BJP plan to set life term for cow killing

[ssingh]

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@Captain1

Then you should be condemning this act of "plan to set life term" rather than defending by providing different "thoughts" and possibilities.

Yes i do condemn it. I said this before. some guy retorted by bringing in secularism so i retorted back by different thoughts and possibilities which are also not secular.

[Lahore_981]

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Yaar slaughtering the cow for eating purposes is not commensurate with cow "killing".....

Some people need to learn the purpose of food and the difference between killing and slaughtering....

[anjjan]

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In Bombay Muslims used to celeberate cow slaughtring in public places during their religious festivs and were not ready to pay attention to any kind of requests, skirmishesh and riots.

Ultimately it helped in the emergence of a strong Hindu fundamentalis party 'Shiv Sena'. Today Muslims do not dare to celeberate cow slaughtering in public areas in Bombay.
Does it mean that they understand only one language???

Anyhow, want to know if beef is compulsory in Islam??? If it is mendatory, what is wrong in honouring the sentiments of other communities???

[Captain1]

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^ beef is not compulsory, in future you should ask religious questions in its own forum, traditionally cows are preferred on Eidul Azha as they are vastly available hence economical.

[Abhiman]

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As I said earlier, When in Rome, do as the Romans do. So I dont think there is anything wrong in calling for this ban.

Someone said that pork-eating is not illegal in Turkey or Egypt (and thats coz theyre secular) so India must also allow Muslims to eat beef,

but as I pointed out, pig slaughter in many forms is illegal in India keeping in mind Muslim sentiments.

So thats another form of secularism. So I think that the call for the ban of cow slaughter in all Indian states is not entirely wrong.

[vineshvk]

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@Lahore 981

Did you read my post?

Do not confuse Islam in a thread which is about Hinduism and do not shift topics.

I clearly said, unlike Hinduism, where cow is only sacred in India and the cow protection movements are run only in India without any regard to the cows in the other parts of the world, in Islam, and for Muslims, pigs are haraam in all parts of the world. If it is a pig in India or America of South Africa, it is similarly forbidden.

Here is the difference. In Hinduism, you can do whatever that pleases you or you feel confortable with. Be it cow protection in India and outside India eating it, because thats what makes you assimilate in a society better. In Islam, we cannot eat pork even being in America because it is a norm there. For us, it is haraam and haraam everywhere.

Baat samajh main aae keh naheen aee

Better u read ur own post. U dont make sense buddy. This guy is commiting suicide and the beauty is that he dont know that..

[truepakistani]

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@Abdali

You are always right, always... In hindu India its either muslims, christians, dalits, commies, Pakis, Chini, ISI but NEVER hindus NEVER.. thats why I said you are always right always.

absolutely bang on!

in India u always hear the muslims being called Islamic terrorists ;

the sikhs being called sikh terrorist not punjabi terrorists ;

but in the case of LTTE its not hindu terrorist but tamil terrorist.

I guess its their brand of secularism.
Another example,
: when Mahatama Gandhi was murdered it ,the murderer was called a Marathi nationalist not a hindu extremist & no riots followed;

:when rajiv Gandhi was killed it was by a Tamil terrorist & not a hindu terrorist & hence no riots followed but........

:when Indira was murdered its not Punjabi terrorist but Sikh terrorists & 5000 innocent Sikhs were murdered and the incident was called " RIOTS "

so u r right in hindu india its NEVER NEVER hindus who do something wrong

[truepakistani]

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@vineshvk

Ignorence is bliss isnt it. The problem with u guys is that u see Hinduism from the eyes of a strict muslim. Hinduism encompasses everything. Hinduism has a lots of influences from local culture that is there. Hindusim is not a religion of the book and doesnt have strict rules. We dont follow 1000 years of outdated rules. I can burn manusmriti and not even one hindu will raise their voice aganst it. Hinduism prefer you to be vegetarian. But u r not forced to be a vegetarian. And about cows, I think the main reason is that cow gives us milk. that is its compared to ur mother. So killing cows is like killing ur mother. Nandi which is an oxon is associated with Lord Shiva. So these are the referances. But there are many stories of people in Hindu mythology who have been eating meat but have been rendered good by their deeds. I think there is one instances where a tribal prays to Lord Shiva and offers meat and blood. So I dont know why I should be an outcast. I think majoritiy of Keralite unless they are Brahmin eat beef. This is not true to many other places in India where cow is revered almost to godliness. if these people want to ban cows then let them do so. what is the problem. I can survive without eating beaf, for me its just another food.

nothing could be farther from truth about hinduism . I dare u to burn manusmiriti . do it publicaly & see your house go up in flames , set on fire by RSS , VHP , BJP fanatics . remember those fanatics who burnt the sets of"WATER"

regarding u not following 1000 years old laws ; its right cos u follow 5000 yrs old laws written by the aryans (Rigveda)

and finally if u think cow is like ur mother then why do u stop caring about these cows(mothers) after they stop giving milk . u can see these old , diseased cows on the streets all over India . Does Hinduism teach u to throw ur mothers on the streets after they r no longer of service to u?

