Betrayal Of Sikhs In The Hindu Empire ...

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I am not a fan of madrassas,…As compare to RSS and VHP and other extremists group,..in India,..they are like saints,…

Babri Masjid was demolished,..that there used to temple,…right,..but later on it was proved that ,…there was no temple there,..no you tell me,..why this kind a hate aganist Muslims,…also,..read the following stuff as follows:

** APPENDIX B: PAMPHLET CALLING FOR ECONOMIC BOYCOTT OF MUSLIMS **

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2002/india/blubvspm.gif

(translated from Gujarati, from the NGO SAHMAT’s report)328
VISHWA HINDU PARISHAD (Raanip)

SATYAM SHIVAM SUNDARAM
JAI SHRI RAM

WAKE UP! ARISE! THINK! ENFORCE!

SAVE THE COUNTRY! SAVE THE RELIGION!

Economic boycott is the only solution! The anti-national elements use the money earned from the Hindus to destroy us! They buy arms! They molest our sisters and daughters! The way to break the back-bone of these elements is: An economic non-cooperation movement.

Let us resolve -

  1. From now on I will not buy anything from a Muslim shopkeeper!

  2. I will not sell anything from my shop to such elements!

  3. Neither shall I use the hotels of these anti-nationals, nor their garages!

  4. I shall give my vehicles only to Hindu garages! From a needle to gold, I shall not buy anything made by Muslims, neither shall we sell them things made by us!

  5. Boycott wholeheartedly films in which Muslim hero-heroines act! Throw out films produced by these anti-nationals!

  6. Never work in offices of Muslims! Do not hire them!

  7. Do not let them buy offices in our business premises, nor sell or hire out houses to them in our housing societies, colonies or communities.

  8. I shall certainly vote, but only for him who will protect the Hindu nation.

  9. I shall be alert to ensure that our sisters-daughters do not fall into the `love-trap’ of Muslim boys at school-college-workplace.

  10. I shall not receive any education or training from a Muslim teacher.

Such a strict economic boycott will throttle these elements! It will break their back-bone! Then it will be difficult for them to live in any comer of this country. Friends, begin this economic boycott from today! Then no Muslim will raise his head before us! Did you read this leaflet? Then make ten photocopies of it, and distribute it to our brothers. The curse of Hanumanji be on him who does not implement this, and distribute it to others! The curse of Ramchandraji also be on him! Jai Shriram!

A true Hindu patriot.

[328](http://www.hrw.org/reports/2002/india/India0402-10.htm#P1294_239626) Bose, "Ethnic Cleansing in Ahmedabad"; and Malekar, "Silence of the Lambs," *The Week.*
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Tariq, all i see is you posting the same article and links multiple times......what is the value of this thread?

You still haven't properly explained to me how a Pakistani (yourself) has the gumption to discuss the "genocides" of other countries after Pakistan engaged in one of the largest and most violent/brutal massacres in world history just 30 yrs ago....bringing so much shame to its reputation, and continues to have one of the worst human rights records in the world.

perhaps the holier-than-thou criticism of India (or whoever else) about these issues would make more sense if you were from Switzerland or some such country....but you are a Pakistani!! I just don't understand what goes through your head when you make threads like this.

Ye kia chakar hay :hmmm:
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because muslims dont believe that we will also go to heaven..:D . jokingly..
No tariq.. Some of Indian muslims are also fundamentalist. There has to be two hands to clap. Riots are btween two groups.. and here the hindu fundamentalism being larger is more potent. But ther are places where Muslims are in majority and they have the upper hand. **
**I dont know the history of Babri Masjid.. but many hindus especially in north India feel that its the birth place of Ram and the temple was there..
If the muslims had given a proper response and accomodating their interest then all this bs would not have happened. Neither did their self respect allowed it to happen or neither did the fundamental hindus as well. BJP utilized such an anger to the maximum and with the decline of Congress came to power.. but they too shelved the Ram mandir long back.. and now they as well as the Muslim board are reconcilled to have the mandir and mosque side by side.
It was to garner votes..

