nana ne nationalization ker ke bera gharak kiya.
amma ne privatization ker ke kamaya.
abba ne maal istasna ke peechay chupaya.
ab naunihaar kya gul khilai ga… dekhain.
brainless bunch of babbling bumbling baboons would continue worshiping the slogan child.
Re: Bilawal to step into electoral politics on Dec 27
nana ne nationalization ker ke bera gharak kiya.
Wrong. His nationalization policy affected tax chor and anti-state businessmen, carrying heavy balls of general dictators, sucking the blood of poor people of Pakistan. Common people were well of and happy in his tenure, never I had seen after his departure. woh jo amirul-mominin jab aaya usne mulk ki poori tarah se rarh laga di, Pakistan is still suffering from his jehadi policies.
Re: Bilawal to step into electoral politics on Dec 27
Almost all economists agree that nationalization was a disaster for Pakistan’s economy. Yes, members of Peoples Party who got lucrative jobs in newly nationalized industries and banks were happy. We can discuss this in another thread though. I can provide you with several studies demonstrating what I said. Just one example: ECONOMIC CAUSES OF POLITICAL CRISIS IN PAKISTAN: THE LANDLORDS VS. THE INDUSTRIALISTS - RASHID - 2007 - The Developing Economies - Wiley Online Library (page 171 zara ghor sey parhain).
Disclaimer: I was not born at the time of Bhutto. Neither I was born 1,400 years ago but I believe in a Book that was revealed at that time.
Re: Bilawal to step into electoral politics on Dec 27
This is propaganda of JI and its hami cronies. I am living example of his tenure and rulers who came after him. I don’t believe the sh!ty lies and nonsense you have posted above. All I know that people were very happy during his rule.
I would prefer 1000 times nationalization policy of ZAB rather than malown khabis mardood Zia-ul-Haq’s capitalist policy or corrupt @$$hole dictator Musharraf and his imported shortcut PM.
You were not born at that time, but like me there are still millions and millions who knew his tenure vs @$$holes after him. You do not know what you are talking about.
Re: Bilawal to step into electoral politics on Dec 27
This is propaganda of JI and its hami cronies. I am living example of his tenure and rulers who came after him. I don't believe the sh!ty lies and nonsense you have posted above. All I know that people were very happy during his rule.
I would prefer 1000 times nationalization policy of ZAB rather than malown khabis mardood Zia-ul-Haq's capitalist policy or corrupt @$$hole dictator Musharraf and his imported shortcut PM.
You were not born at that time, but like me there are still millions and millions who knew his tenure vs @$$holes after him. You do not know what you are talking about.
Yes, facts, truth, research, evidence, waghaira sey jiyalon ka kya ta'aluq? Of course, Jiyalas would prefer ZAB's policy where they get free ride and no work to do. Yes, Zia's period was bad. But does that mean the nationalization, that destroyed investor confidence for decades to come, was good? Just the fact that textile sector was not nationalized (favoring haram khor landlord friends of Bhutto) is enough to tell us that it was done with bad intentions.
I have posted peer review research. If you think this is propaganda of JI, there is no more use trying to reason with you. I can provide much more published research, but I guess that's of no use either.
I like, however, how you demonstrate your mentality through the use of colorful language.
Re: Bilawal to step into electoral politics on Dec 27
Yes, facts, truth, research, evidence, waghaira sey jiyalon ka kya ta'aluq? Of course, Jiyalas would prefer ZAB's policy where they get free ride and no work to do.
I have posted peer review research. If you think this is propaganda of JI, there is no more use trying to reason with you.
I like, however, how you demonstrate your mentality through the use of colorful language.
Again wrong. ZAB is still alive in the hearts of millions and millions. His PPP is still the ruler and popular national party of Pakistan. If ZAB was that bad, he and his party would have been forgotten a long time ago like mardood Zia-ul-Haq and his hami parties.