[sTaLkEr]

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^ well said! Indeed its Fundo-power in India as far as their mainstream political scene is concerned. From mid-90s onwards, the Hinduist elements in India have contnued to gain prominence and importance. So much is there eleverage that they can stop films from being shot, as was the case with “Water” [which has now gone on to become a sensational success in North America – only after the director chose to shoot the film in a far more tolerant Sri Lanka] and even change the entire school ciriculla to suit their own perspective of India history [whatever that is]. Cities have been renamed to prove a point, that the real identity of India – the true and the original one – is very Hindu, and we’ll make sure that it stays that way. Long live the Indian brand of secularism – heck by these standards, even NWFP under MMA is “secular”!!

[vineshvk]

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@truepakistani

nothing could be farther than truth about hinduism . I dare u to burn manusmiriti . do it publicaly & see your house go up in flames , set on fire by RSS , VHP , BJP fanatics . remember those fanatics who burnt the sets of"WATER"

regarding u not following 1000 years old laws ; its right cos u follow 5000 yrs old laws written by the aryans (Rigveda)

and finally if u think cow is like ur mother then why do u stop caring about these cows(mothers) after they stop giving milk . u can see these old , diseased cows on the streets all over India . Does Hinduism teach u to throw ur mothers on the streets after they r no longer of service to u?

So ISlam teached u to kill ur mothers after they are no longer use to u. What is better killing or allowing it go around and having their life of their own.

[vineshvk]

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@sTaLkEr

^ well said! Indeed its Fundo-power in India as far as their mainstream political scene is concerned. From mid-90s onwards, the Hinduist elements in India have contnued to gain prominence and importance. So much is there eleverage that they can stop films from being shot, as was the case with “Water” [which has now gone on to become a sensational success in North America – only after the director chose to shoot the film in a far more tolerant Sri Lanka] and even change the entire school ciriculla to suit their own perspective of India history [whatever that is]. Cities have been renamed to prove a point, that the real identity of India – the true and the original one – is very Hindu, and we’ll make sure that it stays that way. Long live the Indian brand of secularism – heck by these standards, even NWFP under MMA is “secular”!!

Stalker.. sweety, Indian brand of secularism works. if not such laws would have been in place the day India was independent. All the so called secular state have certain laws which may hinder some religious principle. In germany for egs. u r not allowed to use loud speakers and call for namaz while churches are allowd to bang the bell every half an hour. Is that not affront to ur belief.
Hinduist elements came into existance when popular parties at that time stop supporting even the genuine demand by the normal voters for fair rule.
I am not a supporter of any hindu nationalist party, but i have to defend them here because u people are the biggest hypocrates in the world, who come lecturing indians about secualrism where there is none in Pakistan.

[Lahore_981]

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@vineshvk

Better u read ur own post. U dont make sense buddy. This guy is commiting suicide and the beauty is that he dont know that..:D

What do you think about other people and their comments.
You cannot declare everybody "A guy commiting suicide" :D :D

[truepakistani]

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@vineshvk

So ISlam teached u to kill ur mothers after they are no longer use to u. What is better killing or allowing it go around and having their life of their own.

u should be quite dumb to say that in Islam cow is like our mother . but in hinduism it is . remember ur own statement . not only in Pakistan but in all the countries in the world(except India & nepal) the cows are kept for their milk and then slaughtered for their meat . Nobody looks at them as their mother . It is just another animal .That’s it . My question to u is if cow is like a mother to u then why not take care of it , u can set up animal houses , keep them at these places to die a diginified death(only if u consider it holy & mother like )
Is it too much to ask? instead u let them roam around on the streets, to die a slow painful death only to be eaten by eagles & dogs!!!( holy cowwwwwwww) if u keep them off the street then no muslim brother would be able to slaughter it & hence will be safe from this new law.

[Stewie]

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I guess the Indians can do what they want, it's their country.

I still disagree on the issue though.

[Lahore_981]

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@truepakistani

u should be quite dumb to say that in Islam cow is like our mother . but in hinduism it is . remember ur own statement . not only in Pakistan but in all the countries in the world(except India & nepal) the cows are kept for their milk and then slaughtered for their meat . Nobody looks at them as their mother . It is just another animal .That’s it . My question to u is if cow is like a mother to u then why not take care of it , u can set up animal houses , keep them at these places to die a diginified death(only if u consider it holy & mother like )
Is it too much to ask? instead u let them roam around on the streets, to die a slow painful death only to be eaten by eagles & dogs!!!( holy cowwwwwwww) if u keep them off the street then no muslim brother would be able to slaughter it & hence will be safe from this new law.

