Beware Pashtunistan

Can Pashtunistan emerge as an independent state if the Taleban and Pashtun nationalism merge? In spite of being religiously more conservative than other nations of this region, the overwhelming majority of Pashtuns never endorsed the Taleban’s fundamentalist version of Islam. But the way the army is handling the whole issue of islamic terrorism in NWFP, the crisis is bound to worsen-and army’s unquenchable thirst for power has put the very existence of Pakistan at stake.

Beware Pashtunistan
Benazir Bhutto’s narrow escape from assassination recently was a grim reminder she’ll be lucky to get through the coming election alive. Even if she does, the vote may prove a charade, and Bhutto could end up providing civilian camouflage for continued military rule—provoking unrest and strengthening separatist forces in this deeply divided country.

       The January parliamentary race, like most Pakistani elections under military rule, will likely be rigged by the Army and intelligence agencies. EU observers called the 2002 presidential election "deeply flawed," and during the five decades I've covered Pakistan, I've witnessed repeated cases of intimidation of opposition figures. **The country's Election Commission, appointed by President Pervez Musharraf, has already made an outlandish attempt to cook the books this year. In 2002, 71.8 million voters registered to vote. With the population growing at 2.7 percent a year and a voting age of 18, the number should have increased to about 82 million this time. Yet when the electoral lists were announced five months ago, they included just 55 million, and Bhutto alleges many of the "lost" voters were women, her strongest supporters. The maneuver was ultimately blocked by a court order and U.S. pressure, and last week the commission published new lists including 80 million Pakistanis. But further shenanigans seem likely; a Pakistani daily, Dawn, has reported on tricks already underway including the use of "ghost polling booths" to misdirect voters.**


       The likely result will be that Bhutto gets just enough Assembly seats to become prime minister—but not enough to enforce the meaningful power-sharing deal that Musharraf promised. That will mean continued military rule, perpetuating the power of key Islamist sympathizers in the government whom Bhutto would like to remove and fanning discontent among ethnic minorities, including Pashtuns, in the borderlands where the Taliban holds sway.

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       **The Taliban, a primarily Pashtun group, exploits secessionist sentiment among the 41 million Pashtuns who live on both sides of the Afghan-Pakistani frontier. The Pashtuns (as well as Pakistan's other ethnic minorities, the Baluchis and Sindhis) have long resisted domination by Pakistan's Punjabis, who control the armed forces. U.S. and Pakistani airstrikes against the Taliban and jihadist groups in Pashtun areas have caused large-scale civilian casualties, intensifying resentment. And Musharraf's war against Islamic extremists has further inflamed tensions; many of the 300 seminary students killed in the July assault on the Red Mosque, a jihadist stronghold in Islamabad, were Pashtun girls. In September, the father of one of them—an officer in an elite commando unit—blew himself up in a military mess hall, killing 19, as he shouted Pashtun nationalist slogans.**


       **All this has raised the specter that a breakaway "Pashtunistan" will emerge under Islamist leadership. Pakistan's ambassador to the United States, retired Maj. Gen. Mahmud Ali Durrani—himself a Pashtun—warned of this last spring: "I hope the Taliban and Pashtun nationalism don't merge. If that happens, we've had it, and we're on the verge of that."**


       Pakistan's ethnic minorities hope that if Bhutto, a Sindhi, gets a strong majority in Parliament, she'll support the provincial autonomy envisaged in the country's 1973 Constitution, which was adopted during the presidency of her father, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, but later shelved by military rulers.

The United States should go all-out to encourage a free election now. It should press Musharraf, in the run-up to the vote, to hand over power to a genuinely neutral caretaker government formed in consultation with opposition parties and headed by an independent figure like Supreme Court Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry. To make this happen, Washington should threaten to cut off not only its $1.5 billion congressionally mandated military aid program to Pakistan but also the direct U.S. subsidies paid to Pakistan’s armed forces, which started in 2001 and will reach $7.5 billion next year. These subsidies, described as reimbursement for counterterrorism operations, have flowed freely in recent years regardless of the effectiveness of Pakistan’s antiterror operations. Tying them to real progress in governance would get Musharraf’s attention; indeed, it’s the only way to ensure his cooperation.

