Better Muslim VS Better Human Being?

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@USResident

Though you have shot a hole through the argument it doesn’t get full credit. The opener of the thread asked to make a choice between the two. So it becomes a dogmatic question as well not just behavioral. For a muslim salvation is not just linked to humane behavior but also certain belief and doctrines.

The quest to become a better muslim includes ones attempt to strive for being a better human being inherently. Whereas one striving to be a good human being does not necessarily attach to a doctrine or belief.

Being a better human being is devoid of belief but rather based on practice of humane behavior for most part. A person of absolute malicious intent can also prove to be a good human being by simply engaging in humane activities.

Again the questioners intentions are unknown.

why be so focused on the intentions of the OP, why not just share your thoughts on the comparison and not investigate an agenda?

i dont really think its necessarily a dogmatic question, nor do you have to make it a question of becoming an unbeliever. like I said if you wished to remain within the framework of Islam you could easily frame it as in your quest to be a good Muslim do huqooq ullah have priority or huqooq ul ibad? or excelling in devotion to religion more important than devotion to humanity? what is worse, if you were remiss in huqooq ullah or huqooq ulibad?

we cannot really say that all of those that claim to be or are religious/Muslim/Islamic figures have always been great humanitarians, and there are many Muslim humanitarians who are not really religious/Islamic figures/scholars etc. so there is clearly in practice a lifestyle choice. What do you respect more between the two, great religious/scholarly achievements/works that have their affect principally in the afterlife or towards Allah or great humanitarian ones?