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^ This should give courage to WI, NZ, Ireland, Scotland, Kenya, UAE, US, Canada (basically everyone else). If cricket is to remain a sports and not turn into a circus then this "proposal" must not come to life.
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Imran Khan is against the proposal. No surprise.
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No wonder WIndians are hushed. They will get 100% more than what they were getting. While PCB, BD and SA would lose the most.
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BCB has sold themselves for the “Test status”, the proposal is one vote short now.
I think BCCI showed them the stick and it worked wonders on BCB.
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Asia cup is coming. Indians know how to use pressure tactics.
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Besharmi or dhatai ki koi inteha nahi hey.
BTW Ramiz the MBA is in favour of this proposal
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I dont understand how BCB thinks that its test status could be revoked. The biggest problem is, like other asian boards, BCB is also way too corrupt and incompetent. And why dont they see when someone is threatening them right now, wut wont they do once they get all the power and wut not.
Even a resolution for test status needs majority votes, so if BCB sticks with PCB and others, it'll be in majority. They suck!
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Two related comments following India’s 4-0 spanking by NewZealand
cricinfo:
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Is there any other example of the same thing happening in any other sport ??
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I heard WI also sold out? so now its between Pak, SA and NZ to see who breaks down first?
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I heard WI also sold out? so now its between Pak, SA and NZ to see who breaks down first?
I think NZ is with Australia already. So it's just Pak and SA.
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I am under severe pressure – SLC PresidentThe Island
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The PCB has strongly opposed the move to revamp the global game and called it “neither in line with principle of equity nor in the interest of game of cricket”.
The announcement came after a meeting of its governing board, presided by PCB chairman Zaka Ashraf, who had been present at the ICC meeting in Dubai last week to discuss the radical proposals which will give the Big Three countries a larger portion of ICC revenues and more of a say in the game’s administration.
“The Board Members deliberated and expressed serious concerns on the model proposed by BCCI, ECB and CA which was neither in line with principle of equity nor in the interest of game of cricket,” a PCB press release said. “The Board has reiterated the position that Chairman PCB request audience with the Patron of PCB, H.E the Prime Minister to apprise him on this matter of immense significance and of national interest which will have wide reaching impact on future of cricket in Pakistan.”
Ashraf said last week that he wanted all decisions to be taken through consensus, and didn’t want the proposals to be approved hastily. “The Board appreciated and supported the stance taken by Chairman PCB at the last ICC Board meeting at Dubai. The Board authorised Chairman PCB Mr. Zaka Ashraf and COO Mr. Subhan Ahmad to engage with other Board members to align the common position and take other requisite remedial measures in the interest of cricket in Pakistan.”
After the Dubai meeting, the ICC had said its Executive Board “unanimously supported” a set of principles which were more or less along the lines of the original proposal, though there were some concessions granted to the members outside the Big Three. The proposals had not been voted on in that meeting, but could be at the next ICC meeting in Singapore on February 8.
ICC revamp : PCB oppose Big Three proposals | Cricket News | Cricinfo ICC Site | ESPN Cricinfo
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Who will be the first to give in, SLA, SA or Pakistan?*
The cricket Boards of Pakistan, South Africa and Sri Lanka are in no mood to accept the revamp proposals that will give India, England, Australia virtually unilateral control of world cricket.**
When it comes to distribution of money and power, pragmatism and logic often take a backseat. Two former world champions and the No. 1 Test team are clearly finding it tough to accept that world cricket could finally be in the hands of India, England and Australia, the self-proclaimed ‘Big Three’ of the International Cricket Council.
Citing considerable monetary gains for all cricket-playing nations, the Board of Control for Cricket in India, backed by its English and Australian counterparts, is pushing for the controversial ‘Position Paper’ to go through at the ICC Executive Board meeting in Singapore on February 8. But South Africa, Pakistan and Sri Lanka are in no mood to relent. The South Africans, who were the first to call the proposals “fundamentally flawed”, have officially denied reports of any ‘deal’ with BCCI.
The relationship between Cricket South Africa and BCCI has soured in recent times and the Proteas, the No. 1 Test team in the ICC rankings, have scotched reports that it is backing the Big Three’s proposals on sweeping changes in ICC’s administration and revenue share.
In a press statement on Tuesday, the South Africans said: "CSA would like to dismiss a report (in Cricinfo) that suggests that CSA is in the process of concluding a deal with the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) that will see, amongst other things, Chief Executive Haroon Lorgat reintegrated into top administration in exchange for CSA supporting the International Cricket Council (ICC) revamped proposal put forward by the BCCI, Cricket Australia (CA) and the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB).