Re: Bilawal to step into electoral politics on Dec 27
Nationalization was for short-term popularity. Prosperity at that time came mainly from industrialization in Ayub time. We saw the disastrous effects of nationalization in the long term which you are blaming Zia for.These are the facts that economists have documented. But again, facts are not for jiyalas.
Slogans are what people care for. They cannot see the long term impact of Bhutto’s actions out of greed for popularity and power. Again, this is not a thread to discuss nationalization.
Let the baby Bhutto come and bring us democracy as a revenge. The literacy rate in Pakistan is still not good enough to stop him. Enjoy!
Re: Bilawal to step into electoral politics on Dec 27
Nationalization was for short-term popularity. Prosperity at that time came mainly from industrialization in Ayub time. We saw the disastrous effects of nationalization in the long term which you are blaming Zia for. These are the facts that economists have documented. But again, facts are not for jiyalas.
Slogans are what people care for. They cannot see the long term impact of Bhutto's actions out of greed for popularity and power. Again, this is not a thread to discuss nationalization.
Let the baby Bhutto come and bring us democracy as a revenge. The literacy rate in Pakistan is still not good enough to stop him.
*Again wrong. Yahya Khan was the ruler in 1971, he kicked Ayub Khan on gun point . When his 95000 soldiers surrendered and gave East Pakistan to Indian General, when a vast West Pakistan's land was in hands of Indian army, when Indian Air force crippled West Pakistan. All industries and trade was shut or partially operating well before and during the war, you can imagine the economy he got from Yahya Khan. Not only bank-corrupt economy but also the demoralized army and demoralized citizens of West Pakistan, devastated any hope for West Pakistanis to survive. Again you don't know what are you talking about.
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Re: Bilawal to step into electoral politics on Dec 27
*Again wrong. Yahya Khan was the ruler in 1971, he kicked Ayub Khan on gun point . When his 95000 soldiers surrendered and gave East Pakistan to Indian General, when a vast West Pakistan's land was in hands of Indian army, when Indian Air force crippled West Pakistan. All industries and trade was shut or partially operating well before and during the war, you can imagine the economy he got from Yahya Khan. Not only bank-corrupt economy but also the demoralized army and demoralized citizens of West Pakistan, devastated any hope for West Pakistanis to survive. Again you don't know what are you talking about. *
Yahya Khna was there for only 2 years. Economic policies have long term impacts. If the post-war economy was bad, nationalization made it worse. Please provide any respectable study by an economist saying that nationalization had a positive impact on Pakistan's economy. I might not know what I am talking about, but economists do and their publishers too.
If you write in bold red font, it won't convert the fluff into concrete. I am giving you facts with evidence, you are giving me emotional blabber. Thanks, but no thanks. Until you come up with some facts, recorded evidence, and such.......CIAO.
Re: Bilawal to step into electoral politics on Dec 27
This is JI and its cronies propaganda will never vanish as long as JI supporters alive. America gave full aid during fifties and early sixties and economy of Pakistan was stable purely on oxygen given by SAM. As soon that oxygen was disconnected in 1965 war, the economy of Pakistan went down the drain. The final nail on the coffin of economy was hammered when Pakistan lost war with India in 1971. You supposed to be asane person should understand that wars never brought happiness to countries whether you win or lose. The effect on economy is worst particularly for poor countries like Pakistan.
JI and its hamis never blamed army for any evil they did to Pakistan. They always found an easy escape goat the politician from Sindh. Don’t blame Bhutto for the atrocities by these army generals to Pakistan.
Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
**Army Commander-in-Chief, General Ayub Khan. The country experienced exceptional growth until a second war with India took place in 1965 and led to economic downfall and internal instability.
