BJP plan to set life term for cow killing

[Abdali]

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@ssingh

^ now it is even more clearly visible about who makes wrong assumptions to prove their point.

absolutely clear absolutely..

[Encrypted]

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Muslims dont eat pork but they also dont stop non-Muslims from eating it. Muslims does not kill anyone if they eat pork.

This law should be valid for Hindus ONLY! if it is not, then its a very serious matter. It could also lead to another Gujarat massacre.

PS. I'm happy to see that most of the Indians on this board are against this barbaric law.

[anjjan]

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@Encrypted

Muslims dont eat pork but they also dont stop non-Muslims from eating it. Muslims does not kill anyone if they eat pork.
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Can you name a single pork shop for non-Muslims in any Islamic State, or in any locality where Muslims are in majority???

[anjjan]

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There are Christians, Jews and Parsis living in India, but they do not make noise for beef.
Problem is there only with the Muslim community.

Where it is written in Bible or Quran that beef is must for these so-called beleivers???

What is wrong in honouring the sentiments of a majority community in any country???

No one will send you to hell if you do not eat beef.

[sTaLkEr]

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^^ Absolutely nothing. Just don't talk about secularism next time :)

[Lajawab]

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@NameInUse

Muslims in the US eat pork, so what?

Islamophobic ignorance acting up again?

Shame on you for being a lying hate monger…

@vineshvk

I am a hindu and I eat beef. I come from a place where beef is available freely. There is no fatwa or of that sort against meat eating in India.

How can you do that? It’s like a Muslim eating pork or a Muslim setting fire to the Quran himself…

Perhaps most Hindus think that if they are sacrilegious and disrespectful to their sacred and holy things, they might be construed as free thinking and liberal minded in the world…

Heck…There is nothing I find more cheap and vulgar than someone selling his soul and spirit out to be whored so that he is considered good or praiseworthy from someone of another belief…

[vineshvk]

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@Lajawab

Islamophobic ignorance acting up again?

Shame on you for being a lying hate monger...

How can you do that? It's like a Muslim eating pork or a Muslim setting fire to the Quran himself...

Perhaps most Hindus think that if they are sacrilegious and disrespectful to their sacred and holy things, they might be construed as free thinking and liberal minded in the world...

Heck...There is nothing I find more cheap and vulgar than someone selling his soul and spirit out to be whored so that he is considered good or praiseworthy from someone of another belief...

Ignorence is bliss isnt it.
The problem with u guys is that u see Hinduism from the eyes of a strict muslim. Hinduism encompasses everything. Hinduism has a lots of influences from local culture that is there.
Hindusim is not a religion of the book and doesnt have strict rules. We dont follow 1000 years of outdated rules. I can burn manusmriti and not even one hindu will raise their voice aganst it. Hinduism prefer you to be vegetarian. But u r not forced to be a vegetarian. And about cows, I think the main reason is that cow gives us milk. that is its compared to ur mother. So killing cows is like killing ur mother. Nandi which is an oxon is associated with Lord Shiva. So these are the referances. But there are many stories of people in Hindu mythology who have been eating meat but have been rendered good by their deeds. I think there is one instances where a tribal prays to Lord Shiva and offers meat and blood.
So I dont know why I should be an outcast. I think majoritiy of Keralite unless they are Brahmin eat beef.
This is not true to many other places in India where cow is revered almost to godliness. if these people want to ban cows then let them do so. what is the problem. I can survive without eating beaf, for me its just another food.

[Lahore_981]

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@vineshvk

Muslims like u have a blind eye actually blinded by the hatred of other religion. Learn to be a little more tolerant. tumare tho akal hi nahin hein, tho baat karne me kya fayda.

Does the muslim want to ban pigs in USA. Can anybody support that. Hindus those who dont eat cows dont eat them anywhere. And if u see some hindus going to mac and eating beef then they might be eating in India as well. I eat too.It depends on which part of India u come from. But u have no idea of the diversity of India and why am i talking to this guy who doesnt know to differentiate between Air India and air in India.

Did you read my post?

Do not confuse Islam in a thread which is about Hinduism and do not shift topics.

I clearly said, unlike Hinduism, where cow is only sacred in India and the cow protection movements are run only in India without any regard to the cows in the other parts of the world, in Islam, and for Muslims, pigs are haraam in all parts of the world. If it is a pig in India or America of South Africa, it is similarly forbidden.

Here is the difference. In Hinduism, you can do whatever that pleases you or you feel confortable with. Be it cow protection in India and outside India eating it, because thats what makes you assimilate in a society better. In Islam, we cannot eat pork even being in America because it is a norm there. For us, it is haraam and haraam everywhere.

Baat samajh main aae keh naheen aee

[hareem01]

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@anjjan

Can you name a single pork shop for non-Muslims in any Islamic State, or in any locality where Muslims are in majority???

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what does that mean...............muslims dont eat pigs but they will not stop any non muslim to eat pigs.

[mercenary2k]

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@anjjan

Can you name a single pork shop for non-Muslims in any Islamic State, or in any locality where Muslims are in majority???

Turkey

[Abhiman]

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Well pork-eating is banned in Israel which is Jewish, and in all Muslim countries such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia (except Egypt and Turkey which are secular nations).