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Nikhil.. i hope he is discussing it in the right spirit..:rolleyes: or is he..:confused:

ChorD doOo ANchaal!!!
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If you would have read my response then,.you would have known,…what I said,…But in your case ignorance is a blessing,..then I can’t help you,..

Any link which has something to do with my discussion I always post it,..get it over it,…I know truth hurts you guyz,..but I can’t help you,…

What pakistan did,…they must be ashamed of themselves,…same goes for India too,…if you know what I mean by that,…:eek:

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I think,..everone who visits this site,..knows by now,.who is dancing around,…in my case,..I am discussing it seriously,…

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Vineshvk,

So the conclusion of your discussion is,..that its ok,..to keep killing muslims by RSS,..VHP or other extremists groups,…and use any justification for it,…

Babri Masjid,..issue was resolved as follows:

After completing a five-month excavation, government archeologists say they have found no evidence of an ancient Hindu temple under the ruins of a 16th century mosque in the northern Indian town of Ayodhya.–"**No Hindu Temple Found Under Ruins of Mosque](http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/384752441.html?did=384752441&FMT=ABS&FMTS=FT&desc=Religion%3B+IN+BRIEF)," Times Wire Reports, August 16, 2003] **

now what happening ,…you seems to be siding with extremists now,..you are not giving me straight answer,.. to my post about,…

**APPENDIX B: PAMPHLET CALLING FOR ECONOMIC BOYCOTT OF MUSLIMS **

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2002/india/blubvspm.gif

what is that,..???Why Human Right Watch group is giving out proof too,…???

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:smack2: forget is tariq..if u believe that it is India.. then i can show thousands of pamphlet from cristian and muslims people which shows how one should convert these ignorent pagen religious guys..:D. And that is also freely available in the web if u want to search..

bye good night..

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Good night,..:slight_smile:

BTW,…Good defence,…I think,..I have brought up so many issue and sites,..to make my point and let GS members and others,..figure out,..the truth,…Doesn’t matter to me,.if its india or any other ABCD country or group,…:slight_smile:

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what pakistan do in this matter raise it un or just kashmir is core problem?

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There is a saying,.." If your enemy is committing political suicide,.as India is doing to its minorities,..then just relax and wait "..one day this Volcano will explode
with devestating results,…:),.You remember **USSR,..**right ?

Same mentality here,..everyone can see the parallels,..lets wait for history to repeat itself again…:eek:

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you lost your bengal our bengalis are with us. you are one ethnic show.

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I wish all the best to bengladesh,..being free independant and muslim country,..Pakistan screwed up,..and paid the price,..

BTW,…what do you think of India,..:eek:
** THE LAND OF MILK AND HONEY,..**:rotfl:

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in future pakistan will import food items from india .

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Actually,..both Pakistan and India,..import and export food items to each other…before they used third country in between,..like Hong Kong,…or thailand,..now its direct,..which is a good sign,..and cheap too,..specially by road,..they can transport it back and forth.

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I did my best but could not understand the logic. out of 8 % in 1950, by 2000 more than half had fled, because they were being treated very nicely.

I accept all allegations that India is bullyibng country. But somehow never minorities have migrated. Christiand are increasing by conversion, and Muslims by birth rate…how come that they find India a represive country.

during Khalistan days Sikhs never migrated from Punjab…from Kashmir Muslims have not migrated.

Shall I tell Tariq that during Bangladesh problem Bengalis fled, from afghanistan Muslims fled, from Iraq Kurds fled…

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Vineshvk, I do not understand what you are justifying. Do you have any proof if Modi was guilty for Gujrat riots?
If Acharyua Dharmendra says something, what is wrong…he is just competing the political sermons of Friday prayers?
Why you feel guilty for Babri…are you planning to build a temple in Iraq or Iran?

I am a Hindu and I feel shame for what Hindus did at Gujarat. Can you show me a single Muslim who accepts the guilt for all around killings since centuries till Godhra?
I challenge that you can never find such a Muslim.

