Bhang and Bhangi

[muqawwee123]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

bhangi means sweeper/sweeperess who clean your toilet [especially in old days when we used to have open toilets, qadamche jo hote the gaaoN meN]

Are you sure KKF sweeper got Bhangi word in Urdu? I mean isn’t Urdu for sweeper (cleaning toilets) is Mahtar?

[muqawwee123]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@TLK

My apologies for this explanation in advance.

I think that because making of bhang and dealing with leather was associated with lower caste (and non Muslims) and in Pakistan, the job of cleaning gutters and toilets is reserved for non-Muslims, we started assciateing words like Bhangis and Chamars to people who clean our filth.

BUT TLK if Chamaar is the worker who deal with chamRa (leather) and it was specific for non-Muslims, can we say that all Chamaars were mainly Christians, becuase Hindus might have kept themselves away from this job too.

[TLK]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@muqawwee123

Tasleemaat Izzat Ma’aab Khakrob

Aadab e Arz ke baad guzarish hai kal se aap apni tashreef nahin laiye ga, kiyunke hamen ek Bhnag banane wala Bhangi dastiyaab ho gaya hai

Yaa phir, Hazrat, hamaray bol-o-baraz kee safaa’i ke liye aap kee aamad darkaar hai

[muqawwee123]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@Kinzz

I think they are called Qooli?? ( not quli the loader)

Qooli means?

[muqawwee123]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@TLK

Yaa phir, Hazrat, hamaray bol-o-baraz kee safaa’i ke liye aap kee aamad darkaar hai

tauba tauba.. bol o baraz se ek murakkab lafz zehn main aaya, jis ke waja se Pakistani movies ya to censor ho jati thin ya screen pe phool aa jata tha

[TLK]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@muqawwee123

BUT TLK if Chamaar is the worker who deal with chamRa (leather) and it was specific for non-Muslims, can we say that all Chamaars were mainly Christians, becuase Hindus might have kept themselves away from this job too.

were not they lower caste hindus who used to handle leather? Again my apoligies but after all Barhamin pujari sahab does need his sandals and jooties so someone needs to handle that leather.

[TLK]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@muqawwee123

tauba tauba.. bol o baraz se ek murakkab lafz zehn main aaya, jis ke waja se Pakistani movies ya to censor ho jati thin ya screen pe phool aa jata tha

bosaa?

[muqawwee123]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@TLK

bosaa?

shhh.. kanaar mat kahiye ga… abhi Resham jawan nahin hui

[KKF]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@muqawwee123

Are you sure KKF sweeper got Bhangi word in Urdu? I mean isn’t Urdu for sweeper (cleaning toilets) is Mahtar?

mahtar means aalaa o urfa people aur yes unko ulloo banaane ke liye mahtar kahte the magar Bhangii Hindustani emN aam hai…maiN Khud bachpan men kahtaa thaa k bhangan/bhangi aayaa hai…it’s a very common term.

[Kinzz]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@muqawwee123

Qooli means?

Qooli is bhangi.

[muqawwee123]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

mahtar means aalaa o urfa people aur yes unko ulloo banaane ke liye mahtar kahte the magar Bhangii Hindustani emN aam hai…maiN Khud bachpan men kahtaa thaa k bhangan/bhangi aayaa hai…it’s a very common term.

Khair Mahtarani (mehtar ki zoja) to phir bhi kafi qabil e fakhar lagta hai.

[muqawwee123]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@Kinzz

Qooli is bhangi.

which language? Urdu? never heard or read that.

[TLK]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@muqawwee123

shhh.. kanaar mat kahiye ga… abhi Resham jawan nahin hui

but can I say ‘seenay ke zer-o-bum’ .. . wow our writers used to talked about heroin’s bum, so openly

[Kinzz]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

CleanlinEss is half emaan then why bhangi/Qooli are known as lowest class people?

[KKF]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@muqawwee123

Khair Mahtarani (mehtar ki zoja) to phir bhi kafi qabil e fakhar lagta hai.

yes…isii liye to un se gande kaam karvaane ke liye unko ‘chaRaa dete the’ mahtar kah kar…vaise, mehtar ek zaat bhii hotii hai musalmaanoN meN…[last name as Mehtar] … ek shaa’ir kaa maiN ne deevaan paRhaa thaa jiskaa naam thaa** Shamim Ahmad Mahtar.**

[muqawwee123]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@TLK

but can I say ‘seenay ke zer-o-bum’ .. . wow our writers used to talked about heroin’s bum, so openly

That zer-o-bum remained quite confusing for me. KKF please explain it aala Urdu, so that only few of us can understand

[Kinzz]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@muqawwee123

which language? Urdu? never heard or read that.

yes I think it’s in Urdu,in karachi in our area they were called Qooli.

[Kinzz]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

yes…isii liye to un se gande kaam karvaane ke liye unko ‘chaRaa dete the’ mahtar kah kar…vaise, mehtar ek zaat bhii hotii hai musalmaanoN meN…[last name as Mehtar] … ek shaa’ir kaa maiN ne deevaan paRhaa thaa jiskaa naam thaa** Shamim Ahmad Mahtar.**

Is thread main bhi shair

[muqawwee123]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@Kinzz

CleanlinEss is half emaan then why bhangi/Qooli are knows as lowest class people?

Its part of our hypocrite society, where a person starts his day by reciting ‘Sura e Muzammil’ in office and in evening goes to his home full of looted / bribe money. On his home building, the most prominently written words would be ‘Haza min fazl e Rabbi’

[KKF]

Re: Bhang and Bhangi

@Kinzz

Is thread main bhi shair

Kinzz…tum se ab maiN she’rii zabaan meN hii baat karuuNgaa aise