I cannot help but think that sometimes SC picks and chooses cases to hear against Musharraf and PPP. Memogate is very important issue so is NRO. But why is SC not hearing cases against NS? like Asghar khan’s and hudabiya paper mills cases?
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I do agree with you on that. The SC has been somewhat of an unofficial NS representative in the recent past. As far as the NRO is concerned, where was NS right when the NRO happened? Back then, he was shaking hands with Zardari, calling him a brother and all, and now hes up in arms against him.
However, I do like this war between the two nincompoops, as it paves the way for a viable 3rd option, and hopefully eliminates the current alternating lot of politicians once and for all.
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How dare u?
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memo thingie is more like a symbolic thing. No harm done. No harm could be done.
But shows how ugly current Govt is.
On the other hand NRO ---keeping them in power. They need to go.
I agree if SC stay strong, they should pay attention to NS cases too,
But present danger is Shaheed party.
Just like at one point SC went to karachi to fix things. Because that was the main thing at that point.
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In the greed of presidentship as promised by NS to CJ, he has lost his senses of balance. His focus only against PPP and Zardari is a sign of prejudism and racism. I hope sanity will prevail and he will not pass the judgement which will rock the boat and sink for ever.
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I would not go the extent calling SC biased, but if you look at matter of priority, between doing an autopsy of deadboy or attending a critical person whom a doctor should give priority?
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Why dont CJ & Co. explain their hands in validating Musharaf's take over in 1999? They should be prosecuting under Article 6 too... SC has power to turn down any declaration of Assembly, they can take down validation of Assembly too..
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Court actually went a step ahead of being biased and showed hatred (or personal grudge) towards Zardari and PM by using words "who happen to be president" . Zardari is corrupt and all that but he is still the constitutional president.
I totally agree with Degas Article 6 should be applied to all the judges who validated Musharraf. 13th Amendment can be shot down if required just like NRO was shot down.
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Yeah~! SC is biased as long as it does not dance on the tunes of some one, today it is PPP and PTI calling SC biased tomorrow it is PML-N or other parties simply because, SC is taking action against govt, so PPP is pissed, and because SC is not taking action against PML-N (so far) PTI is pissed ( not that SC has rejected any appeal from any PTI member but because PTI think that CJ should take SUO-MOTTO against PML-N!!!)
Moreover, lets spread the speculation that there is no institute in Pakistan which is functioning right.. and current Pakistan cannot exist any more... there is no hope and if self proclaimed massiah looses elections then that would be last nail in the coffin of Pakistan...
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Since Parliment is Supreme they should pass a resolution to abolish SC. Problem solved..they can sell the country next.and go back to france/dubai/uk/america/switzerland/spain/.
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Yeah~! SC is biased as long as it does not dance on the tunes of some one, today it is PPP and PTI calling SC biased tomorrow it is PML-N or other parties simply because, SC is taking action against govt, so PPP is pissed, and because SC is not taking action against PML-N (so far) PTI is pissed ( not that SC has rejected any appeal from any PTI member but because PTI think that CJ should take SUO-MOTTO against PML-N!!!)
Moreover, lets spread the speculation that there is no institute in Pakistan which is functioning right.. and current Pakistan cannot exist any more... there is no hope and if self proclaimed massiah looses elections then that would be last nail in the coffin of Pakistan...
Who said here PTI is pissed at SC? No one from the PTI leadership ever said such a thing! In fact they are very vocal in SC's independence. So I dont think there is any need for you to be senti for PML-N here
I am a SC fan in recent corruption cases like RPP. But I sometimes find it strange that SC picks and chooses cases against PPP. Now there is no doubt PPP is the most corrupt party starting from the very top. But the wordings of the verdicts is somewhat non judiciary in my opinion. Maybe SC decided to tackler bigger evil before tackling other cases which may or may not go against PML-N.
And Silaaj has a fair point about NS and NRO ;)
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i don't see any bias here, clearly this memo and nro case are more important and have greater and direct affects on countries performance and security... i'm sure they will go after N$ cases also, those hudaibia paper mills case is just like several corruption cases against zardari and company. sharif brothers should be tried and made to pay back all they looted if the cases proved to be right
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i don't see any bias here, clearly this memo and nro case are more important and have greater and direct affects on countries performance and security... i'm sure they will go after N$ cases also, those hudaibia paper mills case is just like several corruption cases against zardari and company. sharif brothers should be tried and made to pay back all they looted if the cases proved to be right
Hello? memo gate is just a 3 month old case. What was stopping SC to take on cases of NS's NRO (pardon), Asghar Khan petition and Punjab Govt stay case before that? In fact asghar khan petition is waiting for years! Judiciary is doing justice but selective justice...
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I cannot help but think that sometimes SC picks and chooses cases to hear against Musharraf and PPP. Memogate is very important issue so is NRO. But why is SC not hearing cases against NS? like Asghar khan's and hudabiya paper mills cases?
Of course the CJ is biased. The dude wasn't the angel he's been made out to be since Musharraf fired his a$$. What is the 'free' judiciary doing for the common man? People have to wait years and years before they get any justice. But if something comes up against PPP, and Mr. Ganja is the petitioner, SC takes notice right away. SC has become a parallel government in Pakistan and anyone who doesn't have their glasses tinted with PPP hatred can see that. All the CJ needs now is his own enforcement people and we can do away with the parliament.