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Who cares, let them have their cake and eat it too... Pashtunistan zindabad.

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Dude! people who say pashtunistan usually hate taliban.

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Yes as soon as the Talibanic menace is wide spread among Pashtoonistan, barber shops are bombed, video stores are looted, and girls schools are burned, there will be a Pashtoonistan. For details, see the map.

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Yay, the Kalash can be killed off again just like they were under Abdur Rahman Khan in the 1890's.

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Unlikely for many reasons including:
1. Ethnic Pashtun nationalists are usually strictly opposed to racial fanatics like the Taliban
2. Ethnic minorties exist in significant numbers in NWFP, while Pashtuns exist in significant numbers outside of NWFP in Pakistan making any such movement more a threat than reality - its simply not practical
All that aside (and I've debated this issue on this website in the distant past)
All signs point towards Pakistan being a failed state due to this little tyrant that hs been sitting on our shoulders for the last ~10 years. Worse things can happen now than Pashtunistan.

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Oh don’t worry, these Ethnic Pashtun nationalists will hug and kiss Kandhari Taliban and then make the Pashtunistan where it belongs. Just see the map.

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It seems as is nationalism has changed and the left wing movement almost dead but replaced with a strong and deadly right-wing movement. Call them what you want but Swat and Waziristan are out of Government control so these right-wingers have achieved what the left wingers failed provincial autonomy.

Some people argue that the ISI is almost aiding these militants taking over parts of NWFP and FATA. Some people even argue the Americans have a hand in it. What group will gain from all this - its very hard to see. NWFP has become plagued by violence and many locals are pointing their fingers at the army for supporting these groups or doing nothing. A friend from Swat lambasted the armyfor its lack of action as these Militants, who he described as foreign, took over. He accused the army of sitting there gutless as the clout of Maullanah Azab-ullah spread. Yesterday they took Kalam - this is part of the Kohistani belt and an area which depends very heavily on tourism. If the problem is not solved there will be many unhappy people in Swat as their incomes will have vanished. These frustrated people will look back to the days of the Wali, when Swat was more developed and more socially porgressive than it is now. Swat has always been a loyal part of Pakistan and its people have never really been big fans of the ANP.

These militants have a lot of support from shadowy secret services and I wont be surprised if the Americans/Indians are involved with them aiming to slowly dismember Pakistan or even wipe out its Nukes. One could bomb and try subjugate these militants but that failed last time and end result - the appear to have multiplied.

The Taliban were never really interested in the Pashtunistan issue I guess thats why Pakistan supported/created them.

It is an almost civil war and the Government just let it happen. It will eventually spread - although the Balochies and Sindhis wil probably resist it best.

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The issue is no longer that comical - whats going on is very sinister. Pashtuns/NWFP was a happy part of Pakistan 12 months ago. Whatever is going on is alienating the general public and they are fast losing their faith in Pakistan.

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Oh calm down Mr. Here are some factoid about your Talibanic achievements.

There are seven tribal agencies with 3.5 million FATAns living there. This is less than half the population of Lahore.

Literacy rate there is hardly 10%. With Taliban blowing up girls schools, that surely will go down furhter.

Anyways out of seven agencies, three are suffering from Talibanic disease. Waziris needed some anti-Talib "capsules" delivered via F-16.

After that Eid gift, Taliban ran from there with their tales in you know where.

Now the situation is a bit scary in Swat area. Just wait for few months and it should be OK for another few years.

Talibanic disease is like chronic illness. You just need to give some "medicine" to these infected areas every few years.

BTW I agree that Pashtunistan is ripe for making. Just see the map in this thread.

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If you mean "Pashtun area" of Swat and Wazirastan, then you are way off the mark. Swat has been in constant Jihadi turmoil since 80s, and Wazirastan got infected with Talibanic bubonic disease for the last 6 seven years.

