough.
Whether correctly or incorrectly, muslims need to understand that there is genuine fear in their adopted countries.