So if a Christian who visits Pakistan or Israel cannot eat pork even if he wants to. Even if he smuggles pork he can be arrested.
So if cow-slaughter is banned in India, I dont think there should be a problem if we go by the same principle.

I clearly said, unlike Hinduism, where cow is only sacred in India and the cow protection movements are run only in India without any regard to the cows in the other parts of the world, in Islam, and for Muslims, pigs are haraam in all parts of the world. If it is a pig in India or America of South Africa, it is similarly forbidden.

I guess you are slightly mistaken. Well I have not heard of anti-pig slaughter movements in US or European countries by Muslims. There if you object to anybody eating pork you will be politely told that “If you dont wanna eat, then dont eat, but my religion dont forbid so I can eat”.

Similarly, in Hinduism cow-eating is forbidden whether you are in India, Nepal, Pakistan or USA but like I cannot stop any one eating beef in Karachi or New York, can I?

Now you cant eat pork in Israel, coz its 90% Jews wont like it. Similarly, you still couldnt eat cow in formerly Hindu Nepal coz its Hindus will be hurt. But if Bush eats pork sitting next to Ehud Barak in Washington, Barak cant stop him. But Bush cant dare eat pork in Israel.

Moral : When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

[Captain1]

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@Abhiman

Well pork-eating is banned in Israel which is Jewish, and in all Muslim countries such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia (except Egypt and Turkey which are secular nations).

So if a Christian who visits Pakistan or Israel cannot eat pork even if he wants to. Even if he smuggles pork he can be arrested. So if cow-slaughter is banned in India, I dont think there should be a problem if we go by the same principle.

Prove it! I have never seen anyone getting arrested for "smuggling" pork meat in Pakistan, there are people who go boar (wild pig) hunting in Pakistan.

[sTaLkEr]

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@Abhiman

Well pork-eating is banned in Israel which is Jewish, and in all Muslim countries such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia (except Egypt and Turkey which are secular nations).

So if a Christian who visits Pakistan or Israel cannot eat pork even if he wants to. Even if he smuggles pork he can be arrested. So if cow-slaughter is banned in India, I dont think there should be a problem if we go by the same principle.

And so by the same principle India can NOT be by any means call itself a "secular" country, that is in writing. It does not exist in practice anyway, that's enough said. Talk about failing to understand your own logic!!!

[Abhiman]

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And so by the same principle India can NOT be by any means call itself a "secular" country, that is in writing. It does not exist in practice anyway, that's enough said. Talk about failing to understand your own logic!!!
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Oops I forgot to say that slaughter of pigs is quite illegal in India too.

Since I cannot post url now there was a recent case where the Bollywood actor John Abraham saw the illegal slaughter of pigs in Goa and wrote a letter to its CM.
Cow slaughter has been banned by law in most (but not all) Indian states. But those Hindu groups are demanding an all-India ban.

Secularism does not override the rule that "majority wins". Like in USA which still has to legalize same-gender marriages because its majority catholics do not approve of it.

[ehsan]

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@anjjan

Can you name a single pork shop for non-Muslims in any Islamic State, or in any locality where Muslims are in majority???

Indonesia.

[shweetdreamz]

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good. maybe this will promote more heart healthy alternatives to red meat among indian muslims.

[ssingh]

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i came across a much better explanation as to why cattle are considered sacred by hindus from another person.

cattle are treated as a symbol of 'sacrifice' by hindus. what sacrifice do they make is the question. They give us milk, butter, plough our land etc. In return we dont give them anything. They just live by by eating any road side grass that is available in plenty and inspite of that, they serve us.

[Captain1]

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@ssingh

i came across a much better explanation as to why cattle are considered sacred by hindus from another person.

cattle are treated as a symbol of 'sacrifice' by hindus. what sacrifice do they make is the question. They give us milk, butter, plough our land etc. In return we dont give them anything. They just live by by eating any road side grass that is available in plenty and inspite of that, they serve us.

That is because they are rendered useless as they can't be slaughtered in general. The owners of cows in rural areas keep them healthy in result of which they get milk (and its by-products). The ones roaming in cities are the result of exploitation of the fact that no-one will (supposedly) steal them for their meat.

[ssingh]

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@Captain1

That is because they are rendered useless as they can't be slaughtered in general. The owners of cows in rural areas keep them healthy in result of which they get milk (and its by-products). The ones roaming in cities are the result of exploitation of the fact that no-one will (supposedly) steal them for their meat.

there is a family living near the place where i leave. They have kept quiet a number of cattle and the members of that family take all the cattle outside to the fields including to the field which my father owns and we have allowed them so that they can graze and it helps us also so that the grass dont overgrow (including the one on roadside).some cattle have been rendered useless when tractors came. This is present india. Time has changed.

Imagine ancient india, you will get answer as to why cattle were sacred and still sacred to many (that too when our scriptures encourage but not force vegetarian food). Even i respect cattle. But i dont believe in imposing it on others.

[Captain1]

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@ssingh

Imagine ancient india, you will get answer as to why cattle were sacred and still sacred to many (that too when our scriptures encourage but not force vegetarian food). Even i respect cattle. But i dont believe in imposing it on others.

Then you should be condemning this act of "plan to set life term" rather than defending by providing different "thoughts" and possibilities.