So Pashtunistan zaroor banay gaa. Just see the map. And anyone wanting to live in Pashtunistan is more than welcome to go live in that junnat. Again see the map.

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Swat had a minor spell in the mid 90's and it was al fogotten about until the last year. Sat had no records of it before the mid 90's too. I visited Swat last year and the locals are very tolerant of more liberal Pakistanis coming from fruther south.

Waziristan would have been cured had moderate and great Musharaf wanted to take appropriate action back in 2001. He decided to let the area fester. Wheter this turmoil suits him or his agenda only time will tell.

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The tribals in Waziristan are really scaed they "only" captured 300 soldiers. What planet are you living on? The army has lost control and any attempt to take control will knock them 5000 km east of Bannu.
It would take a whole lot more than F-16's to subde these people - the way things are goin there wont be no military t fly these f-16's.

These Talibans have only achieved one thing - they have made one of the top 10 mightiest armies and nuclear power shudder. This is one of the worst times for Pakistan indeed. Big Ben's future actions will aggravate these more.

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Well November 1995 clashes, then 2001 misadventure, and on an on. If somebody forgets all that, then may be it is time to order more "badams" (almonds are supposed to help one's memory).

As I said, we want Pashtunistan to be made and Kandhar its capital. Then anyone in love with Pashtunistan can go live there in the Islamic Jannat of Pashtunistan.

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No need to get racist old man.

Are you referring to TSNM’s activities in 1990s, then read the article below. Pakistani Government DID acquiesce to the demand of Sharia law. But where is the suicide bombings, dismantling of the FC, holding of soldiers?

**It first came into prominence in November 1994 when it led an armed uprising in support of Sharia in the Malakand division of NWFP. The outfit’s call to arms reportedly drew large numbers of experienced Afghan Mujahideen from the nearby Peshawar and Bajaur areas. Approximately 40 persons, including 12 security force personnel, were killed in a week of fighting before the Government was able to reestablish its writ. The Frontier Corps was deployed to regain control of the Saidu Sharif airport, roads, police stations and judicial courts in the area. Police fired tear gas on December 4, 1994, to halt a march by approximately 10,000 members of the TNSM who were seeking the release of 85 colleagues who had been arrested during the past month’s protests.

On June 19, 1995, the TNSM Chief and 20 of his senior followers were arrested following a clash with the security forces. At least 26 persons were injured when hundreds of TNSM cadres occupied Government offices in the Swat district. They were demanding the implementation of an agreement reached with the Government in 1994 to enforce Sharia in Malakand. Further, on September 6, 1998, the TNSM threatened to attack American property and also abduct American citizens in Pakistan unless the USA apologised to the Muslim world for the August 1998 missile strikes in Afghanistan. **

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2001 - which misadventure?

so 1995 and 2001 - 2 incidents make it a full 20 years?

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Read what your buddy is posting.

TNSM aka Talib disease has been going on for the last 20 odd years. They don't die, they just go away to eat halwa and come back to make trouble again and again. This is just tribal nature that runs contrary to civilized behavior.

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This thread has the "racist" (based on Pashtun race) title and it was started by a racist guy. Put the blame where it is due.

We are sick and tired of pathetic Afghan-lefties talk on a on about Pashtunistan. The only way to $hut them up is to give them their own medicine.

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Are you kidding me? The mid 90s clash is nothing compared to the disturbances in Karachi or the sectarianism in Punjab during the same decade. So it was an ISOLATED incident.

Did you not read what I said: Pakistan acquiesced to the TSNM demands even back then. Where was the outrage back then? I am sorry, the word terrorism was not en vogue back then.

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First off I do not believe in Pakhtunistan separate from Pakistan. Renaming the province and creating a soft border is different. I don't know about the guy starting the thread or his politics.

Secondly, It is racist because you are using badam as code for akhrots.

Thirdly, Pakistan supported the Taliban precisely because they placed religion over nationalism.

Let me try to give you some perspective, if a member of your family loses his way and becomes an extremist. would you put a bullet in his head? I wouldn't. I feel the same way about PAKISTANIs regardless of their beliefs.