Re: Bill O'Reilly and Geraldo Rivera's shouting match
that is irrelevant
Nope.
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the point is they are illegal and thus not suppose to be in USA...
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True.
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getting rid of them will mean one less person dying from these drunk drivers
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Not necessarily. You should deport the citizen drunk drivers if you want to eliminate the problem and protect families otherwise tying drunk driving with any other issue is scoring a cheap political point exploiting the misery of the family.
The father of victim girl doesn't want immigration issue dragged into the crime of drunk driving.
Re: Bill O'Reilly and Geraldo Rivera's shouting match
Not necessarily. You should deport the citizen drunk drivers if you want to eliminate the problem and protect families otherwise tying drunk driving with any other issue is scoring a cheap political point exploiting the misery of the family.
The father of victim girl doesn't want immigration issue dragged into the crime of drunk driving.
Point remains, if this guy wasn't in this country, this girl would have probably been alive.
Although drunk driving is a problem, getting rid of these illegal immigrants who don't have driving licenses, drink while driving and if they commit a crime, they run back to Mexico.
This just highlights another problem in which USA faces with having a huge illegal population in USA.
Re: Bill O'Reilly and Geraldo Rivera's shouting match
Point remains, if this guy wasn't in this country, this girl would have probably been alive.
Although drunk driving is a problem, getting rid of these illegal immigrants who don't have driving licenses, drink while driving and if they commit a crime, they run back to Mexico.
This just highlights another problem in which USA faces with having a huge illegal population in USA.
You are mixing two different issues and using one to score a point for other like Maulana Orally. :D Your point has been refuted by many. I don't see any purpose in continuiing this dialogue further.
Re: Bill O'Reilly and Geraldo Rivera's shouting match
Point remains, if this guy wasn't in this country, this girl would have probably been alive.
Why stop there?
If Columbus hadn't been born, America wouldn't have been discovered...If America wouldn't have been discovered, the Native Americans wouldn't have been almost wiped out...If they hadn't been wiped out, Virginia wouldn't be in existence...And since Virginia wouldn't be in existence, this accident wouldn't have taken place...
Let's take it another way...
If Ford hadn't invented the automobile...
You get the picture...Has anyone ever told you that your arguments are really inane?
Re: Bill O'Reilly and Geraldo Rivera's shouting match
You are mixing two different issues and using one to score a point for other like Maulana Orally. :D Your point has been refuted by many. I don't see any purpose in continuiing this dialogue further.
Re: Bill O'Reilly and Geraldo Rivera's shouting match
Actually it's the fault of the girls' parents...If they had practised safe sex, these girls wouldn't be born as a result they wouldn't have been killed...And we wouldn't have to be reading your inane arguments...
Re: Bill O'Reilly and Geraldo Rivera's shouting match
^^ that doesn't make any sense what so ever
Ok, let me make it clear. You have no idea what Geraldo's saying. Using your own logic:
Muslims are in the states on student visas. Some of them read the Quran. They eat halal food. We all agree they're religious lunatics. If one of them decides to get drunk on fatwas, climb aboard a plane, and kill a few thousand white folks by piloting a plane into a skyscrapper- do you all of a sudden kick every muslim student out?
Heck, to quote you, the "point remains, if [muslim students werent] in this country, [thousands of white folks] would have probably been alive." Geez! Why didnt Bush didnt think of that when he wanted to fight terrorism! Just deport all them crazy muslim students!
P.S. I'm baffled Fox news surpasses your comprehension level. I've got a few cartoons I can lend you. They're in english though. Let me know if that's ok.
Re: Bill O'Reilly and Geraldo Rivera's shouting match
^^ Your logic has one big flaw.
The Muslim Students are here legally where this Mexican who killed this girl is not.
Actually - most of the 9/11 hijackers had a history immigration violations. That's illegal. Most foreign students do as well. Many terrorists had violations + Many muslim students also have violations = Muslims. Illegal. Same ****. Kick them out.
Being a citizen or not is besides the point. And you're missing it.
An illegal isnt any better at running over a white girl than a white man is at running over another white girl. Race is irrelevant. What's at the heart of the issue is this - if all illegals are so damn scary why aint they deported at the first oppurtunity? Heck, this guy had a criminal history.
Legally this mexican should have been deported a long time ago. He had a criminal record. We all know Mexicans love drinking Coronas and driving old Buicks over white girls. What we dont know is why he wasnt kicked out before. Why? Because them illegals gives me my fresh Ontario grain-fed chicken all year round. Thats why.
Re: Bill O'Reilly and Geraldo Rivera's shouting match
two different issues here.
on drunk driving issue, I completely agree with Geraldo, drunk driving is drunk driving and that needs to be tackled. Just yesterday on the news they had some dude in chicago who killed a bunch of kids and the girl riding with him in his car while he was drunk, served a couple of years in jail, got out and just killed some more ppl while driving drunk.
Now on the issue of illegal immigration, if law enforcement picks people up, for whatever crime, drunk drving, car jacking, gang fights, if the perps are illegal, deport them.
Deport them, thats fine.. But O Reilly seems to be making a sweeping genralization and connecting two things that are completely different.
