what do pakistanis abroad think about a pakistani going out with a guy/girl of whatever other country you’re living in?
this includes Pakistanis from every strata of Pakistan, not talking of any specific class/region. there is every sort of very-closed-minded / closed-minded / open-minded family. what’s the larger perception of this situation?
how many of you are in a bi-racial relationship, or know someone who is in one? what are their issues? what problems do they face? what are the positive aspects of them being together?
My hubby is pakistani and I'm a gori of eupopean descent and while I have to say that both families had misgivings initially, they were all very accepting once they saw how nicely things work for us. Our issues are just about never related to cultural or ethnic background but more about day-to-day things, issues with the boyz - day-to-day types of things that every couple faces no matter what the background.
I'm in one, all of my family are ok with it except my brother.. Mixed couples are pretty common in London nowadays, living down here it's not generally seen as such a big deal as it would be in certain other parts of the country. One of my best friends is Egyptian/Malaysian and more than half the weddings we go to are mixed marriages, all sorts of unusual mixes, Bengali/Turkish, Pakistani/Libyan are two recent ones.. What u don't see nearly enough of tho is desis marrying black Muslims, I guess it's the last 'taboo', pretty sad when u think about it..
There are certain Pakistani communities that are a lot more conservative, it's defo easier in London and surrounding areas of the UK to 'marry out' than in places like Yorkshire or the Midlands where families generally tend to be more traditional..
hooray for Ms Hareem! Thank you for a lovely ending to a poem that would otherwise be nasty!
and aaho...my own boys are being raised Muslim as this is the religion of their father. I am somewhat religion-less personally right now but seeking. And my boys are very nice, good people and nice, good Muslims so my thinking is that the population of Muslims is now bigger. So even a difference in religion between married partners does not necessarily have to be such a big deal.
My hubby is pakistani and I'm a gori of eupopean descent and while I have to say that both families had misgivings initially, they were all very accepting once they saw how nicely things work for us. Our issues are just about never related to cultural or ethnic background but more about day-to-day things, issues with the boyz - day-to-day types of things that every couple faces no matter what the background.
That's very nice Mamaof3 ... i'm happy for you :) ... but i was more interested in the reaction of distant relatives and strangers, and street reactions rather. Is there staring?
there's no racism in islam so all colours are good.
I wish more would think like that. I am in a relationship with a white guy, but of course he doesnt carry a tag on his forehead that he's muslim. and the normal cliche that Caucasians are christians (jews look totally different) cannot be eliminated.
I'm in one, all of my family are ok with it except my brother..
There are certain Pakistani communities that are a lot more conservative, it's defo easier in London and surrounding areas of the UK to 'marry out' than in places like Yorkshire or the Midlands where families generally tend to be more traditional..
I've been hearing a lot of how open england is, and that most of such happenings happen in england.
I hope things work out for you ... but if i may ask, why doesn't your brother agree to it? what's his argument?
If you are black - stay back
If you are brown - stick around
If you are white - you all right
mercenary, i've read many of your posts, which normally lean towards a more open-minded dialogue ... i'd like to more about what you mean by this ...
About marrying other nationalities.. but yes for Muslim to a Muslim.. Though I see many strange situation too
strange situations like?
what's the overall ratio of these relationships in reference to a white man going out with a paki girl to that of a white girl going out with a paki man. is there an unequal reaction to both situations?
That's very nice Mamaof3 ... i'm happy for you :) ... but i was more interested in the reaction of distant relatives and strangers, and street reactions rather. Is there staring?
I wish more would think like that. I am in a relationship with a white guy, but of course he doesnt carry a tag on his forehead that he's muslim. and the normal cliche that Caucasians are christians (jews look totally different) cannot be eliminated.
I've been hearing a lot of how open england is, and that most of such happenings happen in england.
I hope things work out for you ... but if i may ask, why doesn't your brother agree to it? what's his argument?
mercenary, i've read many of your posts, which normally lean towards a more open-minded dialogue ... i'd like to more about what you mean by this ...
strange situations like?
what's the overall ratio of these relationships in reference to a white man going out with a paki girl to that of a white girl marrying a paki man. is there an unequal reaction to both situations?
actually in current time there is unequal reaction that "people" make about it. Though it should be same for paki men.
actually in current time there is unequal reaction that "people" make about it. Though it should be same for paki men.
i really would want to know who these "people" are .... cuz we keep talking about "these people" ... who are they? where do they come from? what make them think the way they think?
My aunt married this Italian Guy. He didn't convert to Islam and there was a big furor about it.
Many people in my family stopped speaking to her. But my mom and my immediate family still talk to her.
The guy is really nice but he is a die hard Roman Catholic and under no circumstance he will change his religion and he was also madly in love with my aunt.
They have been married for over 20 years and are raising their kids with both christian and Muslim beliefs.
aaho, actually, yes we do experience the occasional open-mouthed stare. Especially since I'm a gori and have 2 sons on the autism spectrum - my GOODNESS, you can just imagine what fodder we are for the "grapevine" lol!
But thankfully, my hubby and me dont really give a poop about what other people think or say. We have so many blessings that I cant begin to count them all. And sure, we have the occasional disagreement but there is nothing that we can't face together.
As far as I'm concerned, the thoughts of others just arent important. We know what is good and right for ourselves and our boyz and thats all that matters to us.
aaho, actually, yes we do experience the occasional open-mouthed stare. Especially since I'm a gori and have 2 sons on the autism spectrum - my GOODNESS, you can just imagine what fodder we are for the "grapevine" lol!
But thankfully, my hubby and me dont really give a poop about what other people think or say. We have so many blessings that I cant begin to count them all. And sure, we have the occasional disagreement but there is nothing that we can't face together.
As far as I'm concerned, the thoughts of others just arent important. We know what is good and right for ourselves and our boyz and thats all that matters to us.
I am actually still in the process. I will not convert until I have read and understood the Koran and its very difficult to read with understanding. I will not just "go through the motions" - I want it to be good and clean, with full understanding when I undertake such a responsibility. I've been too pre-occupied with my boys to be able to dedicate the time and concentration as yet but its something that I'll have the ability to dedicate myself to in the days to come...ie., when little guy is in school full time. INshallah.