“While we are engaged in discussions with the ICC and other Full members, including the BCCI, to find an acceptable way forward, we have not and will not consider deals that compromise our key principles and integrity. This is a difficult time for global cricket and attempts to mislead and create confusion are not welcome,” said CSA president, Chris Nenzani.
"CSA vehemently denies any notion of deals being made with any other party. On the contrary we will seek to uphold good governance and our professional approach to find solutions to the current proposals being considered by all the Member Boards.
“We have carefully considered the proposals and we have declared that we will engage further with the ICC and other Members to try and reach any consensus ahead of Saturday’s ICC Board meeting and that position still stands,” explained Nenzani.
“Naturally we want good relations with the ICC and all its Members, especially India with whom we have always enjoyed a special relationship, but we will exercise our responsibilities with due care, skill and integrity and we will uphold the principles of good governance,” concluded Nenzani.
Given the importance of this ‘Position Paper’, it will need a special resolution to accept the far-reaching changes. ICC will require a meeting to pass the resolution and according to its constitution, eight out of the 10 full members will need to back the proposal.
**Will Pakistan, Sri Lanka and South stand united?
Former ICC president Ehsan Mani of Pakistan, who is against the revamp plans, said: “No one will suffer if they stick together. Any ICC events without these (three) countries would not be viable in cricketing and financial terms. Cricket cannot afford continuous strife among its members. This will damage the game and ICC’s standing in the world,” he stated.
The Pakistan Cricket Board, after a meeting on Monday, termed the proposed plan as “not in line with the principle of equity nor in the interest of game of cricket”. Members of the PCB’s governing board said in a statement that they had serious concerns over the proposals.
Pakistani cricket legend Imran Khan has blasted the proposals, saying they would take the game back to the days of colonialism. The PCB said it had asked chairman Zaka Ashraf to seek guidance from Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and “to apprise him on this matter of immense significance and of national interest, which will have wide reaching impact on future of cricket in Pakistan”.
**So, politics will mix with cricket and given India and Pakistan’s tumultuous relationship, it is unlikely that PCB will easily cede power and control to their ‘arch-rivals’, even if financial logic suggests on the contrary. This, it will be a test of brain versus brawn.
The Sri Lankans are non-committal. Its executive committee is meeting in Colombo on Wednesday to chart the next course of action. But the mood remains one of defiance. As Sri Lanka celebrated Independence Day on Tuesday, their top cricket officials have voiced strong opposition to the proposals likening their campaign to the battle waged against to crush terrorism in the country.
“We fought brutal terrorists who were internationally powerful. But we fought them and defeated them despite international pressure,” an unnamed SLC official was quoted as saying in an article headlined ‘SLC will fight ICC like Sri Lanka fought terrorists’ by the Daily Mirror newspaper.
The official warned that unless they take a stand now, cricket will be destroyed if power is bestowed on a few countries. “They might even change the rules of the game to fit them. We have past examples. The bouncer rule was brought in by the then powerful England and Australia and wiped of West Indies cricket. In recent times, we know how India’s resistance has stopped DRS becoming law. There is a great danger lurking behind these proposals,” the top Lankan official added.
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On paper, it surely looks like a battle of attrition. But the power of money is so overwhelming, that equations can change dramatically. After all, cricket is a game of uncertainty.
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*aik aik kar ke sab bikna shurou ho gaye!
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Pakistan should stick to it’s principled stand even at the risk of being left alone. What is at stake here is the game not the money. If you want to play cricket like it should be then take a stand. History will appreciate this decision. i.e. Pakistan should not vote for big 3 proposal but remain within ICC
http://www.naibaat.com.pk/nbfinal/ePaper/lahore/04-02-2014/Detail/p10_03.jpg
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Pakistan must stand on principles , not to look for temporary monetary gains. These gains which are assured by India is not reliable....
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I dont think this is correct. The current situation is that SL and SA are going to oppose the move along with Pak.
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Pakistan should also move out of cricket with secondary sports like hockey (national sport) and soccer getting more attention. 12 nations in total for a global sports really doesn't bode well.
Cricket really has been reduced to south asia (pakistan, india and then SL and bangladesh or later afghanistan due to Pak) and ashes, though england and australia are loosing relevance all the time. In South Asia, it isn't working because the two giant powerhouses can't get along since india always inserts politics into cricket.
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As per latest from Osman Samiuddin, CSA has agreed on three principles out of nine from proposal, while extensively opposing six.
SLC is also getting ready to jump into a legal fight with ICC.
Honestly, ICC is such a bull crap org. Does "I" denote India here?