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What happened in Godhra,…??? who is responsible,…???
About babri Masjid,… read this,…

After completing a five-month excavation, government archeologists say they have found no evidence of an ancient Hindu temple under the ruins of a 16th century mosque in the northern Indian town of Ayodhya.–"**No Hindu Temple Found Under Ruins of Mosque](http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/384752441.html?did=384752441&FMT=ABS&FMTS=FT&desc=Religion%3B+IN+BRIEF)," Times Wire Reports, August 16, 2003] **

now what happening ,…you seems to be siding with extremists now,..you are not giving me straight answer,..you guyz fabricated the problem,…about Mandir being in that place,..but then turns out to be the opposite,…:eek:

I like the way you are being exposed,…now,..

BTW,…India is making believe the world that its,..Secular and democratic country,…which is quite on the contrary now,…:slight_smile:

Pakistan is an ideological country,..created in the name of religion,..just like Isreal,..pakistan never boast like you guyz,..

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Just keep in mind,..I am not defending Pakistan here,…I don’t agree with them 100%,…

Again,.I must point out to you,…here is,..that difference between India and Pakistan is,…One( Pakistan) is Ideological country,…the other ( India) is secular country,…

Pakistan had to change its laws as per islamic country,.if any minority doesn’t like those laws,…they can move out,..simple is that,…

But still we are having around 3.5 % minorities in pakistan,…who can enjoy full freedom and can have their own elected members,..as they did,…no body bothers them…

We are not champion here,..neither we ever boasted about it…But India,..**The Land of Milk and Honey **is too busy trying to make believe the world,..that it is secular country,..
No wonder MODI was denied US visa,…because of being involved in genocide of muslims in Gujrat,…

You guyz are keeping a good check and balance,…as Muslims are being increased by birth rate,…:eek: Now this explains,…why RSS and VHP crying so loud,…:rotfl:

CHRISTIANS :
Goto this site and read it,..that how much truth is there…

http://www.hrw.org/press/1999/sep/christians.htm

**“Christians are the new scapegoat in India’s political battles. Without immediate and decisive action by the government, communal tensions will continue to be exploited for political and economic ends.” **

During 1971 war,…begladeshis were leaving as refugees to India by millions,..remember ,..

In Afghanistan,…yes,..they fled to Pakistan,..Iran,..like in millions,…check your facts again,…Pakistan has still like 1.5 million afghan living in Pakistan,..reduced from 3.5 Million…sameway Iran,..has still those refugees,..who haven’t come back to afghanistan yet,…:rolleyes:

Kurds in Iraq,…they never bowed to Saddam,..even though they were killed by hunred thousands,..they always had their own way to live ,..even though they took refuge in Turkey too…turkey still has a kurd problem too,..

Kashmiris,…in Indian-controlled Kashmir,..when you have 700000 Barbarian Army,..against 4 Million or so people,..how they can move ,..you tell me,..:rolleyes:

The highest troop concentration in the world,…:slight_smile:

Khalistan,…You tell me,..where those sikhs would have gone,..:rolleyes:

At Last,…can you enlighten us all here,…being 4 castes in India,…which scale those Chrsitians,..muslims,…or other minorities are,..???

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http://www.hvk.org/articles/1103/52.html

A demolished temple underneath Babri structure

Author: Dr. R. Nagaswamy
Publication: Organiser
Date: November 2, 2003
Under the orders of the Allahabad High Court, the excavation at the disputed site of Ayodhya to ascertain whether ther was any temple structure in the Babri structure area. The report has since been opened and the contents revealed (The HINDU, August 25, 2003). According to the report, a massive structure of 10th century, of stone and brick lies buried beneath the site in addition to a carved sculpture and motifs. A large number of pillar bases were found in the excavation conducted under the supervision of the Special Officer appointed by the court. The ASI in its first part of the report has expressed its opinion and the second carries technical data like drawings, sketches, etc.