**India–Pakistan war of 1971 - Wikipedia
**For Pakistan it was a complete and humiliating defeat,[SUP][38]](India–Pakistan war of 1971 - Wikipedia)[/SUP] a psychological setback that came from a defeat at the hands of intense rival India.[SUP][26]](India–Pakistan war of 1971 - Wikipedia)[/SUP] Pakistan lost half its population and a significant portion of its economy and suffered setbacks to its geo-political role in South Asia.[SUP][26]](India–Pakistan war of 1971 - Wikipedia)[/SUP][SUP][38]](India–Pakistan war of 1971 - Wikipedia)[/SUP] Pakistan feared that the two-nation theory was disproved and that the Islamic ideology had proved insufficient to keep Bengalis part of Pakistan.[SUP][26]](India–Pakistan war of 1971 - Wikipedia)[/SUP] Also, the Pakistani military suffered further humiliation by having their 90,000 prisoners of war (POWs) released by India only after the negotiation and signing of the Simla Agreement on 2 July 1972.
(People of Pakistan should be grateful to Bhutto who broght these low lives soldiers back to Pakistan, though they deserved punishment for war crimes in former East Pakistan and should never be brought to Pakistan unless they were found not committing any crime)
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Re: Bhutto's Nationalization policy
The worst thing you can do is nationalise businesses. I'd be Ok with specific industries remaining in government hands otherwise a BIG FAT NO.
Re: Bhutto's Nationalization policy
Bhutto through his nationalisation policy set back Pakistan by decades and we are still paying the price of that today. What he should have done was to take the land from big feudal lords and give it to the poor. The Bhutto family owns vast amounts of land itself.
Re: Bhutto's Nationalization policy
Bhutto through his nationalisation policy set back Pakistan by decades and we are still paying the price of that today. What he should have done was to take the land from big feudal lords and give it to the poor. The Bhutto family owns vast amounts of land itself.
It is like saying that pakis suffer because Quaid made them so by dividing India.
Re: Bhutto's Nationalization policy
It is like saying that pakis suffer because Quaid made them so by dividing India.
If you compare the making of Pakistan with nationalisation, then I am concerned about your mental health.
Perhaps you can elaborate on this point for me? Why is making of Pakistan same as nationalisation?
Re: Bhutto's Nationalization policy
Gillani also said that nationalization was a blunder, is he a Jamari as well?
Re: Bhutto's Nationalization policy
If nationalisation was such a good thing for the country why did BB and the current regime not revert to it? The matter of fact is all the departments under the control of the government like railways, PIA, steel mills and WAPDA are running in loss.
Re: Bhutto's Nationalization policy
I have said it many times and will say it again
Bhuttos first screwed their own family and then screwed Pakistan
Re: Bilawal to step into electoral politics on Dec 27
Wrong. His nationalization policy affected tax chor and anti-state businessmen, carrying heavy balls of general dictators, sucking the blood of poor people of Pakistan. Common people were well of and happy in his tenure, never I had seen after his departure. woh jo amirul-mominin jab aaya usne mulk ki poori tarah se rarh laga di, Pakistan is still suffering from his jehadi policies.
Why did he not take away lands of tax chor, anti-state landlords? Because he was one of them so he could not have done that, but it was easier to take over someone else's hard work.... dacoo anyone?
Again wrong. ZAB is still alive in the hearts of millions and millions. His PPP is still the ruler and popular national party of Pakistan. If ZAB was that bad, he and his party would have been forgotten a long time ago like mardood Zia-ul-Haq and his hami parties.
He is alive in millions because people at large love free money, free job with no work required, all you needed was "right" connection.
Re: Bilawal to step into electoral politics on Dec 27
This is JI and its cronies propaganda will never vanish as long as JI supporters alive. *.............. *
Stay on the topic now that we have a separate thread on nationalization. I have asked you several times to produce an independent evidence from an economist saying nationalization helped Pakistan's economy and I would shut up.
If you believe published research in economics is JI propaganda, then no logic can ever help you. Bye.
Re: Bhutto's Nationalization policy
If nationalisation was such a good thing for the country why did BB and the current regime not revert to it? The matter of fact is all the departments under the control of the government like railways, PIA, steel mills and WAPDA are running in loss.
Do you think military is running in profit?