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Have to agree with Seb here. SC must also investigate the corruption of others
What's more the CJ has been a big disappointment. The elections are just around the corner and I was hoping that the SC would pass laws before the next election ensuring that only those people who have declared their assets + have all their assets in Pakistan would be eligible to stand for public office. That should be THE first requirement for anyone standing in a general election
Otherwise nothing will change and the same chors would be returned to the next parliament and we will be back to square 1
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I 100% agree with OP that SC has a personal biased. Its almost like he wants to take Panga with they govt and may times, its just unnecessary.
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I do agree with you on that. The SC has been somewhat of an unofficial NS representative in the recent past. As far as the NRO is concerned, where was NS right when the NRO happened? Back then, he was shaking hands with Zardari, calling him a brother and all, and now hes up in arms against him. However, I do like this war between the two nincompoops, as it paves the way for a viable 3rd option, and hopefully eliminates the current alternating lot of politicians once and for all.
+1
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Hello? memo gate is just a 3 month old case. What was stopping SC to take on cases of NS's NRO (pardon), Asghar Khan petition and Punjab Govt stay case before that? In fact asghar khan petition is waiting for years! Judiciary is doing justice but selective justice...
N$'s Pardon is really a case? what is the case about that? did someone file any suite in court?
asghar khan petition is not only about nawaz sharif, there are several beneficiaries, and there are some "hidden funds" for some of the govt departments, ISI had a political wing (if i'm not wrong credit goes to ppp to disband this section), its job was to broker deals and drive political environment of the country to govt's desired direction.
and do you really think there is anything to hear about punjab govt's stay order? the provincial govt was dismissed because of political reasons, and federal govt of ppp failed to sustain the outcry caused by the governor's law, if that case is any worth, its fed govt which has to pursue the stay order and prove that governor's law was and is necessary in punjab.
in addition to that, none of these cases are at par the memo case, in which complete country was being sold, nuclear arsenal was being given up and much more, which is one of the most serious case in pakistani's judicial history.
all those cases against N$ and other people are also important, they just happen to be on a little lower scale as far as severity is concerned. not only that, SC should proceed the hudaibia mills case also. but i dont know if its good idea to overflow the highest court of country with those so many important cases all at the same time, everyday there will be a new decision or remark, which someone somewhere will find biased. if it will be against N$ they will say its biased, if it will be against MQM they will say its biased, so is the case with PPP. currently they are in the govt, they are the biggest party and they are the biggest fish as well. court should take cases one by one, based on their severity and importance.
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I can reply to all of your points but you missed the main point. MEMOGATE case is only 2-3 months old. Why did SC not take up all these cases before that?
As I said, I m not saying SC is not doing justice but they are doing selective justice and as of right now they are only selecting cases against PPP. They have time for umphteen "tauheen-e-aadalat" cases but they dont have time for 12th may case, Missing persons cases, Asghar Khan case, NS's NRO and list goes on and on etc.
N$'s Pardon is really a case? what is the case about that? did someone file any suite in court? asghar khan petition is not only about nawaz sharif, there are several beneficiaries, and there are some "hidden funds" for some of the govt departments, ISI had a political wing (if i'm not wrong credit goes to ppp to disband this section), its job was to broker deals and drive political environment of the country to govt's desired direction. and do you really think there is anything to hear about punjab govt's stay order? the provincial govt was dismissed because of political reasons, and federal govt of ppp failed to sustain the outcry caused by the governor's law, if that case is any worth, its fed govt which has to pursue the stay order and prove that governor's law was and is necessary in punjab. in addition to that, none of these cases are at par the memo case, in which complete country was being sold, nuclear arsenal was being given up and much more, which is one of the most serious case in pakistani's judicial history. all those cases against N$ and other people are also important, they just happen to be on a little lower scale as far as severity is concerned. not only that, SC should proceed the hudaibia mills case also. but i dont know if its good idea to overflow the highest court of country with those so many important cases all at the same time, everyday there will be a new decision or remark, which someone somewhere will find biased. if it will be against N$ they will say its biased, if it will be against MQM they will say its biased, so is the case with PPP. currently they are in the govt, they are the biggest party and they are the biggest fish as well. court should take cases one by one, based on their severity and importance.
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I can reply to all of your points but you missed the main point. MEMOGATE case is only 2-3 months old. Why did SC not take up all these cases before that?
As I said, I m not saying SC is not doing justice but they are doing selective justice and as of right now they are only selecting cases against PPP. They have time for umphteen "tauheen-e-aadalat" cases but they dont have time for 12th may case, Missing persons cases, Asghar Khan case, NS's NRO and list goes on and on etc.
6chora bhai, agree with you on selective justice, but also i believe its very hard to make everyone happy all the time, there should be some selection criteria for the selective justice, IMO being 2-3 months old or 2-3 years old is not the issue, its the severity of national security which is utmost important in this case. rest i agree with you, they need to hear all those cases which you mentioned, but i also believe on keeping a steady pace and doing justice without considering what others may think