best place for a pakistani? UK or USA

[Mr_Fraudia]

Re: best place for a pakistani? UK or USA

@amana

My dh’s first name is Muhammad, and my son’s name is Ahmed, and neither have ever been harrassed or detained while travelling. My hubs travels more than twice a month for business, and my son goes with him frequently in the summer and during holidays. I think some people like to exagerrate just a tad.

appears so, I have not had any major issues at all, aside from dealing with some jackasses around oct 2001, the times that they have to run my name through, it takes them 5 minutes max.

[sara_zzz]

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@Madhanee

Only rejects go to Canadia. Canada is like generic cola. Brand name baby, brand name. Anyway, most Pakis in Canada want to come to the US. Poor people. After 911, the illegal Pakis went to Canada, as a second choice.

hahah. exactly
AMERICA ROCKS!!

[AvgAmericanGirl]

Re: best place for a pakistani? UK or USA

Best place for a pakistani or anyone....

Is the place where you feel most happy.

Hopefully surrounded by friends that adore you.

[WitchDr]

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@LuxuryItem

Sou 161,

1. Be prepared to be finger printed and mug shot at the airport.

2. If your name has common Islamic name or names (first, middle, or last), congratulations! You have made the TSA’s No-fly/Watch List. You’ll be hassled at all US airports for domestic travel.

International travel will be another nightmare. If you are travelling to the US from the UK (this is after you have established your immigrant status in the US, and bullet item 1 applies to you), be prepared to be interviewed by the Special Branch (if you are a US citizen). Once you arrive in the US, be prepared to be whisked by the US Customs to the interview room for more ‘talk’. This is what happens to the US citizens who are muslims and have travelled back from the UK. They can read any/all documents in your possession under the Patriot Act. They can ask for your credit cards, banks cards or anything else in your wallet. Sweet isn’t it?

3. Patriotc Act deprives of any civil liberites unless you were a ‘born’ American. I love the bumper sticker: Born American, Born a Patriot. I support the Patriot Act.
   Meaning? Screw you immigrants.

More later.

I think you are taking it a little too far. Last year, I extensively travelled inside the US mainly between LA, Houston, Chicago and Lafayette. On neither of the domestic flights I was harassed for any reason, even though my picture ID was my Pakistani passport. Yes! I had to take off my shoes while clearing the security, but other Americans were doing it as well.
Arriving into US is a bit of a nightmare. When I arrived via Chicago, it was terrible and the immigration staff was impolite and inconsiderate. However, arriving via LA and Houston was OK. For sure it takes longer to get through the immigration as you have to do the NSEER registration but if you understand their point of view, it is justified.
I was once stopped near Combes county for over-speeding and I did not have my passport with me at that time (I forgot it in my hotel room!!). The sherif was a real nice guy but he had to hand me over to the Border Protection and Security police. Over there they confirmed my identity and released me. The Americans there were really nice but the Mexican-Americans were not.
If I would have to relate with either the Pakistan decent Americans or the Pakistan decent Brits, I would surely go for the former. The Brit Pakis have runined the name of Pakistan outside Pakistan. It was horrible to see some of these young boys drinking from glass bottles and then breaking them in the children playground, in an area mainly inhabited by Pakis.
As far as the question goes for me: The best place for a Pakistani is Pakistan!! Make it better.

[TaraLee]

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yeah US you wont "lose your roots" if you goto the right cities...