Very good logical comments.
I am sure, Hindus have no answer for it.

[vineshvk]

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@truepakistani

u should be quite dumb to say that in Islam cow is like our mother . but in hinduism it is . remember ur own statement . not only in Pakistan but in all the countries in the world(except India & nepal) the cows are kept for their milk and then slaughtered for their meat . Nobody looks at them as their mother . It is just another animal .That’s it . My question to u is if cow is like a mother to u then why not take care of it , u can set up animal houses , keep them at these places to die a diginified death(only if u consider it holy & mother like )
Is it too much to ask? instead u let them roam around on the streets, to die a slow painful death only to be eaten by eagles & dogs!!!( holy cowwwwwwww) if u keep them off the street then no muslim brother would be able to slaughter it & hence will be safe from this new law.

Dumpo read my post from first and come here accusing me, i have just put hypothesis of why hindus may not like to eat cows.
I have already stated that I eat beef. In india or anywhere in the world.
Hinduism considers every animal as sacred, but its impractical to have them in ur courtyard always. But does that mean that u need to kill them and eat them.U dont have the right to take a life when u r unable to create one.
There are animal houses and other things. But still there are lot of cows. In india we cannot give house to every citizen then how are we going to provide for animals.
The question here is wheather one need to ban or not. I have already stated that i am not in favour of the ban. But I dont like people here who come here crying about their fellow muslims going hungry in india just because of a cow ban.
Here what is required is a little bit of sensibilities from the part of muslims or christian. I think muslims can slotter or do whatever with their cow but not in public places. This may affront to people who are much more strict than me in religious matters. There are many thinks that muslims consider dear what if such sensibilities are not taken care of.
HOLY COW:.

[truepakistani]

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@vineshvk

Dumpo read my post from first and come here accusing me, i have just put hypothesis of why hindus may not like to eat cows. I have already stated that I eat beef. In india or anywhere in the world. Hinduism considers every animal as sacred, but its impractical to have them in ur courtyard always. But does that mean that u need to kill them and eat them.U dont have the right to take a life when u r unable to create one. There are animal houses and other things. But still there are lot of cows. In india we cannot give house to every citizen then how are we going to provide for animals. The question here is wheather one need to ban or not. I have already stated that i am not in favour of the ban. But I dont like people here who come here crying about their fellow muslims going hungry in india just because of a cow ban. Here what is required is a little bit of sensibilities from the part of muslims or christian. I think muslims can slotter or do whatever with their cow but not in public places. This may affront to people who are much more strict than me in religious matters. There are many thinks that muslims consider dear what if such sensibilities are not taken care of. HOLY COW:.

u don't even know how to argue . its funny how u hindus consider urself so intelligent & superior and make fun of sardars , pakis & everybody else.

cow as mother is not just ur hypothesis it is a fact of life for hindus .remember :

GAU HAMARI MATA HAI

so bye the same logic
BAIL TUMHARA BAAP HAI
ha ha haaaaaa

and I didn't even once say that I'm in favour of taking life. All I'm saying is that if cow is 'pujanyea' (holy) to u why r they on the roads and causing havoc to the traffic . listen u don't have to come up with additinal infrastructure . when the cow is giving milk , at that time it is owned by somebody .that person takes care of the cow and treats like a family member.but as soon as it stops giving milk the cow is abondaned . all i'm saying is that u guys should come up with some rules that whoever owns the cow cannot abonden it at will.the same cow that fed a family of 5 in its youth shouldn't be left to die on the streets. I live in the US and here u never ever see cows in the streets.Some kind of regulation shouldn't be that difficult to enforce esp when the cow is same as ur mother & holy

[Captain1]

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@Abhiman

As I said earlier, When in Rome, do as the Romans do. So I dont think there is anything wrong in calling for this ban.

Someone said that pork-eating is not illegal in Turkey or Egypt (and thats coz theyre secular) so India must also allow Muslims to eat beef, but as I pointed out, pig slaughter in many forms is illegal in India keeping in mind Muslim sentiments.

So thats another form of secularism. So I think that the call for the ban of cow slaughter in all Indian states is not entirely wrong.

Mind you we are not talking about Saudis going to India for killing cows, we are talking about the population who has lived in that place for hundreds/thousands of years... The saying you are using is out of context. Muslims are not insignificant minority, if they are forced to live as insignificant ones then I can bet times won't be good for India in short or long terms.

[Captain1]

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NOTE: Guys guys! Please refrain from off-topic digression, you will receive WARNING points in case you do now!

[Captain1]

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@vineshvk

So ISlam teached u to kill ur mothers after they are no longer use to u. What is better killing or allowing it go around and having their life of their own.

Islam distinguishes between human and animals, who is animal remains animal for the rest of its life and who is human remains human, we are taught to be caring of animal but not to the extent that we give them sort-of-real status of family member.